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Message 41199 - Posted: 8 Jan 2020, 2:28:11 UTC

But Server Status shows 2200 ready to be sent??

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Message 41201 - Posted: 8 Jan 2020, 10:40:39 UTC - in response to Message 41199.  

Found this in your CMS logfile:
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=258114929
2020-01-06 17:35:09 (8976): Setting Memory Size for VM. (5000MB)
2020-01-06 17:35:10 (8976): Setting CPU Count for VM. (2)

This doesn't make sense since CMS is a singlecore app.
It looks like your local configuration (app_config.xml) introduced some weird settings.
Hence the suggestion would be to run your buffers dry, remove the app_config.xml and do a project reset.
To avoid that ATLAS tasks are configured using too many cpus the web preferences should be limited to 4 cores/thread:
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/prefs.php?subset=project
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Message 41208 - Posted: 9 Jan 2020, 0:13:10 UTC - in response to Message 41201.  

Tho I find it hard to believe that a reconfigured CMS entry in app_config would prevent ATLAS downloads., I went ahead and reset LHC , (and removed all references to CMS in app_config)

I’ve got Six Track, Theory, and ATLAS selected in my preferences

I still cannot get ANY WUs to download Doesn’t tell me “not highest priority project” just doesn't download anything even tho there are WUs for all of three available according to Server Status


Any other suggestions?

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Message 41209 - Posted: 9 Jan 2020, 2:08:08 UTC - in response to Message 41208.  

I still cannot get ANY WUs to download

Try de-selecting "Run test applications?".
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=5265&postid=41206#41206
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Message 41210 - Posted: 9 Jan 2020, 7:19:41 UTC

Well

I just got a tone of Sixtrack, but no ATLAS or Theory, even tho Server Status shows both with WUs to send

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Message 41211 - Posted: 9 Jan 2020, 7:41:04 UTC - in response to Message 41210.  
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I can't get any native ATLAS either at the moment either, but I got some yesterday (within the last 12 hours).
The server is just having one of its fits.

EDIT: I was originally selecting only ATLAS. But I detached, selected "If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?", and then re-attached. Now I am getting native ATLAS, native Theory, CMS and SixTrack.

So it is all or nothing tonight.
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Message 41212 - Posted: 9 Jan 2020, 9:26:42 UTC - in response to Message 41211.  

Thats the normal behaviour of Atlas scheduling. Even if Projektstatus shows enough WU's the Server won't send them.
And if there are other Sub-Projekts selected Boinc get WU's for other Projekts and the Queue is filled up with other Wu's.

The LHC Subprojekts are so different that the best thing is to run one Boinc-Instance for every subprojekt you want to crunch.

You can be happy if a pure Atlas Instance won't dry out.

Follows a part of one Logfile of a pure Atlas Instance, more than1 hour with result uploads and no new work

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8582 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:29:52 No tasks sent
8583 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:29:52 No tasks are available for ATLAS Simulation
8584 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:29:52 Tasks for AMD/ATI GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
8585 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:43:15 Computation for task QkPKDmwNc9vn9Rq4apoT9bVoABFKDmABFKDm70BMDmABFKDmdoWzon_0 finished
8586 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:43:15 Starting task TdAODmpLd9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmY9ZXDmABFKDmT4l7Uo_0
8587 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:43:17 Started upload of QkPKDmwNc9vn9Rq4apoT9bVoABFKDmABFKDm70BMDmABFKDmdoWzon_0_r1316286078_ATLAS_result
8588 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:43:17 Started upload of QkPKDmwNc9vn9Rq4apoT9bVoABFKDmABFKDm70BMDmABFKDmdoWzon_0_r1316286078_ATLAS_hits
8589 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:43:24 Finished upload of QkPKDmwNc9vn9Rq4apoT9bVoABFKDmABFKDm70BMDmABFKDmdoWzon_0_r1316286078_ATLAS_result
8590 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:46:30 Finished upload of QkPKDmwNc9vn9Rq4apoT9bVoABFKDmABFKDm70BMDmABFKDmdoWzon_0_r1316286078_ATLAS_hits
8591 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:46:33 Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
8592 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:46:33 Reporting 1 completed tasks
8593 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:46:33 Requesting new tasks for CPU
8594 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:46:35 Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
8595 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:46:35 No tasks sent
8596 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:46:35 No tasks are available for ATLAS Simulation
8597 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:46:35 Tasks for AMD/ATI GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
8598 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:57:45 Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
8599 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:57:45 Requesting new tasks for CPU
8600 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:57:47 Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
8601 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:57:47 No tasks sent
8602 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:57:47 No tasks are available for ATLAS Simulation
8603 LHC@home 09.01.2020 08:57:47 Tasks for AMD/ATI GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
8604 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:11:04 Computation for task TieKDmQHc9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmhJoWDmABFKDmbjQnJo_0 finished
8605 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:11:04 Starting task 6okLDmJhd9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmUJkXDmABFKDmJCjdfn_0
8606 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:11:06 Started upload of TieKDmQHc9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmhJoWDmABFKDmbjQnJo_0_r1554343016_ATLAS_result
8607 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:11:06 Started upload of TieKDmQHc9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmhJoWDmABFKDmbjQnJo_0_r1554343016_ATLAS_hits
8608 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:11:12 Finished upload of TieKDmQHc9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmhJoWDmABFKDmbjQnJo_0_r1554343016_ATLAS_result
8609 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:14:11 Finished upload of TieKDmQHc9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmhJoWDmABFKDmbjQnJo_0_r1554343016_ATLAS_hits
8610 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:14:13 Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
8611 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:14:13 Reporting 1 completed tasks
8612 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:14:13 Requesting new tasks for CPU
8613 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:14:15 Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
8614 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:14:15 No tasks sent
8615 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:14:15 No tasks are available for ATLAS Simulation
8616 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:14:15 Tasks for AMD/ATI GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
8617 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:20:25 Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
8618 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:20:25 Requesting new tasks for CPU
8619 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:20:27 Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
8620 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:20:27 No tasks sent
8621 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:20:27 No tasks are available for ATLAS Simulation
8622 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:20:27 Tasks for AMD/ATI GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
8623 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:21:40 Computation for task hjMMDmWtc9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmb7JXDmABFKDmbie2Wn_0 finished
8624 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:21:41 Starting task ggXNDmt1d9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmYGxXDmABFKDmMdz94n_0
8625 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:21:43 Started upload of hjMMDmWtc9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmb7JXDmABFKDmbie2Wn_0_r1473116892_ATLAS_result
8626 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:21:43 Started upload of hjMMDmWtc9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmb7JXDmABFKDmbie2Wn_0_r1473116892_ATLAS_hits
8627 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:21:50 Finished upload of hjMMDmWtc9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmb7JXDmABFKDmbie2Wn_0_r1473116892_ATLAS_result
8628 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:24:54 Finished upload of hjMMDmWtc9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmb7JXDmABFKDmbie2Wn_0_r1473116892_ATLAS_hits
8629 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:24:58 Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
8630 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:24:58 Reporting 1 completed tasks
8631 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:24:58 Requesting new tasks for CPU
8632 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:25:00 Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
8633 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:25:00 No tasks sent
8634 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:25:00 No tasks are available for ATLAS Simulation
8635 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:25:00 Tasks for AMD/ATI GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
8636 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:27:53 Computation for task eR9MDmLfd9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmwgjXDmABFKDm5TaS5n_0 finished
8637 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:27:53 Starting task JXtKDm0We9vn9Rq4apoT9bVoABFKDmABFKDmkmbNDmABFKDmmpV8en_0
8638 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:27:55 Started upload of eR9MDmLfd9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmwgjXDmABFKDm5TaS5n_0_r1815697472_ATLAS_result
8639 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:27:55 Started upload of eR9MDmLfd9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmwgjXDmABFKDm5TaS5n_0_r1815697472_ATLAS_hits
8640 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:28:02 Finished upload of eR9MDmLfd9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmwgjXDmABFKDm5TaS5n_0_r1815697472_ATLAS_result
8641 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:31:07 Finished upload of eR9MDmLfd9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmwgjXDmABFKDm5TaS5n_0_r1815697472_ATLAS_hits
8642 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:31:10 Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
8643 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:31:10 Reporting 1 completed tasks
8644 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:31:10 Requesting new tasks for CPU
8645 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:31:11 Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
8646 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:31:11 No tasks sent
8647 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:31:11 No tasks are available for ATLAS Simulation
8648 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:31:11 Tasks for AMD/ATI GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
8649 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:32:46 Computation for task zbkMDm7ed9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmFCjXDmABFKDmsv0Kin_0 finished
8650 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:32:46 Starting task pPFKDmUoe9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmgHQYDmABFKDm1TOexm_0
8651 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:32:48 Started upload of zbkMDm7ed9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmFCjXDmABFKDmsv0Kin_0_r1469070031_ATLAS_result
8652 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:32:48 Started upload of zbkMDm7ed9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmFCjXDmABFKDmsv0Kin_0_r1469070031_ATLAS_hits
8653 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:32:55 Finished upload of zbkMDm7ed9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmFCjXDmABFKDmsv0Kin_0_r1469070031_ATLAS_result
8654 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:35:55 Finished upload of zbkMDm7ed9vnsSi4apGgGQJmABFKDmABFKDmFCjXDmABFKDmsv0Kin_0_r1469070031_ATLAS_hits
8655 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:35:57 Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
8656 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:35:57 Reporting 1 completed tasks
8657 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:35:57 Requesting new tasks for CPU
8658 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:35:59 Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
8659 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:35:59 No tasks sent
8660 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:35:59 No tasks are available for ATLAS Simulation
8661 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:35:59 Tasks for AMD/ATI GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
8662 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:48:09 Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
8663 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:48:09 Requesting new tasks for CPU
8664 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:48:11 Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
8665 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:48:11 No tasks sent
8666 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:48:11 No tasks are available for ATLAS Simulation
8667 LHC@home 09.01.2020 09:48:11 Tasks for AMD/ATI GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
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Message 41272 - Posted: 16 Jan 2020, 4:34:28 UTC

OK

I've deselected all projects except ATLAS

Server Status still shows ~2k tasks available

and I still haven't gotten any WUs in over a week


Do I just need to give up on ATLAS?
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Message 41273 - Posted: 16 Jan 2020, 8:45:42 UTC - in response to Message 41272.  

You may check if "Run native if available?" is set in your web preferences.
If it is set, deselect it and request fresh work.
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Message 41284 - Posted: 16 Jan 2020, 23:00:27 UTC

I FINALLY got sow WUs, first one is 2 1/2 hours in

So far So good


Thanks for all suggestions
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Message 41286 - Posted: 17 Jan 2020, 10:09:58 UTC - in response to Message 41284.  

Do you know what measure solved your problem?
If yes be so kind as to post it here as it may be helpful for other volunteers.


From your logfile:
2020-01-16 12:07:32 (8172): Setting Memory Size for VM. (7500MB)
2020-01-16 12:07:33 (8172): Setting CPU Count for VM. (2)

A 2-core setup requires 3000 + 2 * 900 = 4800 MB RAM.
For some reason (app_config.xml?) your VMs are configured to allocate 7500 MB which wastes roughly 2700 MB.
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Message 41301 - Posted: 18 Jan 2020, 10:34:54 UTC - in response to Message 41286.  

For some reason (app_config.xml?) your VMs are configured to allocate 7500 MB which wastes roughly 2700 MB.
Yes, 7500 set in app_config.xml or in project preferences Max # CPU's set to 5.
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Message 41306 - Posted: 20 Jan 2020, 7:16:11 UTC - in response to Message 41301.  

Thanks for the heads up on the memory size

I'm not sure which change "cured" things, but I deselected both "run native" and "fun test apps"
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