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Message 46572 - Posted: 2 Apr 2022, 6:28:20 UTC

Hello,

Is there any way to get the specific credits for ATLAS and not the grand total?

Thank you
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Message 46573 - Posted: 2 Apr 2022, 6:40:54 UTC - in response to Message 46572.  

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Message 46574 - Posted: 2 Apr 2022, 6:48:23 UTC - in response to Message 46572.  

You asked nearly the same question in Dec 2018:
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=4910&postid=37683

Since then the relevant part of the BOINC server code has not been changed significantly.
If you want it to be coded you need to make a change request here:
https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/issues
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Message 46575 - Posted: 2 Apr 2022, 8:10:54 UTC - in response to Message 46574.  

And already at that time I said:

"My question referred to my account only"

I'll get by with the generic stats then...

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Message 46576 - Posted: 2 Apr 2022, 8:28:11 UTC - in response to Message 46575.  

https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/per_app_list.php?appid=14&is_team=&is_total=0&offset=540
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Message 46577 - Posted: 2 Apr 2022, 8:32:01 UTC - in response to Message 46576.  

You can sort this list also to Atlas-Total at the top, not only duration.
Also for other Projects in LHCatHome.
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Message 46578 - Posted: 2 Apr 2022, 10:33:39 UTC - in response to Message 46577.  

Yes I know but as I knew my average and not my total at all it was the quickest way to access my stats and therefore know the total and then do a search by total:

https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/per_app_list.php?appid=14&is_team=&is_total=1&offset=2700

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Message 46714 - Posted: 3 May 2022, 7:23:27 UTC

as we know, the credit points tent to decrease slightly after each start of a new series.

However, today I notice a sudden drop to about a third compared to what it was still yesterday.
Any explanation for this?
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Message 46715 - Posted: 3 May 2022, 8:55:38 UTC - in response to Message 46714.  
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There are lot's of validate errors being produced by certain hosts in the last 12hrs. Here are two for starters

https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/show_host_detail.php?hostid=10628444
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/show_host_detail.php?hostid=10693159

When another host gets the resend, credit awarded is but a fraction of what it should be.
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Message 46725 - Posted: 3 May 2022, 11:09:15 UTC - in response to Message 46715.  

When another host gets the resend, credit awarded is but a fraction of what it should be.
oh - how nice :-(
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Message 46729 - Posted: 3 May 2022, 14:45:50 UTC - in response to Message 46725.  

When another host gets the resend, credit awarded is but a fraction of what it should be.
oh - how nice :-(

I see this also on tasks that were sent only to my computer. Like here: https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/workunit.php?wuid=187860384
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Message 46731 - Posted: 3 May 2022, 17:59:36 UTC

The average run time of the Atlas tasks has dropped from 8...9 hours to 3...4 hours. This may be part of what we are seeing.
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Message 46732 - Posted: 3 May 2022, 18:56:37 UTC

The amount of failed tasks over the last 24hrs is causing the credit issue I would say.


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Message 46733 - Posted: 4 May 2022, 4:55:28 UTC - in response to Message 46731.  

The average run time of the Atlas tasks has dropped from 8...9 hours to 3...4 hours. This may be part of what we are seeing.
no, Harri, I am talking about roughly equally long tasks:

Date--- runtime--- CPU time--- credit

May 2nd--- 23,696.74--- 67,629.63--- 1,324.49
May 3rd--- 25,062.10--- 71,026.55--- 653.94
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Message 46734 - Posted: 4 May 2022, 6:51:35 UTC - in response to Message 46733.  

This is normally, when a new Atlas-Application is installed.
But, this is not the reason atm.
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Message 46735 - Posted: 4 May 2022, 9:35:10 UTC - in response to Message 46734.  

Laufzeit 1 Stunden 22 min. 3 sek.
CPU Zeit 13 Stunden 4 min. 17 sek.
Prüfungsstatus Gültig
Punkte 29.69
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Message 46738 - Posted: 4 May 2022, 18:11:16 UTC - in response to Message 46735.  

Punkte 29.69
OMG :-(
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Message 46739 - Posted: 4 May 2022, 18:20:01 UTC - in response to Message 46738.  

We are all in the same boat.
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Message 46740 - Posted: 4 May 2022, 22:07:54 UTC

If credit has dropped because the issue with the Credit New system has finally been addressed, ie it has been removed to prevent the rampant credit cheating, then ok.

Some clear communication from the team regarding what's going on would be a good thing.
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Message 46944 - Posted: 27 Jun 2022, 18:52:07 UTC

again very strange:

downloaded - - - - - - - - - - - - - uploaded - - - - - - - - - - - - - - runtime - - -CPU time - - credit

27 Jun 2022, 14:19:24 UTC - 27 Jun 2022, 17:59:44 UTC - 8,824.01 - 16,571.61 --- 1,111.03

27 Jun 2022, 15:44:34 UTC - 27 Jun 2022, 18:19:56 UTC - 9,221.01 - 17,321.89 --- 398.26

these WUs were downloaded and also uploaded within 1 1/2 hours (processed on the same PC), and there is a tremendous difference in credit.
I am really curious as to whether someone can ever explain this.
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