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Message 37586 - Posted: 10 Dec 2018, 15:43:39 UTC

The LHC@home BOINC servers will be upgraded to the latest BOINC server release Tuesday morning at 8AM GMT. BOINC services like upload/download and task validation and assimilation will be paused for about 1 hour during the intervention to update our servers.
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Message 37593 - Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 5:29:53 UTC - in response to Message 37586.  
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Thanks Nils,
now we can see the OS- and Boinc-Versions for the LHC-Project:
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/host_stats.php
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Message 37594 - Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 13:42:50 UTC

In Preferences this must be enabeled manually,
otherwhise no export in BoincStats, FreeDC..
Do you consent to exporting your data to BOINC statistics aggregation Web sites?
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Message 37595 - Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 14:26:02 UTC - in response to Message 37594.  

In Preferences this must be enabeled manually,
otherwhise no export in BoincStats, FreeDC..
Do you consent to exporting your data to BOINC statistics aggregation Web sites?

Oops.
Good hint.
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Message 37596 - Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 4:37:29 UTC

"General terms-of-use for this BOINC project. "

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (From default settings)

What is the function of this checkbox and what are the effects of not putting the X in this box?
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Message 37598 - Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 6:38:55 UTC

Looks like the stats export (all users) didn't work yesterday although I permitted mine at the preferences page.
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Message 37599 - Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 6:54:38 UTC - in response to Message 37596.  

"General terms-of-use for this BOINC project. "

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (From default settings)

What is the function of this checkbox and what are the effects of not putting the X in this box?

When you attach a new host or create a new account you'll have to accept the terms-of-use (TOU).
This is documented at the preferences page.

If you uncheck the box and log out from the webpage you'll have to accept the TOU again at your next login.

I didn't test if my hosts get work while the box is unchecked.
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Message 37602 - Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 14:09:56 UTC
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No "stats export" checkbox on mine, just dashes. So presumably no export either.
If I hover the mouse over the dashes, the "pop up" message appears OK.

The dev project preferences page is is OK.
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Message 37605 - Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 18:29:23 UTC

I ticked the option to export stats but I didn't see anything happening on BOINCStats.
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Message 37606 - Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 18:41:15 UTC - in response to Message 37605.  

Don't know.. Free-DC get points, but something is wrong,
be atm the No. One in Germany, very nice...
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Message 37607 - Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 18:59:14 UTC - in response to Message 37605.  

I ticked the option to export stats but I didn't see anything happening on BOINCStats.

Probably Willy (BOINCstats) has to ask the project admin to get access to both LHC-project databases (*.zips).

Detailed stats LHC@Home
Last update user XML	2018-12-11 07:23:32 UTC (3 days 07:25:26 old)
Last update host XML	2018-12-11 07:23:32 UTC (3 days 07:25:26 old)
Last update team XML	2018-12-14 07:17:14 UTC (07:31:44 old)


Detailed stats LHCathome-dev
Last update user XML	2018-11-14 11:40:09 UTC (30 days 03:59:47 old)
Last update host XML	2018-11-14 11:40:09 UTC (30 days 03:59:47 old)
Last update team XML	2018-12-13 15:15:06 UTC (1 day 00:24:50 old)
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Message 37608 - Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 19:12:37 UTC - in response to Message 37607.  

I emailed Willy and Nils, they can work it out.
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Message 37610 - Posted: 15 Dec 2018, 12:29:50 UTC - in response to Message 37607.  

I ticked the option to export stats but I didn't see anything happening on BOINCStats.

Probably Willy (BOINCstats) has to ask the project admin to get access to both LHC-project databases (*.zips).

Detailed stats LHCathome-dev
Last update user XML	2018-11-14 11:40:09 UTC (30 days 03:59:47 old)
Last update host XML	2018-11-14 11:40:09 UTC (30 days 03:59:47 old)
Last update team XML	2018-12-13 15:15:06 UTC (1 day 00:24:50 old)


In other Projects (f.E. Einstein or Primegrid) is -dev shown as CERN CMS-dev
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Message 37637 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 12:07:10 UTC
Last modified: 18 Dec 2018, 12:07:28 UTC

Hi all

re: "Do you consent to exporting your data to BOINC statistics aggregation Web sites?"

Presumably then, any non-active members who do not tick this box, their individual stats won't be exported anymore?

So, all the stats aggregation websites will only be showing active LHC members and so all non-active members contributions will no longer be included in each teams totals?

That is going to affect many teams rankings in both the project stats as well as the overall Team/Country stats?
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Join the UK BOINC Team: http://www.ukboincteam.org.uk/newforum
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Message 37638 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 13:50:29 UTC - in response to Message 37637.  
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re: "Do you consent to exporting your data to BOINC statistics aggregation Web sites?"

Presumably then, any non-active members who do not tick this box, their individual stats won't be exported anymore?

So, all the stats aggregation websites will only be showing active LHC members and so all non-active members contributions will no longer be included in each teams totals?

That is going to affect many teams rankings in both the project stats as well as the overall Team/Country stats?

That is in accordance with the GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation).
Only users actively agreed by ticking the consent box or during logging in given their permission, should be exported.
Exporting user-data without their permission for the purpose of statistic sites would break the GDPR.
In my opinion the team statistics are not affected.
Thats means that the team total on a statistic site, lets say for today, is not equal to the sum of the members, cause several members did not agree (yet), but their contribution is counted in the team total.
The same was happening with members moving on to another team or quitting from a team.

On the project site itself those users are still visible, cause they are a member, but their data is not available for third parties.
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Message 37640 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 17:14:26 UTC

The stats are back on the BOINCStats website today.
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Message 37641 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 17:33:50 UTC
Last modified: 18 Dec 2018, 17:34:35 UTC

I just stumbled upon this new option, while missing 313k Credits. Why was there no boinc message from the lhc team?
I'm not using this forum everyday.

Just my two cents.
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Message 37642 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 17:46:19 UTC - in response to Message 37641.  

I just stumbled upon this new option, while missing 313k Credits. Why was there no boinc message from the lhc team?
I'm not using this forum everyday.

Just my two cents.

There was and have been sent to your BOINC Manager Notices: https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=4901&postid=37586
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Message 37643 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 18:12:59 UTC

I agree, I got the message about a server upgrade, but there was no hint for the gpdr setting....
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Message 37644 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 18:57:17 UTC - in response to Message 37640.  

The stats are back on the BOINCStats website today.

And total 217 users are shown to have credits.
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