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Message 51453 - Posted: 27 Jan 2025, 11:00:39 UTC - in response to Message 51451.  

Registry key "Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\DeviceGuard\Scenarios\WindowsHello\Enable"? Does not exist

If the key does not exist, create it and set it's value to "0"?

Create a new registry key to download some wus? It seems not a good idea...

In addition ensure "Run native if available? (Not recommended for Windows)" at the prefs page is not checked for the venue your Windows computers are attached to.

I have Windows and this option has never been enabled.
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Message 51455 - Posted: 27 Jan 2025, 15:52:28 UTC

Hello Business from Windows11 today.
Two PC's being stopped with updates from my side.
Don't know why Microsoft want to update 11pro Systems with "Hello Business".
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Message 51466 - Posted: 29 Jan 2025, 6:20:31 UTC - in response to Message 51455.  
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new problem:

while CMS and Theory task run well on my new Windows 11 (after having overcome all the initial problems by making the adaptions in the registry as discussed above in this thread), Atlas tasks are failing after several minutes.

What I noticed when the task was running: there was not button "show VM console" in the lefthand part of the BOINC manager.
This was obviously confirmed in the stderr when it says "Required extension pack not installed, remote desktop not enabled." However, the extension pack is installed, of course.
the complete stderr can be seen here: https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=419173888

So, what' wrong this time?

Edit: my guess: the wrapper 26206 should be relplaced by 26208 (as it was the case for CMS and Theory recently)
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Message 51467 - Posted: 29 Jan 2025, 7:14:17 UTC - in response to Message 51466.  
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Have Virtualbox 7.0.22 from Boinc-Website with Extensionpack 7.0.22.
Atlas is running for me in Win11pro.
vboxwrapper is difficult, because of Theory, CMS AND Atlas in Windows.
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Message 51468 - Posted: 29 Jan 2025, 7:31:30 UTC - in response to Message 51466.  

So, what' wrong this time?

Edit: my guess: the wrapper 26206 should be relplaced by 26208 (as it was the case for CMS and Theory recently)

Good quess!
With ATLAS I have the same problems as mentioned here.
I had errors. valids (short runs without HITS) and only 1 real valid: https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/results.php?hostid=10690380&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=14
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Message 51471 - Posted: 29 Jan 2025, 9:25:27 UTC - in response to Message 51468.  

So, what' wrong this time?

Edit: my guess: the wrapper 26206 should be relplaced by 26208 (as it was the case for CMS and Theory recently)

Good quess!
With ATLAS I have the same problems as mentioned here.
I had errors. valids (short runs without HITS) and only 1 real valid: https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/results.php?hostid=10690380&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=14
hm, how come your tasks used wrapper 26208, while mine downloaded 26206 (while 26208 was already present in the lhcathome... folder?
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Message 51472 - Posted: 29 Jan 2025, 10:00:31 UTC - in response to Message 51471.  

So, what' wrong this time?

Edit: my guess: the wrapper 26206 should be relplaced by 26208 (as it was the case for CMS and Theory recently)

Good quess!
With ATLAS I have the same problems as mentioned here.
I had errors. valids (short runs without HITS) and only 1 real valid: https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/results.php?hostid=10690380&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=14
hm, how come your tasks used wrapper 26208, while mine downloaded 26206 (while 26208 was already present in the lhcathome... folder?

Probably because below my name is written: Volunteer tester ;)
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Message 51473 - Posted: 29 Jan 2025, 14:37:29 UTC - in response to Message 51468.  

So, what' wrong this time?

Edit: my guess: the wrapper 26206 should be relplaced by 26208 (as it was the case for CMS and Theory recently)

Good quess!
With ATLAS I have the same problems as mentioned here.
I had errors. valids (short runs without HITS) and only 1 real valid: https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/results.php?hostid=10690380&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=14
so, that's what I did:

I renamed the wrapper 26208 to read 26206 - at least with the result that now the VM console button shows up in the BOINC manager; however, the console does not work properly.
I processed several tasks, with 2 types of result:

- the task finished after about half an hour and yields credit points, but did NOT produce a HITS file: https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=419180754
- the task fails after about 15-18 minutes with confirmation error: https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=419181161

Conclusion: ATLAS needs an updated VBox wrapper.
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Message 51479 - Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 16:14:19 UTC - in response to Message 51467.  

Have Virtualbox 7.0.22 from Boinc-Website with Extensionpack 7.0.22.
Atlas is running for me in Win11pro.
vboxwrapper is difficult, because of Theory, CMS AND Atlas in Windows.


Maybe i have to downgrade my VirtualBox from 7.1 to 7.0.x....
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Message 51567 - Posted: 18 Feb 2025, 15:53:57 UTC - in response to Message 51413.  

computezrmle wrote on Jan. 15, 2025:
I wonder which registry key will be required after the next Windows update.
:-(
yesterday, I dared to make some Windows updates - and surprise, surprise: CMS and Theory are still working (without any new adaptions to the registry).
And, as before, Atlas does not function:
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=419685524
Well, I'll have to live with this problem.
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Message 51573 - Posted: 19 Feb 2025, 16:18:14 UTC - in response to Message 51567.  

only 3 cores cpu :(.
Atlas need more cores
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Message 51574 - Posted: 19 Feb 2025, 16:49:34 UTC - in response to Message 51573.  

only 3 cores cpu :(.
Atlas need more cores

No.
ATLAS checks how many cores are available and uses up to 8 in a VirtualBox VM and up to 12 if you run the native app.
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Message 51576 - Posted: 19 Feb 2025, 20:23:24 UTC

Only 12?
So it won't be able to blast all 400 events with a 256 cores cpu?

Also Why does lhcathome give me Atlas workunits when i set settings to
SixTrack: no
sixtracktest: no
CMS Simulation: no
Theory Simulation: yes
ATLAS Simulation: no
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? yes
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Lhcathome gives me Theory workunits when i set settings to
SixTrack: no
sixtracktest: no
CMS Simulation: no
Theory Simulation: yes
ATLAS Simulation: no
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? no
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