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Send message Joined: 12 Jul 11 Posts: 857 Credit: 1,619,050 RAC: 0 |
I wonder what is the average task length. We can see some averages on the Server Status. It would be interesting to see averages by Study. When I can, I shall write some scripts to analyse the Database. I do know some scans are being run as a preliminary to more detailed studies. I would expect these to have a lower than average run time, but at least a few seconds. Whole topic fudged by the null/empty fort.10 problem. Eric. (It MIGHT be possible to change the loop order to have an outer loop over amplitudes perhaps ensuring a better distribution of run times. Maybe scans should be run on LSF, declared obsolete! Maybe there should be preliminary, preliminary studies to be more reasonable. Out of my depth. I also wonder why the overhead is so high ...I believe the user is always right and the system should cope :-) . Eric. |
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Send message Joined: 12 Jul 11 Posts: 857 Credit: 1,619,050 RAC: 0 |
Well a good question, not so easy to answer (for now). SixTrack has three phases, pre-processing. tracking. and post-processing is (almost) negligible CPU seconds, The pre-processing should be a few 3? seconds or more. The time consuming phase is tracking. If all particles are lost very quickly e.g. at high amplitudes, then the tracking time may be close to zero but not zero seconds. This time is stored in the last word 60 of each very long line of fort.10. I can find the total CPU seconds in the database. If there is a problem with initial conditions then the total time will probably be less than 20 seconds say. As of today and the past few years, these cases will return an empty/null fort.10. HOWEVER, we are getting back empty/null fort.10 result files without an error code due to infrastructure problems, Network?, Windows?, whatever. If we get 2 empty fort.10 they are validated, and the poor volunteer who ran for a couple of hours gets invalidated and no credit. I am trying to get my head round this. Sometimes, when I can, I rerun the case myself, and I have never seen a null/empty fort.10 i.e. the initial conditions are good. I strongly believe in an infrastructure problem. (I have had a fix for a couple of years but it is not yet in production :-(....). The bottom line is that Tasks with less than 3 seconds say of CPU are "suspicious". This does give me the idea of looking at all such Tasks, which I have been trying to do. However I can't just ban hosts with less than 3 CPU seconds as it could be my supposed infrastructure problem. What a dilemma. Hope to have the new SixTrack soonest. A fix to reject null/empty results is inadequate. Well it will help, but I can't just ban the host. At least we will not get valid "invalid" results. I could then collect statistics on Date, Time, OS, Model, and whatever....... What a conundrum. Eric. |
 Magic Quantum Mechanic Send message Joined: 24 Oct 04 Posts: 1177 Credit: 54,887,670 RAC: 3,877   
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Well I finished all the SixTrack tasks I could get and back to zero in progress. 30 pending,3 inconclusive,and 78 Valid https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/results.php?userid=5472 Tried to get more but all I got are Theory tasks. |
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Send message Joined: 12 Jul 11 Posts: 857 Credit: 1,619,050 RAC: 0 |
Sounds good and not unreasonable. Eric. |
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Magic Quantum Mechanic Send message Joined: 24 Oct 04 Posts: 1177 Credit: 54,887,670 RAC: 3,877
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I agree Eric But I hope to get more SixTrack tasks next reload here. |
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Send message Joined: 12 Jul 11 Posts: 857 Credit: 1,619,050 RAC: 0 |
Just let me know please. Off to bed for a few hours kip. Eric. |
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Magic Quantum Mechanic Send message Joined: 24 Oct 04 Posts: 1177 Credit: 54,887,670 RAC: 3,877
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I just got 20 new SixTrack tasks Eric Almost midnight here but I will check later and see if I get more. (and see if I can get a few more on another 8-core) |
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Send message Joined: 7 Oct 11 Posts: 10 Credit: 19,295 RAC: 0 |
Try as I might I cannot receive WU,s on anything like a regular basis. Sorry but as soon as outstanding credits are updated I will detach from this project. |
 Send message Joined: 15 Jun 08 Posts: 2541 Credit: 254,608,838 RAC: 23,290   |
27-Jun-2017 15:05:20 [LHC@home] No tasks are available for SixTrack Again server problems? |
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Send message Joined: 12 Jul 11 Posts: 857 Credit: 1,619,050 RAC: 0 |
My colleagues Alessio and Riccardo appear to have fixed this. SixTrack work should now be being distributed. I am now getting new tasks myself. Eric. |
anarchic teapot Send message Joined: 15 Feb 06 Posts: 67 Credit: 460,896 RAC: 0 |
I'm getting WUs on the PC (Win10 64 bit) no problem, but nothing at all on the Android tablet. Are there any tasks going out for this platform? sQuonk Plague of Mice Intel Core i3-9100 CPU@3.60 GHz, but it's doing its bit just the same. |
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Send message Joined: 14 Jan 10 Posts: 1422 Credit: 9,484,585 RAC: 852   |
I'm getting WUs on the PC (Win10 64 bit) no problem, but nothing at all on the Android tablet. At the moment for Android only the sixtracktest (beta test) application is available, but the number of those test tasks (for all OS's) is very low and are distributed very seldom. |
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Send message Joined: 19 Sep 08 Posts: 1 Credit: 436,769 RAC: 0 |
My post may be premature, however- I'm receiving "No tasks are available for SixTrack" Hope y'all get it worked out. Personally, I kinda feel bummed seeing LHC as a flatline in BOINC. (No pressure tho!) encl. 20170727_BOINC_Event Log_LHC.rtf Thu Jul 27 16:29:01 2017 | | Starting BOINC client version 7.6.34 for x86_64-apple-darwin Thu Jul 27 16:29:01 2017 | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task Thu Jul 27 16:29:01 2017 | | Libraries: libcurl/7.47.1 OpenSSL/1.0.2g zlib/1.2.8 c-ares/1.10.0 Thu Jul 27 16:29:01 2017 | | Data directory: /Library/Application Support/BOINC Data Thu Jul 27 16:29:01 2017 | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon Pro 580 Compute Engine (driver version 1.2 (Jun 15 2017 18:41:53), device version OpenCL 1.2, 2048MB, 2048MB available, 3456 GFLOPS peak) Thu Jul 27 16:29:01 2017 | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7600K CPU @ 3.80GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Apple, driver version 1.1, device version OpenCL 1.2) Thu Jul 27 16:29:01 2017 | | app version refers to missing GPU type NVIDIA Thu Jul 27 16:29:01 2017 | | app version refers to missing GPU type NVIDIA Thu Jul 27 16:29:01 2017 | | app version refers to missing GPU type NVIDIA Thu Jul 27 16:29:01 2017 | | app version refers to missing GPU type NVIDIA Thu Jul 27 16:29:07 2017 | | Host name: Dallas.local Thu Jul 27 16:29:07 2017 | | Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7600K CPU @ 3.80GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 158 Stepping 9] Thu Jul 27 16:29:07 2017 | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clfsh ds acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pbe pni pclmulqdq dtes64 mon dscpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 fma cx16 tpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt aes pcid xsave osxsave seglim64 tsctmr avx rdrand f16c Thu Jul 27 16:29:07 2017 | | OS: Mac OS X 10.12.6 (Darwin 16.7.0) Thu Jul 27 16:29:07 2017 | | Memory: 32.00 GB physical, 360.39 GB virtual Thu Jul 27 16:29:07 2017 | | Disk: 1.92 TB total, 360.15 GB free Thu Jul 27 16:29:07 2017 | | Local time is UTC -10 hours Thu Jul 27 16:29:07 2017 | | VirtualBox version: 5.1.24r117012 Thu Jul 27 16:29:07 2017 | LHC@home | URL https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/; Computer ID 10003191; resource share 200 Thu Jul 27 16:29:07 2017 | | General prefs: from http://lhcathomeclassic.cern.ch/sixtrack/ (last modified 27-Jan-2013 19:30:41) Thu Jul 27 16:29:07 2017 | | Host location: none Thu Jul 27 16:29:07 2017 | | General prefs: using your defaults Thu Jul 27 16:29:07 2017 | | Reading preferences override file Thu Jul 27 16:29:07 2017 | | Preferences: Thu Jul 27 16:29:07 2017 | | max memory usage when active: 9830.40MB Thu Jul 27 16:29:07 2017 | | max memory usage when idle: 26214.40MB Thu Jul 27 16:29:07 2017 | | max disk usage: 5.00GB Thu Jul 27 16:29:07 2017 | | max CPUs used: 3 Thu Jul 27 16:29:07 2017 | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 75% Thu Jul 27 16:29:07 2017 | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager) Thu Jul 27 16:29:12 2017 | LHC@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by project. Thu Jul 27 16:29:12 2017 | LHC@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU Thu Jul 27 16:29:15 2017 | LHC@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks Thu Jul 27 16:29:15 2017 | LHC@home | No tasks sent Thu Jul 27 16:29:15 2017 | LHC@home | No tasks are available for SixTrack Thu Jul 27 16:32:08 2017 | LHC@home | update requested by user Thu Jul 27 16:32:16 2017 | LHC@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Thu Jul 27 16:32:16 2017 | LHC@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU Thu Jul 27 16:32:19 2017 | LHC@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks Thu Jul 27 16:32:19 2017 | LHC@home | No tasks sent Thu Jul 27 16:32:19 2017 | LHC@home | No tasks are available for SixTrack Thu Jul 27 16:32:34 2017 | LHC@home | update requested by user Thu Jul 27 16:32:39 2017 | LHC@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Thu Jul 27 16:32:39 2017 | LHC@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU Thu Jul 27 16:32:43 2017 | LHC@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks Thu Jul 27 16:32:43 2017 | LHC@home | No tasks sent Thu Jul 27 16:32:43 2017 | LHC@home | No tasks are available for SixTrack Thu Jul 27 16:37:12 2017 | | Re-reading cc_config.xml Thu Jul 27 16:37:12 2017 | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, task_debug |
AlienRace Send message Joined: 8 Sep 08 Posts: 2 Credit: 1,392,183 RAC: 0
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Hi, I guess no work due to Intel slow GPU? 7/27/2017 11:10:18 PM | LHC@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. 7/27/2017 11:10:18 PM | LHC@home | Not requesting tasks: don't need (CPU: not highest priority project; Intel GPU: GPUs not usable) 7/27/2017 11:10:20 PM | LHC@home | Scheduler request completed |
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Send message Joined: 12 Jul 11 Posts: 857 Credit: 1,619,050 RAC: 0 |
My post may be premature, however- I'm receiving "No tasks are available for SixTrack" |
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Send message Joined: 12 Jul 11 Posts: 857 Credit: 1,619,050 RAC: 0 |
Hi, |
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Send message Joined: 14 Jan 10 Posts: 1422 Credit: 9,484,585 RAC: 852 |
7/27/2017 11:10:18 PM | LHC@home | Not requesting tasks: don't need (CPU: not highest priority project; Intel GPU: GPUs not usable) First try setting other projects to 'No New Work' |
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AlienRace Send message Joined: 8 Sep 08 Posts: 2 Credit: 1,392,183 RAC: 0
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Thanks! It got some tasks now after it completed other tasks that were due soon. Usualy i am not noticing those "no work", but today I checked on that due to message was received that it might be some issues. All is well now and on to work! :) |
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Send message Joined: 29 Jun 07 Posts: 1 Credit: 33,016 RAC: 0 |
No tasks :( ever. Sat 29 Jul 07:53:49 2017 | | cc_config.xml not found - using defaults Sat 29 Jul 07:53:50 2017 | | Starting BOINC client version 7.6.34 for x86_64-apple-darwin Sat 29 Jul 07:53:50 2017 | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task Sat 29 Jul 07:53:50 2017 | | Libraries: libcurl/7.47.1 OpenSSL/1.0.2g zlib/1.2.8 c-ares/1.10.0 Sat 29 Jul 07:53:50 2017 | | Data directory: /Library/Application Support/BOINC Data Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GT 750M (driver version 10.17.5 355.10.05.45f01, device version OpenCL 1.2, 2048MB, 2048MB available, 178 GFLOPS peak) Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | OpenCL: Intel GPU 0: Iris Pro (driver version 1.2(Apr 22 2017 16:00:44), device version OpenCL 1.2, 1536MB, 1536MB available, 384 GFLOPS peak) Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4850HQ CPU @ 2.30GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Apple, driver version 1.1, device version OpenCL 1.2) Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | App version needs CUDA but GPU doesn't support it Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | App version needs CUDA but GPU doesn't support it Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | Host name: MacBook-Pro-2.local Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | Processor: 8 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4850HQ CPU @ 2.30GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 70 Stepping 1] Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clfsh ds acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pbe pni pclmulqdq dtes64 mon dscpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 fma cx16 tpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt aes pcid xsave osxsave seglim64 tsctmr avx rdrand f16c Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | OS: Mac OS X 10.12.5 (Darwin 16.6.0) Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | Memory: 16.00 GB physical, 27.85 GB virtual Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | Disk: 464.77 GB total, 27.61 GB free Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | Local time is UTC +1 hours Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | VirtualBox version: 5.0.28r111378 Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | LHC@home | URL https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/; Computer ID 10482458; resource share 100 Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | General prefs: from https://bam.boincstats.com/ (last modified 10-Jul-2017 16:34:26) Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | Host location: none Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | General prefs: using your defaults Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | Reading preferences override file Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | Preferences: Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | max memory usage when active: 16384.00MB Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | max memory usage when idle: 16384.00MB Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | max disk usage: 26.77GB Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | don't compute while active Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | don't use GPU while active Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25% Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager) Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | Suspending computation - on batteries Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | | Contacting account manager at https://bam.boincstats.com/ Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | LHC@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by project. Sat 29 Jul 07:55:51 2017 | LHC@home | Not requesting tasks: don't need (CPU: job cache full; NVIDIA GPU: ; Intel GPU: ) Sat 29 Jul 07:55:53 2017 | | Account manager: BAM! User: 29424, jeffa Sat 29 Jul 07:55:53 2017 | | Account manager: BAM! Host: 708170 Sat 29 Jul 07:55:53 2017 | | Account manager: Number of BAM! connections for this host: 62 Sat 29 Jul 07:55:53 2017 | | Account manager contact succeeded Sat 29 Jul 07:55:53 2017 | | General prefs: from https://bam.boincstats.com/ (last modified 10-Jul-2017 16:34:26) Sat 29 Jul 07:55:53 2017 | | Host location: none Sat 29 Jul 07:55:53 2017 | | General prefs: using your defaults Sat 29 Jul 07:55:53 2017 | | Reading preferences override file Sat 29 Jul 07:55:53 2017 | | Preferences: Sat 29 Jul 07:55:53 2017 | | max memory usage when active: 16384.00MB Sat 29 Jul 07:55:53 2017 | | max memory usage when idle: 16384.00MB Sat 29 Jul 07:55:53 2017 | | max disk usage: 26.77GB Sat 29 Jul 07:55:53 2017 | | don't compute while active Sat 29 Jul 07:55:53 2017 | | don't use GPU while active Sat 29 Jul 07:55:53 2017 | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25% Sat 29 Jul 07:55:53 2017 | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager) Sat 29 Jul 07:55:53 2017 | LHC@home | Scheduler request completed Sat 29 Jul 07:56:29 2017 | LHC@home | update requested by user Sat 29 Jul 07:56:33 2017 | LHC@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Sat 29 Jul 07:56:33 2017 | LHC@home | Not requesting tasks: don't need (CPU: job cache full; NVIDIA GPU: ; Intel GPU: ) Sat 29 Jul 07:56:36 2017 | LHC@home | Scheduler request completed Sat 29 Jul 07:57:00 2017 | LHC@home | update requested by user Sat 29 Jul 07:57:01 2017 | LHC@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Sat 29 Jul 07:57:01 2017 | LHC@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU Sat 29 Jul 07:57:02 2017 | LHC@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks Sat 29 Jul 07:57:02 2017 | LHC@home | No tasks sent Sat 29 Jul 07:57:02 2017 | LHC@home | No tasks are available for SixTrack Sat 29 Jul 07:57:52 2017 | LHC@home | project suspended by user Sat 29 Jul 07:57:54 2017 | LHC@home | project resumed by user Sat 29 Jul 07:57:56 2017 | LHC@home | update requested by user Sat 29 Jul 07:57:57 2017 | LHC@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Sat 29 Jul 07:57:57 2017 | LHC@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU Sat 29 Jul 07:57:58 2017 | LHC@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks Sat 29 Jul 07:57:58 2017 | LHC@home | No tasks sent Sat 29 Jul 07:57:58 2017 | LHC@home | No tasks are available for SixTrack |
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Send message Joined: 27 Sep 08 Posts: 850 Credit: 692,824,076 RAC: 46,142  |
There isn't an apple support yet, if you have sixtrack test sometimes there is some I think I got 1/2 It's coming though..... |
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