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Message 7455 - Posted: 5 May 2005, 21:41:10 UTC - in response to Message 7454.  

> And, these boxes aren't allowed to bring their full power ! With HT, they have
> each 4 processors, but BOINC may only use 2 !
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Have you set your general preferences to use all 4 processors? The default setting is 2.
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Message 7459 - Posted: 5 May 2005, 23:53:23 UTC

After the latest database overload occurred my daily limit went to 25 from 50( which as has been stated doesn't keep HT machines happy. 2 of my HT machines were trying to collect its daily quota when this occurred. Does everyone have thier quota reset at same time? Is this what is causing the overload? The 1st few days of this 200k+ my machines were crunching,uploading,and downloading 2 at a time in an orderly fashion and I saw no database overloads occurring . Then when the nasty (hehe) quotas came along we have overload. Could the LHC project be victim of its own policies?
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Message 7460 - Posted: 6 May 2005, 0:05:06 UTC

I don't think the Server has a clue to whats it's doing, I can get 100 WU's on 1 PC & 36 on another PC then 50 on the next PC & then 80 on the next & so on & they all will say I've Exceeded my Daily Quota ...
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Message 7462 - Posted: 6 May 2005, 5:43:59 UTC

Today I got also only 20 WUs, then I have the "Message from server: No work available (daily quota exceeded)".
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Message 7464 - Posted: 6 May 2005, 8:18:10 UTC - in response to Message 7455.  

> Have you set your general preferences to use all 4 processors? The default
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No, I want BOINC only to run on 2 processors. I only wanted to point out, that the daily quota should be calculated based on the number of processors ...



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Message 7469 - Posted: 6 May 2005, 10:52:59 UTC

The daily quota number is assigned by PC. Not by the account. So, it is possible that the machines do have different numbers.
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Message 7484 - Posted: 7 May 2005, 0:19:06 UTC - in response to Message 7469.  

> The daily quota number is assigned by PC. Not by the account. So, it is
> possible that the machines do have different numbers.
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If that's true then what determines if my machine gets a daily limit of 25 (as it happened today) or 100 ? To me it seems rather random.
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Message 7486 - Posted: 7 May 2005, 8:03:38 UTC

That is what I have in my log from my dual-machine:

00:51 Sending Request+Downloads
xx:xx Finished+Uploads
02:49 Quota exceeded
xx:xx Finished+Uploads
07:58 Ready with all WUs

-> No WUs for the rest of the day, 16 hours free :-/

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Message 7499 - Posted: 7 May 2005, 17:11:00 UTC
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Host # 22642 has received 40 units today and is being told it has exceeded daily quota. It appears the increase has had no effect. This host averages 85-100 results a day and will probably run out of work tommorrow for LHC unless it truly starts getting 100 a day as it only has 60 left in cache. It appears the bug is still present at the server side.
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Message 7503 - Posted: 7 May 2005, 20:43:43 UTC - in response to Message 7447.  
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> Interesting. Either a) I'm wrong b) we are using too old version of the
> scheduler or c)Einstein project has done custom modifications.
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> Guess I need to find out which:)

Case b) applies. Current CVS version of BOINC scheduler scales the quota according to number of CPUs but scheduler currently in use does not. However, we are testing new versions on the alpha site.

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Message 7504 - Posted: 7 May 2005, 20:55:55 UTC - in response to Message 7499.  
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> Host # 22642 has received 40 units today and is being told it has exceeded
> daily quota. It appears the increase has had no effect. This host averages
> 85-100 results a day and will probably run out of work tommorrow for LHC
> unless it truly starts getting 100 a day as it only has 60 left in cache. It
> appears the bug is still present at the server side.

From the database I see that host #22642 has been assigned as much as 145 results today (server time). But it is indeed strange that the server has assigned that many results (100 is the current maximum) and why you have seen that few.

Investigations continue...

ADD: From the logs I see that there were many database errors while the results were assigned to you. The database actually crashed today for some unknown reason (first time in LHC@home history) but fortunately a recovery was successful. While database was sick many database updates failed and this can be now seen as abnormal behaviour.

I set nresults_today for host #22642 to 40. Happy crunching.


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Message 7505 - Posted: 7 May 2005, 21:50:08 UTC - in response to Message 7504.  

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> Investigations continue...
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> ADD: From the logs I see that there were many database errors while the
> results were assigned to you. The database actually crashed today for some
> unknown reason (first time in LHC@home history) but fortunately a recovery was
> successful. While database was sick many database updates failed and this can
> be now seen as abnormal behaviour.
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> I set nresults_today for host #22642 to 40. Happy crunching.
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>Thank-you Markku it is much appreciated as well as your responsiveness
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Message 7518 - Posted: 8 May 2005, 9:31:49 UTC

Yesterday in the morning I got 3 WUs on my computer 21404. After that until this morning, there was the message "Project is down" and "Server can't open database".
Because my other computers could sent results and got new WUs, I restartet Boinc on 21404. And then I got the message "daily quota exceed".
Looking in my account on lhc I saw, that since yesterday more than 250 WUs are sent to my computer. But here are only 3.
Where is the rest?

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Message 7519 - Posted: 8 May 2005, 9:47:51 UTC - in response to Message 7518.  

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> Looking in my account on lhc I saw, that since yesterday more than 250 WUs
> are sent to my computer. But here are only 3.
> Where is the rest?
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Please look here.

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Message 7521 - Posted: 8 May 2005, 9:55:51 UTC - in response to Message 7519.  
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> >
> > Looking in my account on lhc I saw, that since yesterday more than 250
> WUs
> > are sent to my computer. But here are only 3.
> > Where is the rest?
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Maybe in 'data-nirwana-land' or they landed in Bill Gates basket...
(just kidding)
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> Please look here.
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Well answered!
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BTW: Since this database-crash from yesterday all reported results go directly to the pendings. .... :(
-> stagnation in 'total credits'; massive increase in 'pending credits'; dropping of RAC ...
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Message 7525 - Posted: 8 May 2005, 10:22:40 UTC

BTW: Since this database-crash from yesterday all reported results go directly to the pendings. .... :(
-> stagnation in 'total credits'; massive increase in 'pending credits'; dropping of RAC ...
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I like to think of it as like watching dead grass grow ... :P
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Message 7527 - Posted: 8 May 2005, 10:31:13 UTC - in response to Message 7525.  
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> I like to think of it as like watching dead grass grow ... :P
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In state to smoke it! ... ;)
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BTW: my biggest problem at the moment is to line up (or synchronize) the CPID.
My head is smoking....
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Message 7529 - Posted: 8 May 2005, 14:39:10 UTC - in response to Message 7521.  

> BTW: Since this database-crash from yesterday all reported results go directly
> to the pendings. .... :(
> -> stagnation in 'total credits'; massive increase in 'pending credits';
> dropping of RAC ...
Is this a problem? What can be done in this case? I've got >1000 pending creds and my RAC didn't move since this time.

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Message 7530 - Posted: 8 May 2005, 15:31:04 UTC - in response to Message 7529.  

> Is this a problem? What can be done in this case? I've got >1000 pending
> creds and my RAC didn't move since this time.

It is not a problem that we can do anything about. Just keep working and it will all come out in the wash.

With SETI@Home off-line I think some of us were pulling more here and that will just mean a "spike" in numbers later on this week.

Personally I am more worrieed about the dropping work available numbers ...

Life was good for awhile.
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Message 7532 - Posted: 8 May 2005, 17:26:31 UTC - in response to Message 7518.  

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> Where is the rest?
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I think they are in the same place as many of jrenkar's results. That is, in the graveyard of lost results. But fortunately they can be resurrected so don't worry.

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