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Garrulus glandarius Send message Joined: 5 Apr 25 Posts: 59 Credit: 1,477,067 RAC: 5,594	Message 52643 - Posted: 7 Nov 2025, 18:53:41 UTC - in response to Message 52641. You may also want to check the CERN Grafana pages: LHC@home menu -> Jobs -> CMS Jobs -> Running Jobs If you are running CMS tasks but the most recent number there is down to zero you are wasting cycles with empty envelope tasks. Thanks for the tip. I managed to register an "outsider" account there and I see 500-600 jobs in the "production" category. I assume that means all is good. I do have a question though. The BOINC-based server status page shows over 10k tasks in progress. Why the huge discrepancy? Does it mean that most tasks running are envelope tasks? ID: 52643 · Reply Quote

computezrmle Volunteer moderator Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Help desk expert Send message Joined: 15 Jun 08 Posts: 2721 Credit: 296,021,423 RAC: 107,277	Message 52644 - Posted: 7 Nov 2025, 19:23:38 UTC - in response to Message 52643. These are tasks that are sent to the client but not yet started. When a VM (task) starts it registers via WMAgent/HTCondor to get a job. BOINC server shows # sent tasks Grafana shows # registered jobs ID: 52644 · Reply Quote

Garrulus glandarius Send message Joined: 5 Apr 25 Posts: 59 Credit: 1,477,067 RAC: 5,594	Message 52645 - Posted: 7 Nov 2025, 19:31:05 UTC - in response to Message 52644. Thanks for the insight, it makes sense now! ID: 52645 · Reply Quote

ivan Volunteer moderator Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 1125 Credit: 10,757,092 RAC: 7,943	Message 52652 - Posted: 11 Nov 2025, 9:53:15 UTC Last modified: 11 Nov 2025, 9:55:09 UTC Apologies. I didn't catch the last batch before the job queue drained. A new batch is in the system but it will take an hour or two before a) jobs get into the condor pending queue, and b) BOINC server sees there are new jobs available and starts creating new tasks in the task queue. Edit: Ha, spoke too soon -- new jobs/tasks are already available! ID: 52652 · Reply Quote

Erich56 Send message Joined: 18 Dec 15 Posts: 1929 Credit: 152,734,905 RAC: 78,413	Message 52682 - Posted: 21 Nov 2025, 6:47:18 UTC - in response to Message 52652. the queue has run dry ID: 52682 · Reply Quote

Magic Quantum Mechanic Send message Joined: 24 Oct 04 Posts: 1250 Credit: 88,660,087 RAC: 84,981	Message 52683 - Posted: 21 Nov 2025, 8:32:54 UTC - in response to Message 52682. and many of the last ones we got were the no work version https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/result.php?resultid=430573034 I had around 40 ID: 52683 · Reply Quote

ivan Volunteer moderator Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 1125 Credit: 10,757,092 RAC: 7,943	Message 52684 - Posted: 21 Nov 2025, 11:11:20 UTC - in response to Message 52682. the queue has run dry Yes. Looks like the JobSubmitter component in the WMAgent died around midnight. We've restarted it, and jobs are starting to run again. ID: 52684 · Reply Quote

Magic Quantum Mechanic Send message Joined: 24 Oct 04 Posts: 1250 Credit: 88,660,087 RAC: 84,981	Message 52686 - Posted: 22 Nov 2025, 0:22:46 UTC - in response to Message 52684. YES they seem to be running here again Ivan.......not over at -dev though ID: 52686 · Reply Quote

ivan Volunteer moderator Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 1125 Credit: 10,757,092 RAC: 7,943	Message 52699 - Posted: 25 Nov 2025, 16:21:20 UTC - in response to Message 52686. YES they seem to be running here again Ivan.......not over at -dev though Hi; The vccs-dev machine had been removed from the firewall. Laurence reinstated it, and I now have a job successfully running, so try again. ID: 52699 · Reply Quote

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