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AuxRx

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Message 34008 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 10:57:57 UTC

I am noticing a peak in results that are either marked "Validation inconclusive" or "Validate error" for my system and different wing-systems. Over the past weeks I have been monitoring 2 such tasks, today there were 3 more. In the past some errors were attributed to my system, some to the other system.

I am not aware of an error. The logs are clean. Run times are plausible.

A) Is this in any way connected to recent upload issues?

B) Does this indicate a stability issue on my side?

How should I proceed?
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Message 34010 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 11:24:58 UTC - in response to Message 34008.  

Yes, I sure have seen that too!

Until yesterday I've crunched well over 1000 tasks, and this without one single "invalid" or "Validation inconclusive"! :-)
And now, when I woke up this morning, I found that I've reached 17 Invalids, and have 6 more tasks in "Validation inconclusive"!!! :-(

These faults seems to be rather evenly spread between nearly all of my 14 computers, so this is NOT one single machine that got weird.
I've also noticed a new peak in problem with uploading tasks - sigh.

Maybe the databases need a thorough clean-up, and the servers a good old fashioned reboot! ;-)

//Gunnar
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Message 34011 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 11:33:11 UTC - in response to Message 34008.  

... How should I proceed?

You may provide links to the relevant WUs and also make your computers visible in your LHC@home preferences.
This would make it easier or even possible to help you.
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Message 34012 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 12:25:52 UTC - in response to Message 34011.  

Hi!

Here are my invalids (grown to 20 the last hour):

https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=173348129
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=173348131
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=173348504
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=173348539
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=173345228
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=173288516
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=173286246
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=173272250
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=173259482
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=173256426
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=173240166
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=173223712
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=173213720
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=173203471
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=173203481
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=173199914
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=173178095
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=173166842
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=173145455
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=173115913

I think my computers should be visible, otherwise pls notify me.
Hope you can get something out of it! :-)

Have a nice day!!!

//Gunnar
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Message 34013 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 12:31:20 UTC - in response to Message 34010.  

I've also noticed a new peak in problem with uploading tasks - sigh.
here it always says "project servers may be temporarily down". Which might mean that someone out there is working on it, or the whole system broke down.

Maybe the databases need a thorough clean-up, and the servers a good old fashioned reboot! ;-)
//Gunnar
well, given the fact that all kinds of problems startet already Mid-December, I am wonderung why still so many WUs are pumped into the mills, although they should know better by know.
To me, by now, much seems to be rather dis-organised :-(
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Message 34014 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 12:59:26 UTC - in response to Message 34011.  
Last modified: 21 Jan 2018, 13:07:05 UTC

Some exemplary WUs were provided by Gunnar (Thanks!).

The log is, as I said, clean. If you need specific information or need me to run some tests, I'll be glad to comply with requests.
<core_client_version>7.6.31</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
02:05:46 (14484): called boinc_finish(0)

</stderr_txt>
]]>


EDIT: Affected are w-c3_job.B1inj, workspace1_hl13_collision_scan and w-c1_job.B1inj WUs.
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Message 34023 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 9:43:12 UTC - in response to Message 34014.  

I fear that those results were affected by some upload issues (not necessarily due to the NFS hiccups of last weeks), as they appear to be of zero size in the upload area.
Indeed, the validator tried to parse them to proceed with validation, and not a single line or number was found, immediately marking them with "validation error".
I am terribly sorry for that, as we talk about a good bunch of hours of crunching results
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Message 34026 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 10:56:29 UTC - in response to Message 34023.  

Thank you for you quick response, Alessio.
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