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Message 37378 - Posted: 19 Nov 2018, 15:26:59 UTC

Dear BOINC Volunteers,

LHCb has been very grateful to the BOINC community in the past years for their support and provisioning of computing resources to run LHCb simulation jobs. Since the start of the service for LHCb you have provided computing resources that allowed us to execute a fantastic amount of 3.1 Million successful jobs which simulated 142'740'087 events. This work considerably contributed to the work of the experiment. Many thanks to you all !!!

Despite this success we have also observed that the work in connection to BOINC operations has grown in the past within the LHCb computing project and after internal discussions we have decided to pause the operations of the service and therefore not to run LHCb applications via BOINC for the time being with the possibility to re-open the service in the future.

Please note that the possibility to contribute computing resources to other BOINC projects stays untouched by this decision and we would like to encourage you to continue supporting also the other projects represented via the LHC@home BOINC service.

For now I would like to re-state my thanks to you, the BOINC community, for your support.

Best regards

Dr. Stefan Roiser
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Message 37384 - Posted: 20 Nov 2018, 14:12:14 UTC - in response to Message 37378.  

I don't understand the "Despite this success we have also observed that the work in connection to BOINC operations has grown in the past within the LHCb computing project".
Could you clarify ?
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Message 37386 - Posted: 20 Nov 2018, 15:01:47 UTC - in response to Message 37384.  

Dear vigillian,

for running the BOINC service within LHCb we need to maintain a dedicated parallel infrastructure. This is mostly due to security reasons as there needs to be a different trust relationship with BOINC provided than for other resources. We have observed that the cost of operating and entertaining this parallel infrastructure is relatively high compared to our main infrastructure. For this reason we would like to reconsider how to operate BOINC from within LHCb computing and until then pause the service.

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Message 37387 - Posted: 20 Nov 2018, 16:09:15 UTC - in response to Message 37386.  

okey that's more clear than the first message, at least to me.
Thanks for the precision :)
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Message 37388 - Posted: 20 Nov 2018, 17:25:45 UTC - in response to Message 37387.  

on the other hand, it's really too bad that - like in so many other cases all around in our life - the reason for suspending (or maybe stopping at all) LHCb under BOINC was a monetary one :-(
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Message 37391 - Posted: 20 Nov 2018, 21:50:38 UTC

Well, I had fun trying to contribute with my tasks. It was easier than flunking all my math & science courses in school..

cheers&success!

dan
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Message 37393 - Posted: 21 Nov 2018, 4:52:35 UTC - in response to Message 37378.  

Just confirming, LHCb only and not the others, Sixtrack, Atlas and Theory?
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Message 37394 - Posted: 21 Nov 2018, 5:36:07 UTC - in response to Message 37393.  

Gary Charpentier wrote:
Just confirming, LHCb only and not the others, Sixtrack, Atlas and Theory?

Thread Title: Pausing submission of LHCb Applications
rossi wrote:
... Please note that the possibility to contribute computing resources to other BOINC projects stays untouched by this decision and we would like to encourage you to continue supporting also the other projects represented via the LHC@home BOINC service.
...
Dr. Stefan Roiser
LHCb Computing Project Leader
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Message 37426 - Posted: 24 Nov 2018, 9:11:10 UTC - in response to Message 37378.  
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I am a bit confused here... on the other hand, I don't read the news carefully...
One application is down, but other are working, or what?

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Message 37428 - Posted: 24 Nov 2018, 10:25:57 UTC - in response to Message 37426.  

One application is down, but other are working, or what?
At the momet there's work for SixTrack, Theory (VBox) and ATLAS (VBox and Linux native)
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