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Message 10630 - Posted: 7 Oct 2005, 22:07:39 UTC - in response to Message 10629.  

<blockquote>Do we hope now, that they let us run dry, because they want to upgrade the servers!!!
-just a hope!-

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I have a feeling they are just not paying this project much attention. I do not think it is one of their priorities. :(
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Message 10631 - Posted: 7 Oct 2005, 23:42:31 UTC

I am not sure that that is the case. It is likely that it is not causing problems and is doing the work and so, does not need attention.

I have LONG maintained, that BOINC is very impressive system. The problems at SETI@Home have several root causes that are not as prevelent at the other projects, one of which is that they also tend to be the ones that are trying out the majority of the new things before anyone else.

Which, can cause issues. They also have the biggest volumne of work flowing.

Well, for all of that, my systems chug along, do work, and keep adding to my "numbers" ... with Rosetta@Home going live along with SZTAKI, well, I finally kwent and dropped back to 0.1 connect interval ...
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Message 10638 - Posted: 8 Oct 2005, 7:01:33 UTC - in response to Message 10630.  

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I have a feeling they are just not paying this project much attention. I do not think it is one of their priorities. :(</blockquote>

Not so. LHCATHome is the only system providing the engineering studies for the construction of LHC. It is a crucial part of the computing resource. They're just finishing the V6.4 studies. Soon there will be a new version of the machine configuration, and many studies will need to be repeated.

The version numbers come about as new equipment is installed in the tunnels. The parameters for each piece of eqipment are measured and then put into the next set of studies instead of the nominal parameters that are used by default. This provides input to the next stage of manfacture and installation. Look out for V6S5 units, coming to a computer near you...


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Message 10660 - Posted: 9 Oct 2005, 13:52:50 UTC - in response to Message 10614.  

<blockquote>What about CPDN? Anyone know off hand what their intentions are/if they upgraded?

I'd go look myself but [insert lame excuse here].

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Well, when tested last week-end the only projects that worked was CPDN and SETI@Home. Einstein@home has later added the missing server-files so is now compatible, while Rosetta@home has upgraded to v5 and is now compatible.

While Predictor@home also has upgraded to v5, they're still missing some server-files so it's currently impossible to "attach" with v5-clients.

Most of the rest, like LHC@home, is running outdated scheduling-server, so doesn't want to talk with v5-clients at all.
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Message 10662 - Posted: 9 Oct 2005, 19:33:24 UTC

The moment this project start to support 5.x client I'll switch to it. All other project I'm participating already compatible with 5.x client. On the other hand, the moment 5.x client start to be recommended client by BOINC web site, I'll switch to it even if that mean that I need to give up LHC. Hopefully LHC will have support for version 5.x by that time.
I did testing of current development version of 5.x and I do love it.

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Message 10678 - Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 13:13:17 UTC - in response to Message 10622.  

<blockquote>A Boinc v4 client can be patched such that it can receive work from a v5 server.</blockquote>
A BOINC v4.xx client doesn't need any patches. The BOINC V5 server version is backward compatible with V4 clients.

Hence how the people still using 4.19, 4.25 to 4.45 and 4.72 on Seti@Home can still receive work from a Version 5 server. No patches needed.
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Message 10682 - Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 20:29:42 UTC - in response to Message 10678.  

<blockquote>A BOINC v4.xx client doesn't need any patches. The BOINC V5 server version is backward compatible with V4 clients.
Hence how the people still using 4.19, 4.25 to 4.45 and 4.72 on Seti@Home can still receive work from a Version 5 server. No patches needed. </blockquote>
Version 4.x has bugs. For example benchmark bug that sometimes corrupts CPDN model during benchmark (small 10 seconds timeout to close ongoing computation before benchmark start, IIRC).
Still it is good that one can use Boinc 4.x with 5.x servers...
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