1) Message boards : Sixtrack Application : SixTrack v502.05 on Win XP (Message 38779)
Posted 12 May 2019 by Profile Conan
Post:
Now that I found this thread I now know why my XP jobs are all failing.
I have now set that machine to No More Work, to stop the 400+ errors I have gotten in the last few days.

I wont be updating it as it still does all I want it to do (well most). Upgrading requires a new OS, no direct update path, meaning dump what I have and then install from scratch the new OS, loss of compatible programmes and some equipment. Just does not seem to be worth the effort.

One less computer on this project, my last two do Sixtrack because I could never get Theory or Atlas CPU jobs to work, they are Linux so can still do the work. I don't do VM work as it appears to be a pain to set up and run and my Linux knowledge is not of sufficient caliber to put in the effort.

Conan
2) Message boards : News : Consent required to export statistics (Message 37733)
Posted 10 Jan 2019 by Profile Conan
Post:
It is unfortunate that this GDPR thing has been implemented the way it has.

As a long term user (many years), it was annoying to find when logging into my account that now I have to justify being a volunteer of your project.

So I clicked on the "I AGREE" button to agree to the terms of use and to move to my account.

NO you have not agreed to our terms of use ????? What? I just clicked on "I Agree"

So I log in again and this time I have to "Tick The Box" as well as clicking on "I AGREE", and then finally get into my account.

Then I have to navigate to my preferences and tick another box to get my statistics exported.

The default should be to ALLOW the export of personal data , if you don't want this THEN you have the option to block the export by removing the tick.

Einstein have done the same as you have and made the default OFF, when it has been ON since inception of BOINC. Very annoying, and it has been voiced over there as well.

Suddenly having to agree to terms of use of a product, when I have been using that product for many years, seems like a backward step to me.
You are more likely to scare people away than to attract them.

Thanks for you time
Conan
3) Message boards : ATLAS application : ATLAS issues (Message 37135)
Posted 30 Oct 2018 by Profile Conan
Post:
Hi conan,

with the things you described, probably the easiest way to get cvmfs running for you is to build it from sources.
To do so on fedora 25 workstation, follow these steps:

1. login with your default user (that has sudo rights) and clean dnf:
sudo dnf clean all
2. Install all packages that are required to build cvmfs on fedora 25 as well as other packages like nano (I'm not sure if all following packages are needed, but to simplify things just install all of them)
sudo dnf install -y cmake make automake gcc gcc-c++ kernel-devel autofs fuse fuse-devel python-devel libcap-devel git attr valgrind-devel sqlite-devel libuuid-devel uuid-devel tar patch bzip2 zlib-devel openssl-devel unzip nano
3. continue with step 3 in the "build and install cvmfs" section from this guide https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=4840&postid=36880#36880, i.e.:
cd
mkdir cvmfs_source
git clone https://github.com/cvmfs/cvmfs.git cvmfs_source
...


Hopefully this solves your porblem. On my minimal installation of fedora 25 workstation cvmfs compiled and worked after the additional set up steps that are described in the guide.


G'Day gyllic,
Thanks for responding, but all your help and Google's and over 5 days of my own input have failed to get this bloody project running.

Every time I move forward one step, I get knocked back two steps.

I found that in /var/cache/dnf there is a file called "expired_repos.json", and it seems the main entry that is keeps getting passed to this file is ["cvmfs"].
This seems to cause me to get an error in terminal saying "can't syncronize repos".

After I deleted that 'dnf' folder (it gets recreated) I was able to actually make and install CVMFS, Singularity and Golang.
It all seemed to go OK. I then found v3 of Singularity and installed that as well (up from v2.5.1).
Testing Singularity --version, produces the version number so I thought all was now OK.

Boy was I wrong.
Doing 'cvmfs_config setup' and 'chksetup' seemed to work (at least at first), but 'cvmfs_config probe' fails every time.
Found that the label for /scratch/cvmfs/ is set wrong, but no matter what I do and try I can get the label to change (from 'default_t' to 'cvmfs_cache_t'), I keep getting the error that I have used an "Invalid argument".
I have checked this over and over and I am using the chcon command correctly but it keeps failing.

CVMFS does not seem to start and this is borne out but my failed work units, which say
"no cvmfs_config in /usr/local/bin"
"Can't find cvmfs_config does not exist"
"No CVMFS"

The cvmfs_config file is where it looks in /usr/local/bin/ but I have come to the conclusion that because CVMFS is not running then cvmfs_config can't then be located.

When I do 'cvmfs_config probe' the result is
"Probing /cvmfs/atlas.cern.ch... Failed"
"Probing /cvmfs/atlas-condb.cern.ch... Failed"
"Probing /cvmfs/grid.cern.ch... Failed"

When I look in the folder /cvmfs/ there is nothing in it.
I found a tutorial about this on the net and it said to try and access file whilst in the directory and this should make the files appear. Well they didn't.

I have followed your guide, which is very good. I have followed the guides direct from the project sites (CVMFS, Golang, Sigularity) and a few others that I found, all saying similar things but none of them have gotten me working.
All the troubleshooting I have done has just made my head spin.
I couldn't tell you how many things I have downloaded, installed , tried to install, tried to run, start and probe, check, then check again and again, move and copy.

I have had 3 screens up, one for the computer I am working on, one showing the error messages on the work units and my laptop showing me my search results in Google.

It has so far been to no avail. I am going to have a break at trying to get this going.
I may not even bother to try again as this has just been a nightmare.

It would be so much easier if there was just a few single files to be downloaded and installed. I still don't know what the correct file or files is from the CVMFS project, I think I ended up downloading all of them but it has not helped.

SO it looks like this volunteer just wont be helping ATLAS do anything. I can at least run Sixtrack I suppose.

Conan
4) Message boards : ATLAS application : ATLAS issues (Message 37098)
Posted 26 Oct 2018 by Profile Conan
Post:
I found the CVMFS Package and this mostly installed what was needed but still did not compile.
Which cvmfs package do you mean? If you already have cvmfs installed from a package, there is no need to compile it any more (you can try to type the command "cvmfs2 --version" into the terminal and see if you get any output). You can download rpm packages from here: https://cernvm.cern.ch/portal/filesystem/downloads. Since you are on Fedora 25, I don't know if the packages that are provided for Fedora 27 and 28 will work for you. You can also add the yum repositories and try to install from them.

This may help you:
https://cvmfs.readthedocs.io/en/stable/cpt-quickstart.html

"CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:10 (project)
No CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER could be found

Tell CMAKE where to find the compiler by setting either the environment variable "CXX" or CMake cache entry
CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER to the full path to the compiler, or the compiler name if it is in the PATH"
Have you installed all packages needed to build cvmfs (i.e. cmake, gcc, etc.)? Since the guide is for Debian systems, the packages you have to install in order to compile cvmfs are maybe called differently on Fedora and maybe you have to install more than listed in the guide.


Thanks for the reply gyllic,

I got the package from the CVMFS site as a pkg file first, which seemed to install but not properly and then I found out that this is most likely an OSX package. Then I found a tar file on the site so tried that, yet again it falls short of fully installing CVMFS and seems to put things in the wrong folders. I did manage to get at least one more step closer to instalation only to find that when I did a check on the install, I have at least 10 errors and a warning that all is not well.
I also tried to install on another system which is clean (a Fedora 21 system) but it came up with REPO failures and can't connect to any mirrors either, so I have just given up for the time being.
Another day wasted, making 3 now and still no closer to getting this bloody project running, GRRRR, very frustrating.
I have now done a complete DNF (YUM) clean all and update, which fixed up over 1,000 packages, so I can start afresh in a day or two.

Really it shouldn't be this darn hard to get a single programme running, all the hoops I am trying to jump through is just leaving me very unhappy and tired, not enjoying this science exercise at all.

Thanks for any assistance you have given but I will maybe try another day.

Conan
5) Message boards : ATLAS application : ATLAS issues (Message 37087)
Posted 24 Oct 2018 by Profile Conan
Post:
I am trying to get ATLAS native working but I am running into a lot of problems.
A good deal of the issues I think I have sorted out (maybe), but I can't compile CVMFS at all.

The OP said there was a file that will install "everything" needed (both CVMFS and Singularity) however this is not the case and nothing really got installed at all.

So I went to Singularity web site and downloaded then installed this programme, and that seemed to have worked.

Then I went to the CVMFS site and as I did not really know what files to download I downloed a number and installed them 1x1, to see if they worked. They didn't.
I found the CVMFS Package and this mostly installed what was needed but still did not compile.

So I then found the link to the post by Gyllic on how to install from source and I have followed that (I now have a lot of replication but that is not a real issue).
Everything goes as planned till I need to use 'cmake' in the 'build' directory and it all fails with the following error

"CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:10 (project)
No CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER could be found

Tell CMAKE where to find the compiler by setting either the environment variable "CXX" or CMake cache entry
CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER to the full path to the compiler, or the compiler name if it is in the PATH"

CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER is in a sub-directory of the build directory, so I don't know why it can't be found.
The installation was as directed (both from the site and from Gryllic).

My knowledge of Linux commands is limited, so finding PATHs is not easy, but I don't see why I need to if all has been extracted to the relevant directory, why has it placed the items in the directory where they can't be found?

I can't progress past cmake to make and install the CVMFS programme.

Any help would be appreciated as I have spent 2 days on this already.

I am installing this on a Fedora 25 system, (if I get it working I was going to install on a Fedora 21 system as well)

(PS this was posted in the news section first, about ATLAS native, then reposted here)

Thanks
Conan
6) Message boards : News : New ATLAS app version released for Linux hosts (Message 37083)
Posted 24 Oct 2018 by Profile Conan
Post:
I am trying to get ATLAS native working but I am running into a lot of problems.
A good deal of the issues I think I have sorted out (maybe), but I can't compile CVMFS at all.

The OP said there was a file that will install "everything" needed (both CVMFS and Singularity) however this is not the case and nothing really got installed at all.

So I went to Singularity web site and downloaded then installed this programme, and that seemed to have worked.

Then I went to the CVMFS site and as I did not really know what files to download I downloed a number and installed them 1x1, to see if they worked. They didn't.
I found the CVMFS Package and this mostly installed what was needed but still did not compile.

So I then found the link to the post by Gyllic on how to install from source and I have followed that (I now have a lot of replication but that is not a real issue).
Everything goes as planned till I need to use 'cmake' in the 'build' directory and it all fails with the following error

"CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:10 (project)
No CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER could be found

Tell CMAKE where to find the compiler by setting either the environment variable "CXX" or CMake cache entry
CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER to the full path to the compiler, or the compiler name if it is in the PATH"

CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER is in a sub-directory of the build directory, so I don't know why it can't be found.
The installation was as directed (both from the site and from Gryllic).

My knowledge of Linux commands is limited, so finding PATHs is not easy, but I don't see why I need to if all has been extracted to the relevant directory, why has it placed the items in the directory where they can't be found?

I can't progress past cmake to make and install the CVMFS programme.

Any help would be appreciated as I have spent 2 days on this already.

I am installing this on a Fedora 25 system, (if I get it working I was going to install on a Fedora 21 system as well)

Thanks
Conan
7) Message boards : Number crunching : most of my wu's fail (Message 27884)
Posted 19 Nov 2016 by Profile Conan
Post:
In the str read out it mentions you need an extension pack for your VM, has this been installed?
If it has then it is not working, if it hasn't then it probably needs to be installed.

As I have yet to play with a VM (will soon) that is all I can offer.

Conan
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows XP hosts do not receive work! (Message 26643)
Posted 10 Jul 2014 by Profile Conan
Post:
Yes my 32 bit XP computers are receiving work with out issue.

So not sure why you are getting this problem.

A couple of your XP machines are getting work, so is it a Anti-Virus or Firewall issue perhaps?

Conan
9) Message boards : Number crunching : WU % progress stuck (Message 26574)
Posted 27 May 2014 by Profile Conan
Post:
You could try and suspend then resume the task and see if it then continues onwards.
I have a few on another project do just what you are saying with the suspend and resume allowing them to continue without aborting them.

Perhaps before you do this check the contents of the Slot file and see what is in there and maybe post the contents, the projec6t maybe able to find out what caused the problem?

There is a good chance that the CPU usage is at Zero also.

Conan
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Status 10th May, Version 451.07 (Message 26427)
Posted 12 May 2014 by Profile Conan
Post:
Yes Eric,

Just what Werinbert and Ray Murray have shown.

There may be two basic different work units types that should give two values based on their run/CPU times but this is not happening very consistently.

I have examples of work units that each have run for around 1470 seconds but credit can vary from just over 1 credit to just over 60 credits.

The overall average is still low but tolerable.

The greatest differences seem to be with the longer running work units.

As these are test work units I not too worried at the moment but when fully working it will become a bit annoying I would think.

Thanks for all your work Eric, you do a Stirling job for us volunteers and it is appreciated.

Conan
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Status 10th May, Version 451.07 (Message 26419)
Posted 10 May 2014 by Profile Conan
Post:
All work for my 32 bit Windows and 64 bit Linux has completed without error and been validated. Pity the credits were so hap-hazard.

Conan
12) Message boards : News : WU Submission SUSPENDED 19th April, 2014 (Message 26371)
Posted 26 Apr 2014 by Profile Conan
Post:
A humble suggestion from a Linux user: go the Test4Theory@home way by using VirtualBox. I am using both versions of the wrapper, the old one on a PC with BOINC 6.10.58 plus the new version on a PC with BOINC 7.2.41 and a Ubuntu Virtual Machine with BOINC 7.2.39. They all work well.
Tullio


I doubt that I will be doing this project if it goes the VM route.
Too much of a hassle for limited gain for me.
It is the reason I don't run Test4theory, Climate@home and RNAWorld. Maybe in the future I will try it out but not at the moment.

I will just go to another project that runs the way I am running at the moment.

It is a good idea and probably the way to go?, but at this stage not for me.

Conan
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Invalid tasks (Message 26344)
Posted 10 Apr 2014 by Profile Conan
Post:
Thanks Matthias; if I don't get this fixed by Monday I'll
try and get the temporary fix using homogeneous feature.
Eric.


I hope that works as I have now had 5 fail due to the Windows/Linux validation issue, and 4 of them were the 30,000+ second jobs, so, many hours and over 1,000 points lost.

Conan
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting tasks. Probably need help (Message 26332)
Posted 8 Apr 2014 by Profile Conan
Post:
The system still shows you having those 2 tasks from the 3/4/14 with a deadline of 11/4/14.
So if you have aborted them the system does not know about it.
Perhaps resetting the LHC project might help in this case, as that should get rid of old files and download some new ones.

It is something to try anyway.

Suicide is not an option. Smiling is far better as it makes others wonder what you have been up too.

Conan
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting tasks. Probably need help (Message 26324)
Posted 7 Apr 2014 by Profile Conan
Post:
According to you computer it shows that you have 2 running jobs since the 3/4/14 and 4 pending.
2 of the pending jobs date back to 2013, I am not sure what their problem is.

Is this the only project you do on this computer?
If not then time is shared across all projects.

When you complete at least one of your current jobs you will get another.

If you don't actually have the 2 jobs on your computer that are listed at the project, then a reset of the project via the BOINC Manager might be in order.

Conan
16) Message boards : News : More work coming now. (Message 25557)
Posted 10 May 2013 by Profile Conan
Post:
I have managed to get just One (1) Work Unit over the last few days, it lasted just over 2 seconds and is validation Inconclusive.

I have not been able to get any work for my 4 computers, keep being told
"Got 0 New Tasks"
"No Tasks Sent".

Available work has dropped from over 53,000 to around 27,000 tasks but myself and many others just get nothing at all.

Curious problem.

Conan
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Maximum elapsed time exceeded (Message 24806)
Posted 9 Sep 2012 by Profile Conan
Post:
@ Erik,
the URL is denied access to us but as Dennis has his computers on view so you can access them by clicking on his username and then clicking on 'view computers', then just pick the top couple of computers as they both have the error Dennis is reporting.

Conan
18) Message boards : Cafe LHC : Milestones (Message 24804)
Posted 9 Sep 2012 by Profile Conan
Post:
100,000 cobblestones for me.
It has taken 6 years but I finally got there.

Conan
19) Message boards : News : Very long jobs (Message 24705)
Posted 24 Aug 2012 by Profile Conan
Post:
There are only a few hundred wlxu7. There are very,
very many "long" tasks including wlxu2 but they
run for "only" a maximum of 10**6 i.e. one million
turns.


Ah, OK,
No problem, my 50 hour work units are not the real long ones. The wlxu7_ work units would be impressive then, 100 hours or more.

Conan
20) Message boards : News : Very long jobs (Message 24699)
Posted 24 Aug 2012 by Profile Conan
Post:
Just to clarify most of the current jobs are part of the
intensity scan which I mentioned earlier.
The very very long jobs all begin wlxu7_*


The "wlxu2_*" work unit type is the type that has been reported in this column and is the type that I have that report possible run times of 50 odd hours.

Could also include wlxu7_* but I have not seen any of these.

Conan


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