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Message 31813 - Posted: 4 Aug 2017, 17:52:48 UTC

I have been a member of LHC@Home since Feb 2017, but only have been able to process 4 work units. Not sure if this is the same problem as the "SixTrack Tasks," but I'm posting my info here to see if it helps me acquire more work units.

I've looked for instructions on how to find the "client logging report," but a search of your site and BOINC help revealed no info, so I don't know how to show it to you.

I guess if you want me to process data for you, I'll need some help and direction.

Thank you.

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Message 31814 - Posted: 4 Aug 2017, 20:19:58 UTC - in response to Message 31813.  

I have been a member of LHC@Home since Feb 2017, but only have been able to process 4 work units. Not sure if this is the same problem as the "SixTrack Tasks," but I'm posting my info here to see if it helps me acquire more work units.

I've looked for instructions on how to find the "client logging report," but a search of your site and BOINC help revealed no info, so I don't know how to show it to you.

I guess if you want me to process data for you, I'll need some help and direction.

Thank you.

--Renata


At the top of the Boinc Manage page click on *Tools* and then *Event Log*

That is a good start to see if you are actually asking for work and what projects you might have asking for work.

And at the left side of the Boinc Manager *Projects* is where you do updates and ask for work.

On your LHC account page it has nothing listed so we can't tell what your computer is doing.
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Message 31815 - Posted: 4 Aug 2017, 21:17:57 UTC - in response to Message 31813.  

I have been a member of LHC@Home since Feb 2017, but only have been able to process 4 work units. Not sure if this is the same problem as the "SixTrack Tasks," but I'm posting my info here to see if it helps me acquire more work units.

I've looked for instructions on how to find the "client logging report," but a search of your site and BOINC help revealed no info, so I don't know how to show it to you.

I guess if you want me to process data for you, I'll need some help and direction.

Thank you.

--Renata

Hi Renata,

Your computer seems to be a MAC.
According to the applications overview sixtrack does unfortunately not provide a MAC version.
Probably in the future so you may check it regularly.

Nonetheless lhc@home supports MAC versions for vbox apps.
Feel free to try one of them.
I would suggest to start with Theory Simulation as it has less resource requirements than the others.
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Message 31817 - Posted: 5 Aug 2017, 3:11:33 UTC - in response to Message 31812.  

Hi Tullio,
I could find 4 machine of yours:
- https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/results.php?hostid=10464329 - windows - 1 6T task, of reasonable CPU time (given the title, I can guess what it is about);
- https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/results.php?hostid=10492633 - Linux - 1 6T task, error while downloading - have you re-tried to ask for new work?
- https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/results.php?hostid=10492932 - Linux - 1 6T task, on-going;
- https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/results.php?hostid=10454176 - Linux - a few 6T tasks, with the way large CPU times. This is really weird... Any mis-configuration?

I have only 3 computers, a SUN 2008 vintage running OpenSuse Linux Leap 42.2, a HP Laptop also running SuSE Linux and a Windows 10 PC, my latest machine. I had to reinstall SuSE Leap 42.2 on the laptop after a system crash, so it seems to be a new machine. But all LHC tasks except SixTrack fail on all 3 for unknown reasons.
I am sorry for this, because I was an Alpha tester of Test4Theory@home on invitation by Ben Segal after I had written on a message board about a Solaris Virtual Machine I had installed on the SUN workstation. I had received a letter of thanks from him.
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Message 31823 - Posted: 5 Aug 2017, 7:46:39 UTC - in response to Message 31812.  

- https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/results.php?hostid=10454176 - Linux - a few 6T tasks, with the way large CPU times. This is really weird... Any mis-configuration?

These runtimes seem to me rather normal for an AMD E-450 processor.
About the 5th of the speed of an i5 3rd generation.

Also that machine got 2 tasks with SSE2 support and 2 without. The latter are still in progress. Due 6 Aug 2017, 2:24:54 UTC.
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Message 31825 - Posted: 5 Aug 2017, 8:24:27 UTC - in response to Message 31807.  
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I don't understand why the completed task does not figure in the summary per app version:
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/host_app_versions.php?hostid=10491448

(see SixTrack 451.07 x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
I mean, it says 1 "consecutive valid tasks" but the "number of tasks completed" is 0...

Other entries in that table do not seem to by fully consistent...


This Computer was new build at 17/7/24 (OpenSuse 42.2)
The old one (OpenSuse 13.2) was merged in Computerlist, because of identical Processor and Computername.

This can explain why the table is empty.
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Message 31826 - Posted: 5 Aug 2017, 8:44:24 UTC - in response to Message 31825.  

The old one ... was merged in Computerlist

The E-450 computers are not yet merged.
Otherwise only 1 of them would appear in the list.
The merge has to be initiated by clicking the link on the computer details page.
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Message 31827 - Posted: 5 Aug 2017, 8:50:09 UTC - in response to Message 31823.  


These runtimes seem to me rather normal for an AMD E-450 processor.
About the 5th of the speed of an i5 3rd generation.

Also that machine got 2 tasks with SSE2 support and 2 without. The latter are still in progress. Due 6 Aug 2017, 2:24:54 UTC.

They were killed when I had to reinstall the OS on the E450 PC. I have only one LHC@home tasks now running on the Windows 10 PC. It is a LHCb simulation but it is not doing anything. CPU usage is close to zero. I am letting it to run in the hope of getting some credits.
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Message 31828 - Posted: 5 Aug 2017, 9:12:23 UTC - in response to Message 31825.  

I have vainly tried to install SuSE Leap 42.3 on my E-450 PC. I had installed Tumbleweed, but its kernel is 4.10 and Einstein@home would not run on it. So I came back to good old 42.2.
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Message 31836 - Posted: 6 Aug 2017, 9:37:44 UTC - in response to Message 31806.  

That's terrible! This was supposed to be solved.
I'll report it AGAIN! Eric.

Duration-time 13k seconds (Windows) against 160k (Linux):


Microsoft Windows (98 or later) running on an Intel x86-compatible CPU 451.07 1,397 GigaFLOPS
Microsoft Windows running on an AMD x86_64 or Intel EM64T CPU 451.07 1,229 GigaFLOPS
Linux running on an Intel x86-compatible CPU 451.07 43 GigaFLOPS
Linux running on an AMD x86_64 or Intel EM64T CPU 451.07 165 GigaFLOPS

This are the Server-stats for sixtrack-tasks without sse2, sse3 and pni.

Have one task with OpenSuse 42.3 in the moment without sse2, sse3 and pni running for more than 48 hours.

Is it possible to eliminate the applications 451.07 without sse2, sse3 or pni to get more power to sixtrack?
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Message 31840 - Posted: 6 Aug 2017, 13:23:07 UTC - in response to Message 31836.  

Well it should NOT be necessary to eliminate the non-SSE. I pride myself
on being all inclusive. It should be better very soon as the 64-bit versions
will be SSE or AVX only. As of today we just run 32-bit versions on all platforms.
I'll try and have a look myself. There is NO logical reason to run the "old" non-SSE
versions except on ancient P3 etc!
Eric.

That's terrible! This was supposed to be solved.
I'll report it AGAIN! Eric.

Duration-time 13k seconds (Windows) against 160k (Linux):


Microsoft Windows (98 or later) running on an Intel x86-compatible CPU 451.07 1,397 GigaFLOPS
Microsoft Windows running on an AMD x86_64 or Intel EM64T CPU 451.07 1,229 GigaFLOPS
Linux running on an Intel x86-compatible CPU 451.07 43 GigaFLOPS
Linux running on an AMD x86_64 or Intel EM64T CPU 451.07 165 GigaFLOPS

This are the Server-stats for sixtrack-tasks without sse2, sse3 and pni.

Have one task with OpenSuse 42.3 in the moment without sse2, sse3 and pni running for more than 48 hours.

Is it possible to eliminate the applications 451.07 without sse2, sse3 or pni to get more power to sixtrack?

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Message 31851 - Posted: 7 Aug 2017, 2:19:15 UTC

Ah... the mention of new 64 bit apps ? What we are running now for 6 Track is all from 2014.

Dare we ask how soon will the new App's be released ?

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Message 31852 - Posted: 7 Aug 2017, 5:18:05 UTC
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I am running the 64-bit app sse2 on my Linux laptop. 4 are waiting validation, 1 64-bit and 3 32-bit.
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Message 31853 - Posted: 7 Aug 2017, 5:28:09 UTC

Had last night also the first four sixtracktest Linux x64(sse2)-successful.
Waiting for the windows wingman.
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Message 31854 - Posted: 7 Aug 2017, 6:00:56 UTC
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tullio wrote:
I am running the 64-bit app sse2 on my Linux laptop. 4 are waiting validation, 1 64-bit and 3 32-bit.
Tullio


maeax wrote:
Had last night also the first four sixtracktest Linux x64(sse2)-successful.
Waiting for the windows wingman.


Sorry to disappoint you but the 64bit app is not what it looks like, at least the linux version.

> file sixtrack_lin64_4517_gen.linux
sixtrack_lin64_4517_gen.linux: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildID[sha1]=3f3257bfc4f3fe040c2648661123e85faa003ca4, not stripped

> file sixtrack_lin64_4517_pni.linux
sixtrack_lin64_4517_pni.linux: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildID[sha1]=b42e105d3abfa5c510f49b725ce1647140763030, not stripped

> file sixtrack_lin64_4517_sse2.linux
sixtrack_lin64_4517_sse2.linux: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildID[sha1]=f421c2e66bd497329337d2e2d49f409753df4e51, not stripped


<edit>Ah, sorry maeax. Just noticed that you ran a few sixtracktest.
Be so kind as to check the executable with:
file name_of_executable
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Message 31855 - Posted: 7 Aug 2017, 6:16:30 UTC - in response to Message 31851.  

Well may you ask! I hope we shall release in a few weeks (best guess, and I
am in principle an optimist).

We are currently testing extensively on "sixtracktest". I myself
submitted a few thousand cases yesterday. The current (not yet final)
version under test is v46.15 as against v451.07 from 2014!

The first problem was the end of Windows XP at CERN. I could never build
on Windows 7, never mind Windows 10, using cygwin. My young colleagues
now have a superb build system which includes Macs, ARM, and IBM P8/9.
Subsequent problems with gcc and ifort have been solved, and I myself am
now optimising to get the last few percent of performance.

We are very eager to introduce as there is a lot of new "physics" and functionality.
However we must test very thoroughly as there are millions of hours of your
CPU time at stake. There are also far too many infrastructure problems, not
forgetting the BIOS/Hyper Threading problem, which might go away :-) as we are
now using gfortran rather than Intel ifort. More news when I can, along with some
report on testing progress. Eric.

The current list of available executables is (but I see my old friend 32-bit Pentium 3/no SSE
is missing):

sixtracktest_aarch_lin64_4615_avx.linux: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, for GNU/Linux 3.7.0, not stripped
sixtracktest_aarch_lin64_4615_sse2.linux: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, for GNU/Linux 3.7.0, not stripped
sixtracktest_darwin_4615_avx.exe: Mach-O 64-bit executable
sixtracktest_darwin_4615_gen.exe: Mach-O 64-bit executable
sixtracktest_freeBSD64_4615_avx.exe: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), statically linked, for FreeBSD 11.0 (1100122), FreeBSD-style, not stripped
sixtracktest_freeBSD64_4615_sse2.exe: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), statically linked, for FreeBSD 11.0 (1100122), FreeBSD-style, not stripped
sixtracktest_lin32_4615_sse2.linux: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, not stripped
sixtracktest_lin64_4615_avx.linux: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, not stripped
sixtracktest_lin64_4615_sse2.linux: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, not stripped
sixtracktest_netBSD64_4615_avx.exe: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, for NetBSD 7.0.2, not stripped
sixtracktest_netBSD64_4615_sse2.exe: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, for NetBSD 7.0.2, not stripped
sixtracktest_win32_4615_sse2.exe: PE32 executable for MS Windows (console) Intel 80386 32-bit
sixtracktest_win64_4615_avx.exe: PE32+ executable for MS Windows (console) Mono/.Net assembly
sixtracktest_win64_4615_sse2.exe: PE32+ executable for MS Windows (console) Mono/.Net assembly

Ah... the mention of new 64 bit apps ? What we are running now for 6 Track is all from 2014.

Dare we ask how soon will the new App's be released ?

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Message 31856 - Posted: 7 Aug 2017, 6:19:29 UTC - in response to Message 31854.  

The 32-bit versions you quote are for production not test??????? Eric.

tullio wrote:
I am running the 64-bit app sse2 on my Linux laptop. 4 are waiting validation, 1 64-bit and 3 32-bit.
Tullio


maeax wrote:
Had last night also the first four sixtracktest Linux x64(sse2)-successful.
Waiting for the windows wingman.


Sorry to disappoint you but the 64bit app is not what it looks like, at least the linux version.

> file sixtrack_lin64_4517_gen.linux
sixtrack_lin64_4517_gen.linux: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildID[sha1]=3f3257bfc4f3fe040c2648661123e85faa003ca4, not stripped

> file sixtrack_lin64_4517_pni.linux
sixtrack_lin64_4517_pni.linux: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildID[sha1]=b42e105d3abfa5c510f49b725ce1647140763030, not stripped

> file sixtrack_lin64_4517_sse2.linux
sixtrack_lin64_4517_sse2.linux: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildID[sha1]=f421c2e66bd497329337d2e2d49f409753df4e51, not stripped


Ah, sorry maeax. Just noticed that you ran a few sixtracktest.
Be so kind as to check the executable with:
file name_of_executable

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Message 31857 - Posted: 7 Aug 2017, 6:26:47 UTC - in response to Message 31856.  

The 32-bit versions you quote are for production not test??????? Eric.

Yes. Shame.
I edited my post but you were too fast.
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Message 31858 - Posted: 7 Aug 2017, 6:30:35 UTC

Testing so far; actually have 2 validated results, but 17 errors.
The errors look like infrastructure, many can't download the
input files or "couldn't start app: CreateProcess() failed - "
on Windows. Eric.
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Message 31859 - Posted: 7 Aug 2017, 6:53:57 UTC
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sixtrack-production task with 243k seconds duration with Linux (451.07)!
is this a record?
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