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1) Message boards : Theory Application : 208 (0x000000D0) EXIT_SUB_TASK_FAILURE
Message 52070
Posted 8 Aug 2025 by Profilerbpeake
Is this being addressed?
2) Message boards : ATLAS application : All tasks failing
Message 51119
Posted 23 Nov 2024 by Profilerbpeake
[quote]Same error as [url]https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=6248

Much disappointing. And a bit surprising, to me, since we're speaking of the CERN.
However I don't know how much useful can actually be the work processed on our PCs, and so how much effort it deserves beside CERN "regular" work.

It's a matter of fact that, among the few distributed computing projects still alive (a small fraction of those running not so many years ago), this one looks more prone to periodical issues (in my limited experience, at least), which I find... unexpected.
--
Bye, Lem


I certainly get the feeling that this project is not a particularly high priority.
3) Message boards : CMS Application : What is this nonsense?
Message 50530
Posted 27 Jul 2024 by Profilerbpeake
I agree that a more prominent notice of the new CMS requirement would be a good idea.

What is somewhat misleading is that under project setup for CMS you can choose different numbers of CPU’s to use without being aware that 4-CPU’s is the only configuration that will return valid CMS results. It is different than the other LHC projects.
4) Message boards : CMS Application : no new WUs available
Message 50481
Posted 12 Jul 2024 by Profilerbpeake
Is the system setup to provide continuous work without human Intervention? I thought that was the goal?
Thanks.
5) Message boards : ATLAS application : Why are Runtimes so Variable?
Message 50425
Posted 20 Jun 2024 by Profilerbpeake
Assuming each work unit consists of 400 tasks, there are instances when the runtimes (on the same machine, no change in setup) vary widely.

For example, a typical runtime for my setup is approximately 26,000 seconds, but this can vary sometimes from 8,800 up to 32,000 seconds.

Thanks.
6) Message boards : ATLAS application : 3-core task crunches slower than 2-core task - why so?
Message 50369
Posted 10 Jun 2024 by Profilerbpeake
I think this is due to the extra shuffling the OS has to do it make the tasks a little slower each time
well, I would understand "a little slower" - but in this case the difference is tremendous.
Why would I waste 3 cores per task if I can achieve the same computation result with 2 cores?
It I were not limited with 32GB RAM, I would now try eight 1-core tasks in order to find out how this relates to the 2-core and 3-core operation.

Do these observations remain valid currently? In other words, the fewer cores you use the more efficient is the process?
Thanks.
7) Message boards : ATLAS application : Download failures
Message 50298
Posted 30 May 2024 by Profilerbpeake
For me on one computer resetting the project does not fix the problems, I will monitor further.


I did like Crystal did and removed the project and then attached to it again and the problem was solved.


Agreed, resetting the project does not work. You have to remove the project, and then reattach.
8) Message boards : ATLAS application : 2000 Events Threadripper 3995WX
Message 49627
Posted 24 Feb 2024 by Profilerbpeake
I agree.
9) Message boards : ATLAS application : queue is empty
Message 48609
Posted 22 Sep 2023 by Profilerbpeake
They could have announced it on the forum and leave the decision to abort to the crunchers. They could also have tested them on the dev-site first. But it is what it is, there's no point in crying over spilled milk.
I wasn't aware Boinc had the facility to remotely abort a started task. Perhaps it's just other projects don't like doing so. I'm not sure why anyone would want to finish a task which is just going to be discarded at the project end.


Is the way to successfully complete these long units is to use more processors to accelerate completion time of the work unit? When does the "kill switch" appear, after about a day and a half of processing?

I just answered my own question. Both units were cancelled by the server at precisely 112,671.63 seconds.
10) Message boards : ATLAS application : queue is empty
Message 48543
Posted 13 Sep 2023 by Profilerbpeake
I recall that with the faster processing time, David was considering a 500-event work unit.
11) Message boards : ATLAS application : queue is empty
Message 48534
Posted 11 Sep 2023 by Profilerbpeake
Sounds good to me.

Thanks for picking this up this project!
12) Message boards : CMS Application : no new WUs available
Message 48507
Posted 7 Sep 2023 by Profilerbpeake
Thank goodness you are OK! Head injuries can be the worst, as we learned when the actor Bob Sagat died from a head injury resulting from a fall. I have been hoping for the best for you, and it's great to hear from you again!
13) Message boards : News : Server upgrade
Message 48470
Posted 23 Aug 2023 by Profilerbpeake
... Ivan isn't the only one running CMS ...
however, it looks like, doesn't it ?


It seems to be a typical bureaucratic organization where changes are implemented slowly, imho.
14) Message boards : ATLAS application : Virtual Box Error?
Message 48038
Posted 26 Apr 2023 by Profilerbpeake
Same error as described here:
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=5982&postid=47976
Same solution, except that here (so far only!) the ATLAS vdi is affected.

This worked great, thank you!

For another Windows machine, I get this message in the BOINC log
4/25/2023 8:15:20 PM | LHC@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
4/25/2023 8:15:20 PM | LHC@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU
4/25/2023 8:15:21 PM | LHC@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
4/25/2023 8:15:21 PM | LHC@home | No tasks sent
4/25/2023 8:15:21 PM | LHC@home | No tasks are available for ATLAS Simulation

The project settings are for Atlas tasks, of which presently there are plenty. Weird.
15) Message boards : ATLAS application : Virtual Box Error?
Message 48034
Posted 24 Apr 2023 by Profilerbpeake
Does anyone know what the VM failure is in the log for this work unit?
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=392169401
2023-04-24 10:34:15 (19704): Adding virtual disk drive to VM. (ATLAS_vbox_3.01_image.vdi)
2023-04-24 10:34:22 (19704): Error in deregister parent vdi for VM: -2135228404
Command:
VBoxManage -q closemedium "C:\ProgramData\BOINC/projects/lhcathome.cern.ch_lhcathome/ATLAS_vbox_3.01_image.vdi"
Output:
VBoxManage.exe: error: Cannot close medium 'C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\lhcathome.cern.ch_lhcathome\ATLAS_vbox_3.01_image.vdi' because it has 1 child media
VBoxManage.exe: error: Details: code VBOX_E_OBJECT_IN_USE (0x80bb000c), component MediumWrap, interface IMedium, callee IUnknown
VBoxManage.exe: error: Context: "Close()" at line 1875 of file VBoxManageDisk.cpp

2023-04-24 10:34:22 (19704): Could not create VM
2023-04-24 10:34:22 (19704): ERROR: VM failed to start
2023-04-24 10:34:22 (19704): Powering off VM.
2023-04-24 10:34:22 (19704): Deregistering VM. (boinc_59cce48668c5a14b, slot#0)
2023-04-24 10:34:23 (19704): Removing network bandwidth throttle group from VM.
2023-04-24 10:34:23 (19704): Removing VM from VirtualBox.
16) Message boards : ATLAS application : ATLAS vbox and native 3.01
Message 48002
Posted 12 Apr 2023 by Profilerbpeake
I can confirm we are now mostly running the Run 3 tasks. I asked for some test tasks here and got more than I thought :)

These tasks are processing 500 events but each event is faster than before so the overall run time should be only a little bit longer.

Also as you have noticed the console monitoring doesn’t work due to changes in the logging format. The “top” monitoring on Alt-F3 also shows a single python process instead of multiple athena.py processes.


Just idle curiosity, wondering what it is about the Run 3 tasks that make them run more efficiently than those of Run 2?
Thanks.
17) Message boards : ATLAS application : ATLAS vbox and native 3.01
Message 47939
Posted 29 Mar 2023 by Profilerbpeake
Is the VM RAM size going to be adjusted eventually or will the current defaults be used because 3.01 can run 'Run 2' and 'Run 3'? Will the VM change the RAM assigned by 'Run 2' vs 'Run 3'?

The RAM size is set to 4000 MB independend of running tasks from run 2 or run 3.
It also doesn't matter whether you run single core vbox tasks or multi-core e.g. 4 or 8 cores.

Was it determined in years past that runs using 4 or more cores resulted in a sharp reduction in processing efficiency?
18) Message boards : ATLAS application : ATLAS vbox and native 3.01
Message 47930
Posted 28 Mar 2023 by Profilerbpeake
I agree with this.

Thanks.
19) Message boards : ATLAS application : Endless Errors
Message 47866
Posted 17 Mar 2023 by Profilerbpeake
Keep getting errors (I have since put on No New Tasks) and so have other people.
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/results.php?hostid=10787099&offset=40&show_names=0&state=0&appid=
20) Message boards : ATLAS application : queue is empty
Message 47733
Posted 26 Jan 2023 by Profilerbpeake
The tasks that we crunch here are not results produced by LHC but simulations. So we are not depending on LHC running or not.

Be that as it may, I rather suspect what we crunch here is based on experimental reality. Otherwise, what is the point to any of it?


Simulations test the theory, which is then confirmed with reality. If reality does not match theory, then the theory is revised. So one can run simulations whether or not an experiment happens to be running at the same time.
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