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Send message Joined: 13 May 14 Posts: 387 Credit: 15,314,184 RAC: 0 |
Same for me, my main PC hasn't gotten any tasks since Friday. I'll check with the admins... |
Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 455 Credit: 201,270,405 RAC: 4,379 |
Me too, but not all of my machines are effected PHuW10: 5xCMS exist, no ATLAS Atlas1: 0xCMS, Full with ATLAS WoolyW10: 0xCMS, several ATLAS, just got more ATLAS From my infrastructure, I would make a guess, that the existence of other CERN-VM-Apps (CMS by me) blocks the download of ATLAS Supporting BOINC, a great concept ! |
Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 455 Credit: 201,270,405 RAC: 4,379 |
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Send message Joined: 15 Jun 08 Posts: 2541 Credit: 254,608,838 RAC: 23,290 |
Yeti wrote: From my infrastructure, I would make a guess, that the existence of other CERN-VM-Apps (CMS by me) blocks the download of ATLAS. Not here as I run a separate client instance that is configured to run nothing else but ATLAS. |
Send message Joined: 2 May 07 Posts: 2244 Credit: 173,902,375 RAC: 307 |
On every of three PC's one SL69 native. One is getting Atlas-tasks without interrupt. The other two get nothing since last week. So it seem infrastructure ? |
Send message Joined: 18 Dec 16 Posts: 123 Credit: 37,495,365 RAC: 0 |
On every of three PC's one SL69 native. Same for me: 3 Windows PCs with VirtualBox, same settings in LHC@Home preferences (ATLAS + SixTrack), but only one can get ATLAS tasks. I just tried removing and re-adding LHC@Home in BOINC on one of the machines but the result is the same: "No tasks are available for ATLAS Simulation". We are the product of random evolution. |
Send message Joined: 2 May 07 Posts: 2244 Credit: 173,902,375 RAC: 307 |
The deadline in LHCatHome Website for the starting tasks is ONE day later as in Boincmanager shown. (Also for Theory-tasks) Maybe this info is useful. |
Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 455 Credit: 201,270,405 RAC: 4,379 |
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Send message Joined: 23 Jun 14 Posts: 12 Credit: 6,352,778,140 RAC: 852,027 |
ATLAS jobs recently adds the "priority" feature, and with the old configuration on the lhc@home server, only the very reliable hosts can get these priority jobs, that is why for the past a few days, some volunteer hosts could not get any task even though there are unsent (high priority) jobs. We reconfigured the server, so now volunteer host can all get tasks! |
Send message Joined: 15 Jun 08 Posts: 2541 Credit: 254,608,838 RAC: 23,290 |
Wenjing Wu wrote: ... only the very reliable hosts can get these priority jobs ... Is it possible to get a definition for that? To me it seems that the job distribution was just random. |
Send message Joined: 11 Aug 11 Posts: 6 Credit: 16,714,519 RAC: 0 |
I noticed that just before I stopped receiving jobs that I had an http error which failed a task, Then nothing after that forever. Rather harsh wouldn't y0ou say? Thank you for fixing it. Stderr output <core_client_version>7.6.22</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <message> WU download error: couldn't get input files: <file_xfer_error> <file_name>jf_103ca2cca0d32ddc21eadb90b9344233</file_name> <error_code>-224 (permanent HTTP error)</error_code> <error_message>permanent HTTP error</error_message> </file_xfer_error> </message> ]]> Only one I've seen in months |
Send message Joined: 22 May 17 Posts: 15 Credit: 1,226,011 RAC: 4 |
Adding to the conversation... I have regularly been receiving Atlas tasks without interruption, for the past few weeks. Behaviour on my computer: Atlas will download 8 tasks, run 1 (4 CPU), as soon as it completes and transmits, a new task will download. This keeps a queue of 8 tasks always on my computer (1 running, 7 waiting). This behaviour appeared immediately after the deadlines were cut from 2 weeks to 1 week. Late last week, the deadlines moved to 3 days, now they appear to be back out to 1 week. But I have not seen any times when my computer was without Atlas tasks. |
Send message Joined: 28 Sep 04 Posts: 732 Credit: 49,373,095 RAC: 13,741 |
The deadline in LHCatHome Website for the starting tasks is ONE day later as in Boincmanager shown. (Also for Theory-tasks) And the deadline showing in Boinc Manager is what seems to apply. I just had over 30 LHCb tasks automatically aborted because "Not started by deadline - canceled" when deadline in Boinc Manager arrived. So the deadline on the web-pages is off by one day. |
Send message Joined: 6 Jul 17 Posts: 22 Credit: 29,430,354 RAC: 0 |
ATLAS jobs recently adds the "priority" feature, and with the old configuration on the lhc@home server, only the very reliable hosts can get these priority jobs, that is why for the past a few days, some volunteer hosts could not get any task even though there are unsent (high priority) jobs. We reconfigured the server, so now volunteer host can all get tasks! I think the problem of 'No sent Tasks' in Atlas is not solved completly at the moment. I got max. 6 Task, this include the active one's. At the Moment i drive 4 Task with 3 Cores on the Ryzen CPU (runtime about 10.000 sec), so there are only 2 fresh WU's in queue. This is a to low value because of the upload Limitation of my DSL-Connect. If the Ryzen Cpu finished more than 2 WU's at the same time and other Computer's are uploading something (GPUGrid files are 100 - 150MB's upload) Ryzen will be on idle for hour's. Aktual all 3 Computers got max. 6 Task include active one's. No difference between slower i7-2600, mid i7-5820k and Ryzen 1700. Hope you can figure out the Task limitation of the scheduler. |
Send message Joined: 14 Jan 10 Posts: 1422 Credit: 9,484,585 RAC: 852 |
Aktual all 3 Computers got max. 6 Task include active one's. No difference between slower i7-2600, mid i7-5820k and Ryzen 1700. Did you set in your preferences for Max # jobs "No limit". If, then try Max # jobs 24. |
Send message Joined: 18 Dec 16 Posts: 123 Credit: 37,495,365 RAC: 0 |
Hi Crystal, I have Max # jobs 24 on my 3 machines and can only get 6 pending ATLAS tasks. See this thread: https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=4432 We are the product of random evolution. |
Send message Joined: 14 Jan 10 Posts: 1422 Credit: 9,484,585 RAC: 852 |
The queue for ATLAS simulation tasks is empty. Please refill. |
Send message Joined: 2 May 07 Posts: 2244 Credit: 173,902,375 RAC: 307 |
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Send message Joined: 13 May 14 Posts: 387 Credit: 15,314,184 RAC: 0 |
We had two separate problems this morning in our infrastructure which stopped the submission of WU to the BOINC server. These have both been fixed and there are new WU available now. |
Send message Joined: 2 May 07 Posts: 2244 Credit: 173,902,375 RAC: 307 |
Thank you David and your Team. |
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