1) Questions and Answers : Getting started : "Postponed: VM job unmanageable, restart later." Status Message (Message 37254)
Posted 6 Nov 2018 by Edwin Tamasan
Post:
Thank you for your reply bronco.

1. Done, changed 'no limit' to '1'.
2. Thinking about the memory, what is "smaller requirement"? I would have thought that 32 GB is usually more than enough for most programs, including BOINC and VirtualBox.

I have recorded the screen with BOINC and Windows Task Manager to see the RAM usage today - it went up to 49%, stayed there about a minute, followed by a 'postponed' ATLAS task which dropped the usage at 34%; then, surprisingly, it stayed there for at least 2+ hours with no change! The second ATLAS task was still running without any issues.

This makes me wonder, why did it not go higher than 49%? Otherwise, was that some sort of memory leak that was constantly increasing the usage until it crashed? Suspicious.
2) Questions and Answers : Getting started : "Postponed: VM job unmanageable, restart later." Status Message (Message 37242)
Posted 5 Nov 2018 by Edwin Tamasan
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Thank you guys for your suggestions - I am back with news.

@MAGIC Quantum Mechanic
Yes, I have the VirtualBox version that comes with BOINC. In order to update / install the new version, do I need to do anything with the LHC@home tasks that are using it at the moment? Thinking whether I have to 'abort' them beforehand or simply proceed with the installation.

Regarding the Theory Simulation, it seems that I received the first one today! Is there a way to choose between these applications, apart from the Preferences page or the actual tasks within BOINC Manager?

@computezrmle
I changed the number of CPUs from 8 to 2, and I had to 'abort' this task because it was still running on 8 (even after 'update' and BOINC restart). Today I received new tasks and they are running better than before, however, one of them still ran into 'postponed'.




Therefore, should my next step be to install version 5.2.20 (latest) of VirtualBox? Oh, just noticed whilst typing this - the 2nd ATLAS task got 'postponed' as well.
3) Questions and Answers : Getting started : "Postponed: VM job unmanageable, restart later." Status Message (Message 37217)
Posted 3 Nov 2018 by Edwin Tamasan
Post:
Thank you for your reply computezrmle.

I noticed that, however, the idea behind Science United seems very useful and efficient - having everything in 1 place instead of 10 - but yes, it does not seem to be very well designed or straightforward.

I believe that I have located the correct folder:
2018-11-02 18:27:59 (7536): vboxwrapper (7.7.26196): starting
2018-11-02 18:27:59 (7536): Error creating VirtualBox instance! rc = 0x80004002
2018-11-02 18:28:00 (7536): Feature: Checkpoint interval offset (510 seconds)
2018-11-02 18:28:00 (7536): Detected: VirtualBox VboxManage Interface (Version: 5.2.8)
2018-11-02 18:28:00 (7536): Detected: Minimum checkpoint interval (900.000000 seconds)
2018-11-02 18:28:00 (7536): Successfully copied 'init_data.xml' to the shared directory.
2018-11-02 18:28:02 (7536): Create VM. (boinc_ec1084f2e7bcb8e7, slot#2)
2018-11-02 18:28:02 (7536): Setting Memory Size for VM. (10200MB)
2018-11-02 18:28:02 (7536): Setting CPU Count for VM. (8)
2018-11-02 18:28:03 (7536): Setting Chipset Options for VM.
2018-11-02 18:28:03 (7536): Setting Boot Options for VM.
2018-11-02 18:28:03 (7536): Setting Network Configuration for NAT.
2018-11-02 18:28:04 (7536): Enabling VM Network Access.
2018-11-02 18:28:04 (7536): Disabling USB Support for VM.
2018-11-02 18:28:04 (7536): Disabling COM Port Support for VM.
2018-11-02 18:28:04 (7536): Disabling LPT Port Support for VM.
2018-11-02 18:28:05 (7536): Disabling Audio Support for VM.
2018-11-02 18:28:05 (7536): Disabling Clipboard Support for VM.
2018-11-02 18:28:05 (7536): Disabling Drag and Drop Support for VM.
2018-11-02 18:28:05 (7536): Adding storage controller(s) to VM.
2018-11-02 18:28:06 (7536): Adding virtual disk drive to VM. (vm_image.vdi)
2018-11-02 18:28:06 (7536): Adding VirtualBox Guest Additions to VM.
2018-11-02 18:28:06 (7536): Adding network bandwidth throttle group to VM. (Defaulting to 1024GB)
2018-11-02 18:28:07 (7536): forwarding host port 50330 to guest port 80
2018-11-02 18:28:07 (7536): Enabling remote desktop for VM.
2018-11-02 18:28:07 (7536): Required extension pack not installed, remote desktop not enabled.
2018-11-02 18:28:07 (7536): Enabling shared directory for VM.
2018-11-02 18:28:08 (7536): Starting VM. (boinc_ec1084f2e7bcb8e7, slot#2)
2018-11-02 18:28:17 (7536): Successfully started VM. (PID = '9508')
2018-11-02 18:28:17 (7536): Reporting VM Process ID to BOINC.
2018-11-02 18:28:27 (7536): Guest Log: BIOS: VirtualBox 5.2.8
2018-11-02 18:28:27 (7536): Guest Log: CPUID EDX: 0x178bfbff
2018-11-02 18:28:27 (7536): Guest Log: BIOS: ata0-0: PCHS=16383/16/63 LCHS=1024/255/63
2018-11-02 18:28:27 (7536): Guest Log: BIOS: Boot : bseqnr=1, bootseq=0032
2018-11-02 18:28:27 (7536): Guest Log: BIOS: Booting from Hard Disk...
2018-11-02 18:28:27 (7536): Guest Log: BIOS: KBD: unsupported int 16h function 03
2018-11-02 18:28:27 (7536): Guest Log: BIOS: AX=0305 BX=0000 CX=0000 DX=0000 
2018-11-02 18:28:27 (7536): VM state change detected. (old = 'poweroff', new = 'running')
2018-11-02 18:28:37 (7536): Detected: Web Application Enabled (http://localhost:50330)
2018-11-02 18:28:48 (7536): Guest Log: vboxguest: major 0, IRQ 20, I/O port d020, MMIO at 00000000f0400000 (size 0x400000)
2018-11-02 18:28:48 (7536): Preference change detected
2018-11-02 18:28:48 (7536): Setting CPU throttle for VM. (100%)
2018-11-02 18:28:48 (7536): Setting checkpoint interval to 900 seconds. (Higher value of (Preference: 180 seconds) or (Vbox_job.xml: 900 seconds))
2018-11-02 18:28:58 (7536): Guest Log: VBoxGuest: VBoxGuestCommonGuestCapsAcquire: pSession(0xffff880289835810), OR(0x0), NOT(0xffffffff), flags(0x0)
2018-11-02 18:28:58 (7536): Guest Log: VBoxGuest: VBoxGuestCommonGuestCapsAcquire: pSession(0xffff88028dd72e10), OR(0x0), NOT(0xffffffff), flags(0x0)
2018-11-02 18:28:58 (7536): Guest Log: VBoxGuest: VBoxGuestCommonGuestCapsAcquire: pSession(0xffff88028df52c10), OR(0x0), NOT(0xffffffff), flags(0x0)
2018-11-02 18:28:58 (7536): Guest Log: VBoxGuest: VBoxGuestCommonGuestCapsAcquire: pSession(0xffff88028a1afa10), OR(0x0), NOT(0xffffffff), flags(0x0)
2018-11-02 18:30:10 (7536): Guest Log: Copying input files into RunAtlas.
2018-11-02 18:30:20 (7536): Guest Log: Copied input files into RunAtlas.
2018-11-02 18:30:31 (7536): Guest Log: copied the webapp to /var/www
2018-11-02 18:30:31 (7536): Guest Log: This vm does not need to setup http proxy
2018-11-02 18:30:31 (7536): Guest Log: ATHENA_PROC_NUMBER=8
2018-11-02 18:30:31 (7536): Guest Log: Starting ATLAS job. (PandaID=4125657016 taskID=15733940)
2018-11-02 18:31:53 (7536): VM state change detected. (old = 'running', new = 'paused')
2018-11-02 18:32:04 (7536): VM state change detected. (old = 'paused', new = 'running')
2018-11-02 18:35:39 (7536): Preference change detected
2018-11-02 18:35:39 (7536): Setting CPU throttle for VM. (100%)
2018-11-02 18:35:40 (7536): Setting checkpoint interval to 900 seconds. (Higher value of (Preference: 180 seconds) or (Vbox_job.xml: 900 seconds))
2018-11-02 18:37:12 (7536): VM state change detected. (old = 'running', new = 'paused')
2018-11-02 18:37:23 (7536): VM state change detected. (old = 'paused', new = 'running')
2018-11-02 18:42:59 (7536): ERROR: Vboxwrapper lost communication with VirtualBox, rescheduling task for a later time.
2018-11-02 18:42:59 (7536): Powering off VM.
2018-11-02 18:43:00 (7536): Successfully stopped VM.
2018-11-03 16:36:44 (13048): vboxwrapper (7.7.26196): starting
2018-11-03 16:36:44 (13048): Error creating VirtualBox instance! rc = 0x80004002
2018-11-03 16:36:45 (13048): Feature: Checkpoint interval offset (348 seconds)
2018-11-03 16:36:45 (13048): Detected: VirtualBox VboxManage Interface (Version: 5.2.8)
2018-11-03 16:36:45 (13048): Detected: Minimum checkpoint interval (900.000000 seconds)
2018-11-03 16:36:46 (13048): Starting VM. (boinc_ec1084f2e7bcb8e7, slot#2)
2018-11-03 16:36:56 (13048): Successfully started VM. (PID = '13800')
2018-11-03 16:36:56 (13048): Reporting VM Process ID to BOINC.
2018-11-03 16:37:06 (13048): Guest Log: BIOS: VirtualBox 5.2.8
2018-11-03 16:37:06 (13048): Guest Log: CPUID EDX: 0x178bfbff
2018-11-03 16:37:06 (13048): Guest Log: BIOS: ata0-0: PCHS=16383/16/63 LCHS=1024/255/63
2018-11-03 16:37:06 (13048): Guest Log: BIOS: Boot : bseqnr=1, bootseq=0032
2018-11-03 16:37:06 (13048): Guest Log: BIOS: Booting from Hard Disk...
2018-11-03 16:37:06 (13048): Guest Log: BIOS: KBD: unsupported int 16h function 03
2018-11-03 16:37:06 (13048): Guest Log: BIOS: AX=0305 BX=0000 CX=0000 DX=0000 
2018-11-03 16:37:07 (13048): VM state change detected. (old = 'poweroff', new = 'running')
2018-11-03 16:37:17 (13048): Detected: Web Application Enabled (http://localhost:50330)
2018-11-03 16:37:28 (13048): Guest Log: vboxguest: major 0, IRQ 20, I/O port d020, MMIO at 00000000f0400000 (size 0x400000)
2018-11-03 16:37:28 (13048): Preference change detected
2018-11-03 16:37:28 (13048): Setting CPU throttle for VM. (100%)
2018-11-03 16:37:28 (13048): Setting checkpoint interval to 900 seconds. (Higher value of (Preference: 180 seconds) or (Vbox_job.xml: 900 seconds))
2018-11-03 16:37:39 (13048): Guest Log: VBoxGuest: VBoxGuestCommonGuestCapsAcquire: pSession(0xffff88028df5c610), OR(0x0), NOT(0xffffffff), flags(0x0)
2018-11-03 16:37:39 (13048): Guest Log: VBoxGuest: VBoxGuestCommonGuestCapsAcquire: pSession(0xffff88028de21210), OR(0x0), NOT(0xffffffff), flags(0x0)
2018-11-03 16:37:39 (13048): Guest Log: VBoxGuest: VBoxGuestCommonGuestCapsAcquire: pSession(0xffff88028de21410), OR(0x0), NOT(0xffffffff), flags(0x0)
2018-11-03 16:37:39 (13048): Guest Log: VBoxGuest: VBoxGuestCommonGuestCapsAcquire: pSession(0xffff88028dc86010), OR(0x0), NOT(0xffffffff), flags(0x0)
2018-11-03 16:39:15 (13048): Guest Log: Copying input files into RunAtlas.
2018-11-03 16:39:25 (13048): Guest Log: Copied input files into RunAtlas.
2018-11-03 16:39:25 (13048): Guest Log: copied the webapp to /var/www
2018-11-03 16:39:25 (13048): Guest Log: This vm does not need to setup http proxy
2018-11-03 16:39:25 (13048): Guest Log: ATHENA_PROC_NUMBER=8
2018-11-03 16:39:25 (13048): Guest Log: Starting ATLAS job. (PandaID=4125657016 taskID=15733940)
2018-11-03 16:48:05 (13048): Preference change detected
2018-11-03 16:48:05 (13048): Setting CPU throttle for VM. (100%)
2018-11-03 16:48:05 (13048): Setting checkpoint interval to 900 seconds. (Higher value of (Preference: 180 seconds) or (Vbox_job.xml: 900 seconds))
2018-11-03 17:01:32 (13048): ERROR: Vboxwrapper lost communication with VirtualBox, rescheduling task for a later time.
2018-11-03 17:01:32 (13048): Powering off VM.
2018-11-03 17:01:33 (13048): Successfully stopped VM.

- I hope that this is correct and useful; if you need anything else, please let me know. Thank you!
4) Questions and Answers : Getting started : "Postponed: VM job unmanageable, restart later." Status Message (Message 37214)
Posted 3 Nov 2018 by Edwin Tamasan
Post:
Hello there,

Another rookie here - new to BOINC and its related projects (mainly through Science United).

The issue that I am having seems fit for the Platform-specific problems > Windows section, but I am getting the following message over there - “To create a new thread in Windows you must have a certain level of average credit. This is to protect against abuse of the system.” - okay...

Not long ago I started to receive LHC@home tasks (from Science United) and I noticed a problem - 2 out of 3 failed after they reached 90+%, and the 3rd one is kind of stuck at 99+% since a few hours, a few days and over a week or so. Every time I open BOINC, the task resumes fine and processes ~0.01% in ~30 minutes, followed by a status change to "Postponed: VM job unmanageable, restart later." - and that restart never happens (left BOINC open for more than half a day).

About 90% of this 3rd task has been processed in about 8-9 hours, and the rest as it can be seen in the picture below since then; something does not seem right! I am running BOINC 7.14.2 + VirtualBox 5.2.8 x64 package downloaded from BOINC website on the latest Windows 10.



All that happened about 4 days ago… Yesterday I removed LHC@home from Science United and I am using this account. I am currently trying to run this task, but I am facing the same issue as before:


I would like to continue processing tasks for this project, but not sure what to do at this stage. I also googled the status to look for possible fixes, but did not find anything useful. Would anyone be able to give me any advice or solution, please?

Thank you for reading this. :-)
5) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Broken Community / Website?! (Message 37213)
Posted 3 Nov 2018 by Edwin Tamasan
Post:
Yey, my account and thread still exist! I guess that the 3rd time was luckiest one.

@Juha
Oh, I see what you are doing over there - had no idea that it might that simple, given that you know what you are doing! I will definitely give all that a try when I get some spare time to play around and break stuff (hopefully not!). But as you mentioned, you did not tell me anything! Thank you anyway, haha.

@MAGIC Quantum Mechanic
Yes, I am trying to get that ATLAS task finished and validated, however, it seems that I am still having the issue that made me join this forum 4 days ago. I mentioned above the following:

*Update 2: As I feared, the task ran into "Postponed: VM job unmanageable, restart later." again… I think that I will create another thread about this tomorrow, hmm.

> will do that in a few minutes.

Regarding my CPU, I do not think that I use any special setting apart from TThrottle v7.72 software which keeps my CPU usage at 95% and my GPU at 63 °C. I have a feeling that I will end up like the other user with ‘computing error’, because that is what happened with my first 2 ATLAS tasks from Science United the other day - that will follow in my new thread.
6) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Broken Community / Website?! (Message 37181)
Posted 2 Nov 2018 by Edwin Tamasan
Post:
@Juha
1,4 million seems crazy?! Why, what for… Why would anyone bother, why is it worth it... sigh

In my first thread from 31/10/18 I had 2 images inserted into my post with BOINC Manager and Science United account, and a reply containing this link yesterday (I kept my posts saved offline). If there is an automated tool doing this deletion, I understand it by all means, however, it should be working in a different way or have certain limits on new accounts - imagine how frustrating it was for me to create 3 accounts in 3 consecutive days. First to ask for some help, then ask what happened with my account and now this. If I have to create a 4th one tomorrow, it would actually become hilarious.

I will take your advice and try to add my computer over here in a few minutes, after removing the project from Science United. My authenticator has the same pattern as this one (all characters changed):
<authenticator>uhr43kref02d342f3424rgw25o4q42n</authenticator>

*Update: I have 'excluded' LHC@home from my Science United account via their website, performed a 'reset project' on BOINC Manager, 'synchronised' the client with SC and the project disappeared. Then added LHC@home separately and currently it is running an ATLAS simulation - and I can see my computer attached to this account! Now I can only hope that I will still have this account active tomorrow… :-)
*Update 2: As I feared, the task ran into "Postponed: VM job unmanageable, restart later." again… I think that I will create another thread about this tomorrow, hmm.

@bronco
Exactly! That is the main reason I joined this community, trying to sort out a problem…

@Sam Slack
Happy to see that I am not the only newbie around!
7) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Broken Community / Website?! (Message 37172)
Posted 2 Nov 2018 by Edwin Tamasan
Post:
Thank you for your reply, now it makes much more sense and I understand how it works.

Leaving all that aside for a moment, I suppose that I would still need an account with you over here in order to join the project and get tasks (assuming that I remove the one from Science United). Therefore, how could I do that if my account keeps getting deleted?
8) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Broken Community / Website?! (Message 37170)
Posted 2 Nov 2018 by Edwin Tamasan
Post:
Thank you for your reply. I will copy & paste below a fragment that I wrote on 31/10/18, which might clarify your concern, but it will take me back to problem number one (account deletion is number two).

The issue that I am having seems fit for the Platform-specific problems > Windows section, but I am getting the following message over there - “To create a new thread in Windows you must have a certain level of average credit. This is to protect against abuse of the system.” - okay...
Not long ago I started to receive LHC@home tasks (from Science United) and I noticed a problem - 2 out of 3 failed after they reached 90+%, and the 3rd one is kind of stuck at 99+% since a few hours, a few days and over a week or so.

In other words, I cannot complete any tasks, and even if I would, the score would probably be stored on my Science United account.

I also wrote this on the day, which might not be relevant to the actual account deletion problem mentioned in this thread.

Additionally, is there a way to link my Science United generated LHC@home account to this one?
9) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Broken Community / Website?! (Message 37165)
Posted 2 Nov 2018 by Edwin Tamasan
Post:
Hello there,

I would like to start by stating that this is my 3rd account in 3 consecutive days with the same username and e-mail > something already sounds broken!

31/10/18: first account; created a thread reporting an issue with LHC@home project on BOINC
01/11/18: wanted to check for an update on my thread, but it was gone and my e-mail address was not recognised as an existing account; created second account and a thread asking what happened - I remember reading a reply from a Moderator saying that he was able to find my first account registration, but something was corrupted and not deleted on purpose
02/11/18: wanted to reply to the message above, but again, my thread and account have completely vanished; created third account (this one) and posting this thread

Therefore, this experience is telling me that something in your community / website is broken, unless a member of staff is "having fun" deleting accounts and corrupting the database… Could you please look into this?

Thank you for your time. :-)



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