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Garrulus glandarius Send message Joined: 5 Apr 25 Posts: 55 Credit: 1,056,686 RAC: 4,582	Message 52643 - Posted: 7 Nov 2025, 18:53:41 UTC - in response to Message 52641. You may also want to check the CERN Grafana pages: LHC@home menu -> Jobs -> CMS Jobs -> Running Jobs If you are running CMS tasks but the most recent number there is down to zero you are wasting cycles with empty envelope tasks. Thanks for the tip. I managed to register an "outsider" account there and I see 500-600 jobs in the "production" category. I assume that means all is good. I do have a question though. The BOINC-based server status page shows over 10k tasks in progress. Why the huge discrepancy? Does it mean that most tasks running are envelope tasks? ID: 52643 · Reply Quote

computezrmle Volunteer moderator Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Help desk expert Send message Joined: 15 Jun 08 Posts: 2697 Credit: 288,766,494 RAC: 114,018	Message 52644 - Posted: 7 Nov 2025, 19:23:38 UTC - in response to Message 52643. These are tasks that are sent to the client but not yet started. When a VM (task) starts it registers via WMAgent/HTCondor to get a job. BOINC server shows # sent tasks Grafana shows # registered jobs ID: 52644 · Reply Quote

Garrulus glandarius Send message Joined: 5 Apr 25 Posts: 55 Credit: 1,056,686 RAC: 4,582	Message 52645 - Posted: 7 Nov 2025, 19:31:05 UTC - in response to Message 52644. Thanks for the insight, it makes sense now! ID: 52645 · Reply Quote

ivan Volunteer moderator Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 1115 Credit: 9,965,374 RAC: 28,451	Message 52652 - Posted: 11 Nov 2025, 9:53:15 UTC Last modified: 11 Nov 2025, 9:55:09 UTC Apologies. I didn't catch the last batch before the job queue drained. A new batch is in the system but it will take an hour or two before a) jobs get into the condor pending queue, and b) BOINC server sees there are new jobs available and starts creating new tasks in the task queue. Edit: Ha, spoke too soon -- new jobs/tasks are already available! ID: 52652 · Reply Quote

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