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Message 52449 - Posted: 4 Oct 2025, 12:51:33 UTC

Yay initial ETA of 149 days
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Message 52450 - Posted: 4 Oct 2025, 12:55:56 UTC - in response to Message 52449.  

Yay initial ETA of 149 days


Got tasks on another laptop that I can access with TeamViewer and I see an estimate of 22 hours.
After 7 minutes I see 0,5% progress which is consistent with the total runtime estimate.
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Message 52451 - Posted: 4 Oct 2025, 12:58:29 UTC - in response to Message 52446.  

The estimated runtime for these tasks on my 7950X is over 2000 hours
121 days on my 3900X which hadn't seen Xtrack before. The tasks don't seem to report progress so the remaining time doesn't drop below inf until the tasks finish. Full to the brim in one moment, empty in the next.
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Message 52452 - Posted: 4 Oct 2025, 15:12:09 UTC

Hmm curious, estimate is 135 days but due in 5 days, does not compute.

These latest work units may have the wrong settings

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Message 52453 - Posted: 4 Oct 2025, 15:57:32 UTC - in response to Message 52450.  

Got tasks on another laptop that I can access with TeamViewer and I see an estimate of 22 hours.
After 7 minutes I see 0,5% progress which is consistent with the total runtime estimate.


One of them just finished after 3 hours. Probably ran out of particles as Carlo suggested. The other 17 are all showing the same progress and remaining estimate.
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Message 52454 - Posted: 4 Oct 2025, 17:15:49 UTC - in response to Message 52452.  

Hmm curious, estimate is 135 days but due in 5 days, does not compute.
Fortunately BOINC is not that smart so it does compute. After finishing some tasks my estimates are down from 121 days to 96 minutes which looks reasonable.
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Message 52455 - Posted: 4 Oct 2025, 19:30:33 UTC
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Some of the tasks progress the %, others jump from 0.10 % to completion. From the tasks I've been able to watch, its ones with flat in the name that jump to 100%. Due to the crazy high ETA, the client will not ask for more work as it's expecting the tasks to run basically forever. Tasks with round in the name only have 500 FLOPS vs 500k FLOPS with flat in the name so the % completion actually works even with similar run time.

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Message 52456 - Posted: 4 Oct 2025, 19:38:27 UTC
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I've been trying to get these new xtrack tasks for a week now, I updated both virtualbox and boinc because the server complaining about it but it was already installed. Do they come with some extra caviat I don't know about? Now the virtualbox issue is gone, shouldn't even cause a problem since xtrack is not using virtual box, but it seems that the server is still rejecting to send me new tasks.

2025. 10. 04. 15:01:21 | LHC@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU
2025. 10. 04. 15:01:22 | LHC@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2025. 10. 04. 15:01:22 | LHC@home | No tasks sent
2025. 10. 04. 15:01:22 | LHC@home | No tasks are available for XTrack
2025. 10. 04. 15:01:22 | LHC@home | Project requested delay of 6 seconds 
At the time of writing there are 51738 tasks in the queue. At this point I'm clueless why I'm unable to recive any xtrack task.
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Message 52457 - Posted: 4 Oct 2025, 19:41:21 UTC - in response to Message 52455.  

Some of the tasks progress the %, others jump from 0.10 % to completion. From the tasks I've been able to watch, its ones with flat in the name that jump to 100%. Due to the crazy high ETA, the client will not ask for more work as it's expecting the tasks to run basically forever. Tasks with round in the name only have 500 FLOPS vs 500k FLOPS with flat in the name so the % completion actually works even with similar run time.

camontan__tune_scan_start_of_collapse_flat_scan_195__ScanShort_2_1__Hm6gxUEpNDDl_0


I finally ran into this issue when a laptop running Linux Mint got a few tasks. ETA is 126 days. Similarly named "flat" tasks are estimated at 22-24 hours on Windows and actually run 3-5, possibly longer when more particles survive.
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Message 52458 - Posted: 4 Oct 2025, 20:04:19 UTC - in response to Message 52456.  

... the server is still rejecting to send me new tasks.

As long as it is marked as beta app you need to allow beta work at your prefs page.
Be aware that this may cause unexpected behaviour.
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Message 52459 - Posted: 4 Oct 2025, 20:17:33 UTC - in response to Message 52458.  

Ah thank you so much!
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Message 52460 - Posted: 5 Oct 2025, 0:10:06 UTC

I've got a task that is due October 10 and has an estimated time to completion of 49 days. Will this rectify itself and be done much sooner than in the third week of November? If not, it will miss the deadline by well over a month.
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Message 52461 - Posted: 5 Oct 2025, 1:12:57 UTC - in response to Message 52460.  

I've got a task that is due October 10 and has an estimated time to completion of 49 days. Will this rectify itself and be done much sooner than in the third week of November? If not, it will miss the deadline by well over a month.


It wont take that long, probably around 4 hours or so, the estimates are just way off but will come down as more work units get done by yourself.

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Message 52462 - Posted: 5 Oct 2025, 4:12:24 UTC - in response to Message 52457.  

Some of the tasks progress the %, others jump from 0.10 % to completion. From the tasks I've been able to watch, its ones with flat in the name that jump to 100%. Due to the crazy high ETA, the client will not ask for more work as it's expecting the tasks to run basically forever. Tasks with round in the name only have 500 FLOPS vs 500k FLOPS with flat in the name so the % completion actually works even with similar run time.

camontan__tune_scan_start_of_collapse_flat_scan_195__ScanShort_2_1__Hm6gxUEpNDDl_0


I finally ran into this issue when a laptop running Linux Mint got a few tasks. ETA is 126 days. Similarly named "flat" tasks are estimated at 22-24 hours on Windows and actually run 3-5, possibly longer when more particles survive.


Can confirm that the Linux tasks also run 2-6 hours regardless of initial ETA.
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Message 52463 - Posted: 5 Oct 2025, 12:29:06 UTC

https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=427741365
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Message 52464 - Posted: 5 Oct 2025, 13:06:28 UTC

Something has changed: credits awarded for the latest batch of tasks are a fraction of what was granted up until yesterday. CPU time required for 1 credit is about 500-1000 seconds which seems to be 10x as much as it used to be.
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Message 52465 - Posted: 5 Oct 2025, 14:41:34 UTC - in response to Message 52464.  

Something has changed: credits awarded for the latest batch of tasks are a fraction of what was granted up until yesterday. CPU time required for 1 credit is about 500-1000 seconds which seems to be 10x as much as it used to be.


The wus are a lot shorter than before...
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Message 52466 - Posted: 5 Oct 2025, 14:55:12 UTC - in response to Message 52465.  

Something has changed: credits awarded for the latest batch of tasks are a fraction of what was granted up until yesterday. CPU time required for 1 credit is about 500-1000 seconds which seems to be 10x as much as it used to be.


The wus are a lot shorter than before...


Yeah, but that doesn't change the fact that we're getting 1/10th of the credits per CPU time.
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Message 52467 - Posted: 5 Oct 2025, 14:59:38 UTC

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Wait until you run quorum = 2 tasks and your credit is 1/10th of what it should be because your wingman hasn't run benchmarks.
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Message 52468 - Posted: 5 Oct 2025, 15:01:51 UTC - in response to Message 52465.  

Something has changed: credits awarded for the latest batch of tasks are a fraction of what was granted up until yesterday. CPU time required for 1 credit is about 500-1000 seconds which seems to be 10x as much as it used to be.


The wus are a lot shorter than before...


WUs with CPU time 10 times less get 100 times less points:
Yesterday CPU time 15,780.35 got 148.07 points
Today CPU time 1,823.91 got 2.68 points
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