1) Message boards : Number crunching : I think we should restrict work units (Message 14279)
Posted 10 Jul 2006 by Profile peterthomas
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Hows the head Mike, got a concussion yet.

It appears that you are banging your head against a wall.

Some people just seam to want to gripe about the way this project is set up.

They WILL NOT LISTEN when told that the project staff have OTHER duties at CERN and LHC than to provide them with work.

The results from the work we do, regardless of who does it, is used to design and implement the construction, and comissioning of the LHC. To them this process is instantanious but in reality it takes time. Maybe even weeks, shock horror.

At one time I too was upset at the way this project operates, But I did some research and came to realise that because this IS REAL WORLD science and NOT THEORETICAL that it takes TIME.

So once again I will say what has been said MANY times.
If the project admin were not happy with the way the project is running they would change it.

Really all that this discussion is doing is showing the impatience of some of those who donate their computer time.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Are we dead in the water? (Message 13566)
Posted 11 May 2006 by Profile peterthomas
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does anybody know if there is a newsletter, that is sent automatically once there is new work available? Either from lhc@home or from some team out there? Checking mail is easier for me than returning to the site each day. In periods of no work I usually disable work requests in BOINC and then it happens that I'm too late to get some work ;)
the best thing would be for them to post a news item that new work is available
if you don't want to have to visit the site to read news (or check if there are even any new items) then get a feed reader, such as SharpReader and add the LHC RSS news feed to it, then it'll be easy to check, as easy as email, but without the many problems associated with an email list/newsletter (for both recipients and the project staff)

also setting no new work means exactly that, no new work, the ideal situation is that a boinc client should be allowed to get new LHC work when available, and some other method used to reduce the frequency of the log entries


For some reason I am unable to get the RSS feed link to work in SharpReader.
Could someone please post the working address or a how-to please

<edit>Not to worry, I figured it out. Needed a restart after installing .Net
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Team Stats bug? (Message 13500)
Posted 3 May 2006 by Profile peterthomas
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Dont know if this is right or wrong but having checked my team(Scotland's Seti) stats on LHC they show a total of 35,715.90.
However if i add all the stats for the team myself they show a total of 54,642.35!

Is there something wrong with the stats in LHC?

Or am i missing something altogether?

Not had any members left but have actually had a couple of new members but even at that it doesnt account for the difference in the totals.


Not all personal credit goes to the team total, only what is accumliated from the join time. This is true for all projects except CPDN.

For example (numbers made up for example)
I have total of 20,000 credit, joined team at 5,000, then team is credited with 15,000 credit.
Hope this clears things up
4) Message boards : Number crunching : How long to wait before work is available? (Message 13472)
Posted 28 Apr 2006 by Profile peterthomas
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I always found the 2 Panadine Forte plus 1/2 bottle of scotch would put me right to sleep without any problems. :)
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Is the user base/project participants growing a bit too large, for our server? (Message 13471)
Posted 28 Apr 2006 by Profile peterthomas
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I have four othe projects attacked but still no luck.
I have no work from any of them. besides one evey other week.


Einstein@home, Sztaki Desktop Grid, Rosetta@home, BOINC Simap, etc.

All of those have plenty of work.


Not to mention CPDN, but their WU's can take up to 3000 hours of continous crunching to complete.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : CPID Change? (Message 13275)
Posted 8 Apr 2006 by Profile peterthomas
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With the new (v 5+) clients the CPID should settle down to the one currently held by your oldest (first to register) current (still downloading work) project - on older clients the rules were different.

River~~

ps - good to see you still around the boards here Peter ;-)


Boy did I get a reaction on the one day that I was messed up. Some REAL GOOD pain killers. Memo to self, stay off the forums when have a migrane. :)

Also about the CPID settleing down, from memory should only take about 2 to four days, deffinatly ont longer than a week.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : CPID Change? (Message 13255)
Posted 7 Apr 2006 by Profile peterthomas
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Simple question, can it be done? I would like to be able to link all of my stats together and this project has a different cpid from my others. I'm not really sure how it happened.


This happens when you connect to a project.

If you have this new project running as well as the others on a single system then it should even out by itself in a few days.

I think that for a farm, it is a good idea to have one system attached to all projects you are donating to. This system will thus control your CPID. The other boxes can then be switched around acording to your taste.

Hope this helps.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Work caches (Message 13243)
Posted 5 Apr 2006 by Profile peterthomas
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In any case, as you probably know, BOINC has no limit on duplicate names

River~~


Thanks River.
I did not know about this, Could have just stuck with my first name. Oh well I'll just leave it as is now.
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Work caches (Message 13238)
Posted 5 Apr 2006 by Profile peterthomas
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Why are some people keeping enormous work caches? Like this guy in here One computer

A bit over 500 WUs on a Pentium 4 3.0 GHz. Is there any sense?


Well over a hundred (I stopped counting) will hit the deadline tomorrow and since he`s doing less than 10 a day!!!!!!!!!!. Maybe the admin people could stop this happening. Theres worse offenders in other projects, one in Simap with 1700 just timeing out while I wait (pending credit) for the wu to be re-issued.


I seem to remember some other problems with this user, (I think it's the same one, same user name.)

One system owned by Anonymous was reporting benchmarks of 99999 ops/sec.

I don't know it this is the same person.
10) Message boards : Cafe LHC : any thoughts on growing planets? (Message 13141)
Posted 27 Mar 2006 by Profile peterthomas
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Junk.

If the earth is growing, where is the matter coming from?

Why is it that the Pacific is shrinking measurably? Where is it going?

As I said: junk!



Maybe/Maybe not.

Question 1.
The amount of debris that hits the earth from space each year is rather large. Not all reaches the ground in fact most burns up in the atmosphere but that matter is still added to the earth total.

Question 2.
The Atlantic is growing as caused by the mid Atlantic oceanic ridge. ie Europe and the Americas are getting further apart. The pacific plate is moving roughly NorthWest to compensate, look at the San Andreas Fault and the Hawaian Islands for evidence, while the Australian plate is moving NorthEast. This adds up to a shrinking Pacific ocean.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Not HAPPY people. (Message 13065)
Posted 19 Mar 2006 by Profile peterthomas
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Maybe its just a case of sour grapes but after no work for almost a month I think that it is justified.

Having my systems hammering away at LHC@home for work and only getting the usual response is not only wasteing my bandwith but also putting excess load on the project servers. This is not good.

Several times it has been suggested to run concurrent studies in an attempt to create more work, this however has not come to be.

Sadly it appears that this is like any other volunteer organisation in its hurry up and wait attitude. The project asked for all its participants and now they don't know what to do with them.

Due to this, I feel that my efforts and resources could be better used by other projects. This is not something that I want to do as a like the LHC project.

I'll wait and see what happens this week before making a final decision on wheather I remain donating resources to this project.
12) Message boards : Cafe LHC : Good Luck Chrulle (Message 13013)
Posted 13 Mar 2006 by Profile peterthomas
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Chrulle said (elsewhere)
On a more personal note I will leave Cern at the end of the month. I do not yet know who will take over the day to day server administration, but i expect Ben will look in on the message boards from time to time.

I know some people have already expressed good wishes for your future, Chrulle, and I'd like to join in. I have enjoyed the fact that our paths crossed briefly on LHC@home and I feel sure you will be an asset wherever you go next.

All the best,
River~~


Ditto
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Pending credit: 5,499.10 (Message 13012)
Posted 13 Mar 2006 by Profile peterthomas
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Why do i have so much pending credits ?
(Pending credit: 5,499.10)

Is the validator not working correct ?

ADMINS do something about this problem!!!!


I don't think there is a problem.
You are posting a RAC of 1,046 and a pending credit queue of 5,499.10. that is only about 5 days worth.
It just means that the other people that got the same work units are not able to work through them as quick as you are, i.e you are waiting on a quorm.

Because the deadline on workunits is about 10 to 14 days (I think, not sure) you can see where the delay is.

This is really not something to worry about though, as they will validate eventually, might just take a couple of days.

Peter
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Unofficial BOINC Wiki closing 2006-03-31 (Message 12885)
Posted 26 Feb 2006 by Profile peterthomas
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Paul
Thanks for all of your efforts.

Since I became involved with BOINC, your answers to questions have always been of value and assistance.

Your views on other matters have been thought provoking in interesting. Even if I did not understand them all. ;)

Your presence and efforts will be sorely missed.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc farms. (Message 12822)
Posted 22 Feb 2006 by Profile peterthomas
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Using a Watt/Hr meter, I estimate I'm using around $65 a month. But then I'm running nine computers 24/7.


I presume you (and most everyone else) has their monitors off?


I'm using a good ole KVM. Niffty little gadget that means I don't need more than one keyboard,monitor,mouse combination.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : account credits database error (Message 12444)
Posted 26 Jan 2006 by Profile peterthomas
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Ok Guys.
It appears that not all of the results crunched while DB was down have been recorded for me.

I currently have 12 WU's left on my machines but there are more results (about 18) outstanding on my results pages.

Will this fix itself or what do i need to do.

Peter

Link is
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Outcome: success, reported as #4 of 5 - but credit is pending (Message 12397)
Posted 25 Jan 2006 by Profile peterthomas
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Thanks for the suggestion River~~
Links are as follows
Group one
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1010450

http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=970133

http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=962638

http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=988355

http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=966312


Group two
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1068893

http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1069298

http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1069823

http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1069828

http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1069833

http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1069834

Sorry about the missing links in the first post
Peter
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Outcome: success, reported as #4 of 5 - but credit is pending (Message 12391)
Posted 25 Jan 2006 by Profile peterthomas
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Hey Guys,
I have the same problem with these WU's
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1010450
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=970133
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=962638
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=988355
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=966312

Also these WU's are not validating with the Quorum of three,
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1068893
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1069298
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1069823
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1069828
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1069833
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1069834

This situation is rather strange but given that it equates to about 195 pending credit I would like to know.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : going, Going, ........ , GONE. (Message 12345)
Posted 24 Jan 2006 by Profile peterthomas
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About 600K WU crunched in under 2 weeks. The physicits at the LHC and CERN should have smiles on their faces.
20) Message boards : Number crunching : New work when? (Message 11951)
Posted 14 Jan 2006 by Profile peterthomas
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Maybe they wait for 1000000 workunits a nice big number :-)


Let's hope than that those WU don't have an error and go ballastic.


OK guys, lets run a little lottery. A mythical trillion credit note to the winner who correctly guesses at what number the WU's get released.

Standard rules apply ie not LHC employees may enter.


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