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Message 34503 - Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 0:22:02 UTC - in response to Message 34502.  

If you run a separate BOINC client instance for ATLAS (native)...

Do you have a good (i.e., simple) way of setting up two BOINC instances? Is it stable? Can you post it?
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Message 34507 - Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 11:21:50 UTC - in response to Message 34503.  

If you run a separate BOINC client instance for ATLAS (native)...

Do you have a good (i.e., simple) way of setting up two BOINC instances? Is it stable? Can you post it?

This has been mentioned here:
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=4297&postid=30603

and here:
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=4297&postid=30810


Simple?
No, you'll have to work around some pitfalls.
Otherwise you would crash your main instance.

Stable?
Yes, once it is set up.
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Message 34508 - Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 11:36:54 UTC - in response to Message 34501.  

Finally received native_mt! Thank you for your support, when I began questioning my sanity.

As to what finally did the trick, I have no idea. The last thing I changed was resetting the "run test applications" in my account preferences and rebooting. Maybe I'll try reproducing the issue, but atm I'll try running it for a couple of days.
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Message 34509 - Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 15:55:12 UTC - in response to Message 34508.  

As to what finally did the trick, I have no idea. The last thing I changed was resetting the "run test applications" in my account preferences and rebooting. Maybe I'll try reproducing the issue, but atm I'll try running it for a couple of days.

I don't think it is on your end. I haven't received native ATLAS for several days. Then, it will probably go several days with only native ones.
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Message 34510 - Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 15:56:42 UTC - in response to Message 34507.  

Thanks. One of these days, when I get desperate enough, I will give multiple BOINC instances a try.
I keep hoping that they will include that functionality themselves, but not likely now.
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Message 34516 - Posted: 1 Mar 2018, 2:12:38 UTC - in response to Message 34503.  
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If you run a separate BOINC client instance for ATLAS (native)...

Do you have a good (i.e., simple) way of setting up two BOINC instances? Is it stable? Can you post it?


I made a guide on my home forum on how to do it in Window and Linux. Easier then setting up the native client I believe:
http://www.overclock.net/forum/365-overclock-net-boinc-team/1628924-guide-setting-up-multiple-boinc-instances.html
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Message 34517 - Posted: 1 Mar 2018, 2:52:12 UTC - in response to Message 34516.  

I made a guide on my home forum on how to do it in Window and Linux. Easier then setting up the native client I believe:
http://www.overclock.net/forum/365-overclock-net-boinc-team/1628924-guide-setting-up-multiple-boinc-instances.html

There are times when I really need it, as when trying to run CPU and GPU projects with different buffer settings. I will use the Linux version, and have to create “gui_rpc_auth.cfg” and place it in the /etc/boinc-client folder (for Ubuntu) in order to connect with BoincTasks over the LAN. I notice that you refer to a "/var/lib/rpc_gui_auth.cfg" file. Is that the correct name? I don't know if they are really the same file or not.

Thanks.
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Message 34519 - Posted: 1 Mar 2018, 11:15:01 UTC - in response to Message 34517.  
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I made a guide on my home forum on how to do it in Window and Linux. Easier then setting up the native client I believe:
http://www.overclock.net/forum/365-overclock-net-boinc-team/1628924-guide-setting-up-multiple-boinc-instances.html

There are times when I really need it, as when trying to run CPU and GPU projects with different buffer settings. I will use the Linux version, and have to create “gui_rpc_auth.cfg” and place it in the /etc/boinc-client folder (for Ubuntu) in order to connect with BoincTasks over the LAN. I notice that you refer to a "/var/lib/rpc_gui_auth.cfg" file. Is that the correct name? I don't know if they are really the same file or not.

Thanks.


Nope, you're right. I just swapped it around. Thanks for catching it. I've updated the guide.

The code lines look like crap now after the forum update to vB. :(

I also use it for running GPUs on another client to make it easier to manage. Also helpful keeping the CPU busy when mt or vbox tasks don't use a whole CPU thread.
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Message 34599 - Posted: 12 Mar 2018, 18:19:45 UTC

I haven't gotten any native ATLAS for well over a week. Maybe they are doing only the VBox versions?
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Message 34600 - Posted: 12 Mar 2018, 19:12:58 UTC - in response to Message 34599.  

I haven't gotten any native ATLAS for well over a week. Maybe they are doing only the VBox versions?

Work for ATLAS (native) and (vbox ...) comes from the same pool.
As long as you get any work and you allow beta apps, it depends on your local settings which app your hosts will run.

I guess there is simply no work in the queue whenever your hosts contact the server.
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Message 34601 - Posted: 12 Mar 2018, 20:26:28 UTC - in response to Message 34600.  

I think the problem was that I had disabled the test applications. Thanks for the reminder. I should be getting something before long.
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Message 34610 - Posted: 13 Mar 2018, 8:39:06 UTC - in response to Message 34374.  

The slot numbers in Boinc-manager are growing up.
They where all empty (only the folder), but NOT deleted.


Have one Computer with native-App and 32 empty slot-folder.
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Message 34650 - Posted: 14 Mar 2018, 22:01:48 UTC

How do I NOT receive the native app? Run test applications is unchecked yet I received native apps on computers with separate locations. Going to have to unselect Atlas all together.
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Message 34660 - Posted: 15 Mar 2018, 7:38:24 UTC

Wouldn't it be time to add the native app to the app list and spend an additional checkbox for it as it has already been requested by a couple of volunteers?
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Message 34711 - Posted: 21 Mar 2018, 18:39:37 UTC - in response to Message 34660.  
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Wouldn't it be time to add the native app to the app list and spend an additional checkbox for it as it has already been requested by a couple of volunteers?

Is now there in the app list. :-))
Thank you Atlas-Team.
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Message 34723 - Posted: 24 Mar 2018, 18:44:09 UTC - in response to Message 34711.  

Wouldn't it be time to add the native app to the app list and spend an additional checkbox for it as it has already been requested by a couple of volunteers?

Is now there in the app list. :-))
Thank you Atlas-Team.

I think the request was to have it in the preferences as it's own app

Run only the selected applications SixTrack: yes
sixtracktest: yes
CMS Simulation: yes
LHCb Simulation: yes
Theory Simulation: yes
ATLAS Simulation: yes
ALICE Simulation: yes
Benchmark Application: yes

Add Native ATLAS as an option.
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Message 34738 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 22:02:16 UTC

Wow I never realized how great the native app is.

I'm able to run more WU's than I normally would have ram for (using vbox).

Somehow running (9) 8 core units on only 32 GB of ram. Crazy.

Wish I would have done this earlier.
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Message 34758 - Posted: 27 Mar 2018, 14:42:11 UTC

This WU is finishing on TWO Computer:
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/workunit.php?wuid=90655303
On my Computer was running a second time because of a Computer-Crash last night.
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Message 34988 - Posted: 13 Apr 2018, 14:51:48 UTC - in response to Message 34711.  

Wouldn't it be time to add the native app to the app list and spend an additional checkbox for it as it has already been requested by a couple of volunteers?

Is now there in the app list. :-))
Thank you Atlas-Team.


The native-App stats is lost from the Application-page.
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Message 34989 - Posted: 13 Apr 2018, 15:00:29 UTC - in response to Message 34988.  

The native-App stats is lost from the Application-page.

May be due to the version change earlier today although the new version was in the list short after the announcement.
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