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Message 52469 - Posted: 5 Oct 2025, 15:42:40 UTC - in response to Message 52467.  

Welcome to CreditNew

Wait until you run quorum = 2 tasks and your credit is 1/10th of what it should be because your wingman hasn't run benchmarks.


Oh yeah, I got some of those in DENIS I think.
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Message 52470 - Posted: 5 Oct 2025, 16:09:14 UTC

Welcome to Sixtrack 2004
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Message 52471 - Posted: 5 Oct 2025, 16:24:09 UTC - in response to Message 52468.  

WUs with CPU time 10 times less get 100 times less points:
Yesterday CPU time 15,780.35 got 148.07 points
Today CPU time 1,823.91 got 2.68 points


Well, i'm not so interested in points
But it's great if admin/researchers say something about science of the app. Is working ok? Some preliminary results?
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Message 52472 - Posted: 5 Oct 2025, 17:35:03 UTC

05.10.2025 19:34:16 | LHC@home | No tasks are available for XTrack
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Message 52473 - Posted: 5 Oct 2025, 19:01:22 UTC - in response to Message 52464.  

Something has changed: credits awarded for the latest batch of tasks are a fraction of what was granted up until yesterday. CPU time required for 1 credit is about 500-1000 seconds which seems to be 10x as much as it used to be.


Awwwww, I got a nice amount from this secondary attempt from older patch:
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/workunit.php?wuid=235149536

Just a tiny difference... still blends in like a chameleon:
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/results.php?hostid=10924719&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=19
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Message 52474 - Posted: 5 Oct 2025, 19:02:50 UTC - in response to Message 52473.  

Insane
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Message 52475 - Posted: 5 Oct 2025, 19:05:41 UTC - in response to Message 52473.  

Something has changed: credits awarded for the latest batch of tasks are a fraction of what was granted up until yesterday. CPU time required for 1 credit is about 500-1000 seconds which seems to be 10x as much as it used to be.


Awwwww, I got a nice amount from this secondary attempt from older patch:
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/workunit.php?wuid=235149536

Just a tiny difference... still blends in like a chameleon:
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/results.php?hostid=10924719&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=19


Wow, that is insane! I also got 2 resends from an older batch, now I'm curious to see if I'll get bugged credits for them as well
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Message 52476 - Posted: 6 Oct 2025, 5:05:16 UTC - in response to Message 52473.  

Something has changed: credits awarded for the latest batch of tasks are a fraction of what was granted up until yesterday. CPU time required for 1 credit is about 500-1000 seconds which seems to be 10x as much as it used to be.


Awwwww, I got a nice amount from this secondary attempt from older patch:
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/workunit.php?wuid=235149536

Just a tiny difference... still blends in like a chameleon:
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/results.php?hostid=10924719&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=19


Welp, I only got the normal amount of credits for the ones that have finished.
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Message 52479 - Posted: 6 Oct 2025, 14:54:00 UTC
Last modified: 6 Oct 2025, 14:54:21 UTC

Yeah I got a "medium big" batch yesterday (I just have a 4 threads linux host running LHC) with "extra-mini-credits", a again a small batch (as usual) today with "small-credits-as-before" :)
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Message 52484 - Posted: 7 Oct 2025, 16:32:08 UTC

New XTrack version (0.50 beta test) since 7 Oct 2025, 14:39:54 UTC operational
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Message 52485 - Posted: 7 Oct 2025, 16:44:26 UTC - in response to Message 52484.  
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New XTrack version (0.50 beta test) since 7 Oct 2025, 14:39:54 UTC operational


Already have several rigs crunching, waiting for the first finishers.

Edit: Old i5-6200U running Linux Mint 22.1 crunched the first two in under an hour. 1 credit was granted for about 110 seconds of CPU time which seems ok.
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Message 52487 - Posted: 7 Oct 2025, 17:58:19 UTC - in response to Message 52485.  

Oh, I forgot: initial runtime estimate was a bit over a day, then it got corrected to 47 minutes even before the first task finished. 5 tasks have finished up until now and they ran between 51 and 64 minutes (50-63 CPU minutes).
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Message 52490 - Posted: 8 Oct 2025, 5:02:43 UTC
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Got my first error:

<core_client_version>8.2.4</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
(unknown error) (317) - exit code 4294967295 (0xffffffff)</message>
<stderr_txt>
2025-10-08 05:15:44 (4356): Xboinc version of executable and input file do not match!

</stderr_txt>
]]>


Edit: Oh, right, older aborted/timed out WUs that were originally sent out with 0.41 are crashing on 0.5.
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Message 52494 - Posted: 8 Oct 2025, 9:15:52 UTC - in response to Message 52490.  

Same here with 'XTrack v0.50 x86_64-pc-linux-gnu'.

<core_client_version>7.20.2</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
process exited with code 255 (0xff, -1)</message>
<stderr_txt>
2025-10-08 04:59:51 (22013): Xboinc version of executable and input file do not match!

</stderr_txt>
]]>
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Message 52497 - Posted: 8 Oct 2025, 21:55:55 UTC

v0.5 is running very nicely on AMD Epyc Milan debian, consistent progress % estimate on all tasks now, they started around 5/10 mn this afternoon and now it's more 35/40 mn, no error and I have a nice little stock (130 tasks for 4 threads) : good job guys !
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Message 52500 - Posted: 9 Oct 2025, 12:29:50 UTC - in response to Message 52497.  

since my host has received version 0.50, a few tasks were crunched okay, but most fail after 0 to 2 seconds with a computation error; stderr says:

Xboinc version of executable and input file do not match!

examlple see here: https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=428083986

what's going wrong? With version 0.41, I never had this problem.
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Message 52501 - Posted: 9 Oct 2025, 12:59:06 UTC - in response to Message 52500.  

since my host has received version 0.50, a few tasks were crunched okay, but most fail after 0 to 2 seconds with a computation error; stderr says:

Xboinc version of executable and input file do not match!

examlple see here: https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=428083986

what's going wrong? With version 0.41, I never had this problem.

These WUs had first been sent for XTrack v0.41 and are tied to that version.
Since that version is no longer available the error will happen until all those tasks are done.

https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/workunit.php?wuid=235019331

Fortunately they don't consume significant CPU time.
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Message 52502 - Posted: 9 Oct 2025, 23:01:48 UTC

Hello, i've been trying to get jobs for xtrack but apparently I can't get any more since my computer has finished the daily quota of 1 task. Is this because I had 1 failed task with the version mismatch?

I'm still able to get good ATLAS tasks and CMS is still broken.
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Message 52503 - Posted: 10 Oct 2025, 3:01:52 UTC - in response to Message 52502.  

seconds later......you got 32 Xtracks.....so just check your Boinc settings to try to get more
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Message 52505 - Posted: 10 Oct 2025, 18:05:51 UTC
Last modified: 10 Oct 2025, 18:09:08 UTC

A lot of very short tasks at the moment. Some of them take less than 10 seconds, mostly less than 30 seconds. They do get validated and get credit.
[edit] Here's one: https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=428268819
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