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Send message Joined: 1 Feb 17 Posts: 1 Credit: 13,936 RAC: 0 |
I have been a member of LHC@Home since Feb 2017, but only have been able to process 4 work units. Not sure if this is the same problem as the "SixTrack Tasks," but I'm posting my info here to see if it helps me acquire more work units. I've looked for instructions on how to find the "client logging report," but a search of your site and BOINC help revealed no info, so I don't know how to show it to you. I guess if you want me to process data for you, I'll need some help and direction. Thank you. --Renata |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 24 Oct 04 Posts: 1153 Credit: 50,694,042 RAC: 18,249 ![]() ![]() |
I have been a member of LHC@Home since Feb 2017, but only have been able to process 4 work units. Not sure if this is the same problem as the "SixTrack Tasks," but I'm posting my info here to see if it helps me acquire more work units. At the top of the Boinc Manage page click on *Tools* and then *Event Log* That is a good start to see if you are actually asking for work and what projects you might have asking for work. And at the left side of the Boinc Manager *Projects* is where you do updates and ask for work. On your LHC account page it has nothing listed so we can't tell what your computer is doing. Volunteer Mad Scientist For Life |
![]() Send message Joined: 15 Jun 08 Posts: 2471 Credit: 243,686,456 RAC: 161,637 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I have been a member of LHC@Home since Feb 2017, but only have been able to process 4 work units. Not sure if this is the same problem as the "SixTrack Tasks," but I'm posting my info here to see if it helps me acquire more work units. Hi Renata, Your computer seems to be a MAC. According to the applications overview sixtrack does unfortunately not provide a MAC version. Probably in the future so you may check it regularly. Nonetheless lhc@home supports MAC versions for vbox apps. Feel free to try one of them. I would suggest to start with Theory Simulation as it has less resource requirements than the others. |
Send message Joined: 19 Feb 08 Posts: 708 Credit: 4,336,250 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
Hi Tullio, I have only 3 computers, a SUN 2008 vintage running OpenSuse Linux Leap 42.2, a HP Laptop also running SuSE Linux and a Windows 10 PC, my latest machine. I had to reinstall SuSE Leap 42.2 on the laptop after a system crash, so it seems to be a new machine. But all LHC tasks except SixTrack fail on all 3 for unknown reasons. I am sorry for this, because I was an Alpha tester of Test4Theory@home on invitation by Ben Segal after I had written on a message board about a Solaris Virtual Machine I had installed on the SUN workstation. I had received a letter of thanks from him. Tullio |
Send message Joined: 14 Jan 10 Posts: 1341 Credit: 8,941,081 RAC: 5,202 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
- https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/results.php?hostid=10454176 - Linux - a few 6T tasks, with the way large CPU times. This is really weird... Any mis-configuration? These runtimes seem to me rather normal for an AMD E-450 processor. About the 5th of the speed of an i5 3rd generation. Also that machine got 2 tasks with SSE2 support and 2 without. The latter are still in progress. Due 6 Aug 2017, 2:24:54 UTC. |
Send message Joined: 2 May 07 Posts: 2174 Credit: 170,003,412 RAC: 110,781 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I don't understand why the completed task does not figure in the summary per app version: This Computer was new build at 17/7/24 (OpenSuse 42.2) The old one (OpenSuse 13.2) was merged in Computerlist, because of identical Processor and Computername. This can explain why the table is empty. |
![]() Send message Joined: 15 Jun 08 Posts: 2471 Credit: 243,686,456 RAC: 161,637 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The old one ... was merged in Computerlist The E-450 computers are not yet merged. Otherwise only 1 of them would appear in the list. The merge has to be initiated by clicking the link on the computer details page. |
Send message Joined: 19 Feb 08 Posts: 708 Credit: 4,336,250 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
They were killed when I had to reinstall the OS on the E450 PC. I have only one LHC@home tasks now running on the Windows 10 PC. It is a LHCb simulation but it is not doing anything. CPU usage is close to zero. I am letting it to run in the hope of getting some credits. Tullio |
Send message Joined: 19 Feb 08 Posts: 708 Credit: 4,336,250 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
I have vainly tried to install SuSE Leap 42.3 on my E-450 PC. I had installed Tumbleweed, but its kernel is 4.10 and Einstein@home would not run on it. So I came back to good old 42.2. Tullio |
Send message Joined: 2 May 07 Posts: 2174 Credit: 170,003,412 RAC: 110,781 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
That's terrible! This was supposed to be solved. Duration-time 13k seconds (Windows) against 160k (Linux): Microsoft Windows (98 or later) running on an Intel x86-compatible CPU 451.07 1,397 GigaFLOPS Microsoft Windows running on an AMD x86_64 or Intel EM64T CPU 451.07 1,229 GigaFLOPS Linux running on an Intel x86-compatible CPU 451.07 43 GigaFLOPS Linux running on an AMD x86_64 or Intel EM64T CPU 451.07 165 GigaFLOPS This are the Server-stats for sixtrack-tasks without sse2, sse3 and pni. Have one task with OpenSuse 42.3 in the moment without sse2, sse3 and pni running for more than 48 hours. Is it possible to eliminate the applications 451.07 without sse2, sse3 or pni to get more power to sixtrack? |
Send message Joined: 12 Jul 11 Posts: 857 Credit: 1,619,050 RAC: 0 |
Well it should NOT be necessary to eliminate the non-SSE. I pride myself on being all inclusive. It should be better very soon as the 64-bit versions will be SSE or AVX only. As of today we just run 32-bit versions on all platforms. I'll try and have a look myself. There is NO logical reason to run the "old" non-SSE versions except on ancient P3 etc! Eric. That's terrible! This was supposed to be solved. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 2 Jun 07 Posts: 34 Credit: 1,583,519 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
Ah... the mention of new 64 bit apps ? What we are running now for 6 Track is all from 2014. Dare we ask how soon will the new App's be released ? Bill F. In October 1969 I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; There was no expiration date. ![]() |
Send message Joined: 19 Feb 08 Posts: 708 Credit: 4,336,250 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
I am running the 64-bit app sse2 on my Linux laptop. 4 are waiting validation, 1 64-bit and 3 32-bit. Tullio |
Send message Joined: 2 May 07 Posts: 2174 Credit: 170,003,412 RAC: 110,781 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Had last night also the first four sixtracktest Linux x64(sse2)-successful. Waiting for the windows wingman. |
![]() Send message Joined: 15 Jun 08 Posts: 2471 Credit: 243,686,456 RAC: 161,637 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
tullio wrote: I am running the 64-bit app sse2 on my Linux laptop. 4 are waiting validation, 1 64-bit and 3 32-bit. maeax wrote: Had last night also the first four sixtracktest Linux x64(sse2)-successful. Sorry to disappoint you but the 64bit app is not what it looks like, at least the linux version. > file sixtrack_lin64_4517_gen.linux <edit>Ah, sorry maeax. Just noticed that you ran a few sixtracktest. Be so kind as to check the executable with: file name_of_executable </edit> |
Send message Joined: 12 Jul 11 Posts: 857 Credit: 1,619,050 RAC: 0 |
Well may you ask! I hope we shall release in a few weeks (best guess, and I am in principle an optimist). We are currently testing extensively on "sixtracktest". I myself submitted a few thousand cases yesterday. The current (not yet final) version under test is v46.15 as against v451.07 from 2014! The first problem was the end of Windows XP at CERN. I could never build on Windows 7, never mind Windows 10, using cygwin. My young colleagues now have a superb build system which includes Macs, ARM, and IBM P8/9. Subsequent problems with gcc and ifort have been solved, and I myself am now optimising to get the last few percent of performance. We are very eager to introduce as there is a lot of new "physics" and functionality. However we must test very thoroughly as there are millions of hours of your CPU time at stake. There are also far too many infrastructure problems, not forgetting the BIOS/Hyper Threading problem, which might go away :-) as we are now using gfortran rather than Intel ifort. More news when I can, along with some report on testing progress. Eric. The current list of available executables is (but I see my old friend 32-bit Pentium 3/no SSE is missing): sixtracktest_aarch_lin64_4615_avx.linux: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, for GNU/Linux 3.7.0, not stripped sixtracktest_aarch_lin64_4615_sse2.linux: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, for GNU/Linux 3.7.0, not stripped sixtracktest_darwin_4615_avx.exe: Mach-O 64-bit executable sixtracktest_darwin_4615_gen.exe: Mach-O 64-bit executable sixtracktest_freeBSD64_4615_avx.exe: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), statically linked, for FreeBSD 11.0 (1100122), FreeBSD-style, not stripped sixtracktest_freeBSD64_4615_sse2.exe: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), statically linked, for FreeBSD 11.0 (1100122), FreeBSD-style, not stripped sixtracktest_lin32_4615_sse2.linux: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, not stripped sixtracktest_lin64_4615_avx.linux: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, not stripped sixtracktest_lin64_4615_sse2.linux: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, not stripped sixtracktest_netBSD64_4615_avx.exe: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, for NetBSD 7.0.2, not stripped sixtracktest_netBSD64_4615_sse2.exe: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, for NetBSD 7.0.2, not stripped sixtracktest_win32_4615_sse2.exe: PE32 executable for MS Windows (console) Intel 80386 32-bit sixtracktest_win64_4615_avx.exe: PE32+ executable for MS Windows (console) Mono/.Net assembly sixtracktest_win64_4615_sse2.exe: PE32+ executable for MS Windows (console) Mono/.Net assembly Ah... the mention of new 64 bit apps ? What we are running now for 6 Track is all from 2014. |
Send message Joined: 12 Jul 11 Posts: 857 Credit: 1,619,050 RAC: 0 |
The 32-bit versions you quote are for production not test??????? Eric. tullio wrote:I am running the 64-bit app sse2 on my Linux laptop. 4 are waiting validation, 1 64-bit and 3 32-bit. |
![]() Send message Joined: 15 Jun 08 Posts: 2471 Credit: 243,686,456 RAC: 161,637 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The 32-bit versions you quote are for production not test??????? Eric. Yes. Shame. I edited my post but you were too fast. |
Send message Joined: 12 Jul 11 Posts: 857 Credit: 1,619,050 RAC: 0 |
Testing so far; actually have 2 validated results, but 17 errors. The errors look like infrastructure, many can't download the input files or "couldn't start app: CreateProcess() failed - " on Windows. Eric. |
Send message Joined: 2 May 07 Posts: 2174 Credit: 170,003,412 RAC: 110,781 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
sixtrack-production task with 243k seconds duration with Linux (451.07)! is this a record? |
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