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Message 46536 - Posted: 27 Mar 2022, 6:02:54 UTC

the queue seems to run dry - only 2 unsent tasks left at this moment :-(
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Message 46621 - Posted: 13 Apr 2022, 10:11:26 UTC - in response to Message 46536.  
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CMS have no new tasks, because of WM-Agent update,
Atlas show 3k new Tasks, but Boinc in Windows say, NNT for Atlas.
app_config was missing, sorry!
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Message 47187 - Posted: 27 Aug 2022, 7:05:23 UTC - in response to Message 46621.  

The Atlas-queue show only 2 new Tasks atm!
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Message 47191 - Posted: 27 Aug 2022, 8:08:49 UTC

I believe that the backend services make WU on demand so a low amount in the queue is conceptually fine
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Message 47192 - Posted: 27 Aug 2022, 8:46:25 UTC - in response to Message 47191.  

In work from 32 Atlas-Tasks to only 20 in the last hours for Threadripper.
There must be something wrong with downloading tasks.
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Message 47600 - Posted: 23 Dec 2022, 3:21:18 UTC - in response to Message 47187.  

The Atlas-queue show only 2 new Tasks atm!
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Message 47601 - Posted: 23 Dec 2022, 11:10:01 UTC - in response to Message 47600.  

The Atlas-queue show only 2 new Tasks atm!
X-max break ?
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Message 47727 - Posted: 25 Jan 2023, 9:49:08 UTC - in response to Message 47600.  

The Atlas-queue show only 2 new Tasks atm!
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Message 47728 - Posted: 25 Jan 2023, 15:39:11 UTC

No more Atlas-Tasks ?


Supporting BOINC, a great concept !
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Message 47729 - Posted: 25 Jan 2023, 16:28:39 UTC - in response to Message 47728.  

https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=5935
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Message 47730 - Posted: 25 Jan 2023, 16:44:23 UTC - in response to Message 47729.  

https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=5935
would have been nice if a pertinent information would have been posted here in this thread, too
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Message 47731 - Posted: 25 Jan 2023, 18:58:43 UTC

The tasks that we crunch here are not results produced by LHC but simulations. So we are not depending on LHC running or not.
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Message 47732 - Posted: 25 Jan 2023, 23:56:55 UTC - in response to Message 47731.  

The tasks that we crunch here are not results produced by LHC but simulations. So we are not depending on LHC running or not.

Be that as it may, I rather suspect what we crunch here is based on experimental reality. Otherwise, what is the point to any of it?
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Message 47733 - Posted: 26 Jan 2023, 3:10:48 UTC - in response to Message 47732.  

The tasks that we crunch here are not results produced by LHC but simulations. So we are not depending on LHC running or not.

Be that as it may, I rather suspect what we crunch here is based on experimental reality. Otherwise, what is the point to any of it?


Simulations test the theory, which is then confirmed with reality. If reality does not match theory, then the theory is revised. So one can run simulations whether or not an experiment happens to be running at the same time.
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Message 47831 - Posted: 10 Mar 2023, 15:26:54 UTC

We may run out of ATLAS tasks by the end of today, but we should have some more submitted next week.
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Message 47832 - Posted: 10 Mar 2023, 15:47:19 UTC - in response to Message 47831.  

Nice timing.
Had a sudden power outage (<<1s) 15 min ago that crashed the crunchers and forced the router to reboot.
Will use the weekend to check the systems and do some postponed upgrades.

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Message 47836 - Posted: 11 Mar 2023, 21:55:51 UTC - in response to Message 47733.  

The tasks that we crunch here are not results produced by LHC but simulations. So we are not depending on LHC running or not.

Be that as it may, I rather suspect what we crunch here is based on experimental reality. Otherwise, what is the point to any of it?


Simulations test the theory, which is then confirmed with reality. If reality does not match theory, then the theory is revised. So one can run simulations whether or not an experiment happens to be running at the same time.

Where do you think the raw experimental data is being crunched, if not (at least in part) on our computers?
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Message 47837 - Posted: 11 Mar 2023, 22:14:15 UTC - in response to Message 47836.  

The tasks that we crunch here are not results produced by LHC but simulations. So we are not depending on LHC running or not.

Be that as it may, I rather suspect what we crunch here is based on experimental reality. Otherwise, what is the point to any of it?


Simulations test the theory, which is then confirmed with reality. If reality does not match theory, then the theory is revised. So one can run simulations whether or not an experiment happens to be running at the same time.

Where do you think the raw experimental data is being crunched, if not (at least in part) on our computers?

Check the lower graph here: https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/atlas_job.php My guess is that these are the huge computing grids that are doing the crunching of actual data. They also do simulations but not on Boinc platform.
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Message 47847 - Posted: 13 Mar 2023, 15:15:41 UTC - in response to Message 47837.  

The tasks that we crunch here are not results produced by LHC but simulations. So we are not depending on LHC running or not.

Be that as it may, I rather suspect what we crunch here is based on experimental reality. Otherwise, what is the point to any of it?


Simulations test the theory, which is then confirmed with reality. If reality does not match theory, then the theory is revised. So one can run simulations whether or not an experiment happens to be running at the same time.

Where do you think the raw experimental data is being crunched, if not (at least in part) on our computers?

Check the lower graph here: https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/atlas_job.php My guess is that these are the huge computing grids that are doing the crunching of actual data. They also do simulations but not on Boinc platform.

Theory exists to make predictions; why would ATLAS and CMS waste valuable computing resources (ours) replicating that effort, when those resources could be better used to check experimental data?
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Message 47903 - Posted: 26 Mar 2023, 6:11:50 UTC - in response to Message 47728.  

No more Atlas-Tasks ?
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