Posts by Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Checklist Version 3 for Atlas@Home (and other VM-based Projects) on your PC (Message 40293) Posted 27 Oct 2019 by Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Post: Virtualbox (5.2.8) installed, CPU does not have hardware virtualization support Hello everyone. I am having difficulties geting Virtualbox (5.2.8) to run. my computer skills are weak. I'm still learing :) I can't figure this one out :( any guidance, suggestions, advice, would be greatly appreciated, BOINC 7.14.2 not installed as service. Editon --------- Windows 10 Pro for Workstations Version -------- 1903 installed on --- 2019-08-27 OS Build ------- 18362.295 COMPUTER IS American Megatrends Inc. BIOS Version: 3016 H11OM-C in your BOINC top level directory you will find a file called client_state.xml. Open this file with a simple editor (eg Notepad on Windows) and look for this line: <p_vm_extensions_disabled>1</p_vm_extensions_disabled> You need to change the 1 to a 0 (zero) This line is usually absent from the file unless you have tried to run VBox tasks without having enabled the Virtualisation (VT-X in Windows) beforehand. So line should look like this after you've changed it: <p_vm_extensions_disabled>0</p_vm_extensions_disabled> Save the file. The file needs to be in plain text so using a fancy editor that leaves formatting characters will mess it up. Restart BOINC and get more tasks, they should then work. Virtualization Virtualbox (5.2.8) installed, CPU does not have hardware virtualization support
2) Message boards : Team invites : team Carl Sagan (Message 40291) Posted 26 Oct 2019 by Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Post: Come and join team Carl Sagan :) https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/team_display.php?teamid=113
3) Message boards : Cafe LHC : the hello thread :) (Message 40151) Posted 14 Oct 2019 by Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Post: hello from Vancouver Canada :)
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Virtualbox (5.2.8) installed, CPU has hardware virtualization support but it is disabled. how do I enable? (Message 39168) Posted 22 Jun 2019 by Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Post: thank you.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Virtualbox (5.2.8) installed, CPU has hardware virtualization support but it is disabled. how do I enable? (Message 39162) Posted 22 Jun 2019 by Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Post: Window 10 x64 Pro BOING 7.14.2 Virtualization Virtualbox (5.2.8) installed, CPU has hardware virtualization support but it is disabled how do I enable? any help, hints would be greatly appreciated Best Wishes Best Whishes, Byron.
6) Message boards : Team invites : team Carl Sagan (Message 27681) Posted 30 Jan 2016 by Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Post: thank you to all of our team members crunching for team Carl Sagan :) Best Wishes Byron
7) Message boards : LHC@home Science : Cern NEWS (Message 23758) Posted 2 Dec 2011 by Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Post: CERN bulletin 49-50/2011 released http://cdsweb.cern.ch/journal/CERNBulletin/2011/50/News%20Articles/?ln=en
8) Message boards : LHC@home Science : Second CERN experiment confirms faster-than-light particles (Message 23726) Posted 20 Nov 2011 by Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Post: Thank you Tom. Here is an other write up in Nature: http://www.nature.com/news/neutrino-experiment-replicates-faster-than-light-finding-1.9393 Neutrino experiment replicates faster-than-light finding Latest data show the subatomic particles continue to break the speed limit.Eugenie Samuel Reich 18 November 2011 Physicists have replicated the finding that the subatomic particles called neutrinos seem to travel faster than light. It is a remarkable confirmation of a stunning result, yet most in the field remain sceptical that the ultimate cosmic speed limit has truly been broken.
9) Message boards : Cafe LHC : CERN / LHC on BBC TV (Message 23658) Posted 6 Nov 2011 by Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Post: It'll be re-broadcast several times over the weekend (schedule), and available for at least a week on the BBC iPlayer. I'd recommend it to anyone interested in the LHC, or any sort of fundamental physics research. They don't specifically mention the volunteer computing (BOINC) input into the LHC design, though there is some discussion and some brief images of the on-site Grid computing resources for post-processing collision data. Thank you for this link. I can get BBC here on the west coast of Canada so I will check it out.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : error -177 resource limit exceeded (Message 23121) Posted 18 Sep 2011 by Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Post: Report back if that helps, then we will know. Yes thank you Keith ... will do I now have 8 of the SixTrack 503.08 crunching with no problems on my DELL Workstation ... 8 CPU's with no HT
11) Message boards : Number crunching : error -177 resource limit exceeded (Message 23118) Posted 18 Sep 2011 by Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Post: Just a thought, do you guys have your "write to disk" interval at some small number, maybe it is checkpointing way too often and creating a large file. I use 900 seconds which is 15 minutes. ah ... yes good thinking and catch ... I have: Tasks checkpoint to disk at most every 60 seconds I'll change mine to 900 seconds ... and see if that helps :)
12) Message boards : Number crunching : error -177 resource limit exceeded (Message 23113) Posted 18 Sep 2011 by Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Post: Client state Compute error Exit status -177 (0xffffffffffffff4f) This is a client error, not project error. See bonic wiki for error codes at http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Error_Code -177 = ERR_RSC_LIMIT_EXCEEDED = resource limit exceeded This means you need to allocate more resource space, in this case disk space. Either adjsut/raise your preferences or you need to delete some junk to free up space. Detach old projects that arn't being used but taking up space. Hmm .... that's strange because I have always told BOINC to use all the memory and Disk it wants on my computer and this my new DELL WorkStation computer ... with tons of memory and disk space. My Computing preferences: for SixTrack and Test4Theory: Disk and memory usage: Use at most 542 GB disk space Leave at least: 0.001 GB disk space free (Values smaller than 0.001 are ignored) Use at most 100% of total disk space Tasks checkpoint to disk at most every 60 seconds Use at most 100% of page file (swap space) Use at most 100% of memory when computer is in use Use at most 100% of memory when computer is not in use my computer Number of processors 8 Coprocessors NVIDIA Quadro 2000 (961MB) driver: 27536 Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x86 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00) BOINC client version 6.12.34 Memory 3325.58 MB Cache 256 KB Swap space 6649.45 MB Total disk space 148.24 GB Free Disk Space 113.99 GB Hmmm ... what else could be wrong?
13) Message boards : Number crunching : error -177 resource limit exceeded (Message 23105) Posted 18 Sep 2011 by Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Post: Hello, just reporting on my computer the following: Name w3_weak3_collision_err_bb__2__s__64.31_59.32__8_10__6__69_1_sixvf_boinc178922_0 Workunit 82562 Created 18 Sep 2011 11:43:00 UTC Sent 18 Sep 2011 12:20:21 UTC Received 18 Sep 2011 18:13:48 UTC Server state Over Outcome Client error Client state Compute error Exit status -177 (0xffffffffffffff4f) Computer ID 9929916 Report deadline 25 Sep 2011 3:52:35 UTC Run time 21078.433136 CPU time 20669.91 <core_client_version>6.12.34</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <message> Maximum disk usage exceeded </message> <stderr_txt> Unhandled Exception Detected... - Unhandled Exception Record - Reason: Breakpoint Encountered (0x80000003) at address 0x75213E2E Engaging BOINC Windows Runtime Debugger... ****************** BOINC Windows Runtime Debugger Version 6.11.7 Dump Timestamp : 09/18/11 11:12:11 Install Directory : C:\Program Files\BOINC\ Data Directory : C:\ProgramData\BOINC Project Symstore : Loaded Library : C:\Program Files\BOINC\\dbghelp.dll Loaded Library : C:\Program Files\BOINC\\symsrv.dll Loaded Library : C:\Program Files\BOINC\\srcsrv.dll LoadLibraryA( C:\Program Files\BOINC\\version.dll ): GetLastError = 126 Loaded Library : version.dll Debugger Engine : 4.0.5.0 Symbol Search Path: C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\9;C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\lhcathomeclassic.cern.ch_sixtrack ModLoad: 00400000 04c64000 C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\lhcathomeclassic.cern.ch_sixtrack\sixtrack_530.8_windows_intelx86.exe (-nosymbols- Symbols Loaded) Linked PDB Filename : ModLoad: 76f90000 0013c000 C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll (6.1.7601.17514) (-exported- Symbols Loaded) Linked PDB Filename : ntdll.pdb File Version : 6.1.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255) Company Name : Microsoft Corporation Product Name : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Product Version : 6.1.7600.16385 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(-exported- Symbols Loaded) Linked PDB Filename : msvcrt.pdb File Version : 7.0.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255) Company Name : Microsoft Corporation Product Name : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Product Version : 7.0.7600.16385 ModLoad: 75780000 000a0000 C:\Windows\system32\ADVAPI32.dll (6.1.7601.17514) (-exported- Symbols Loaded) Linked PDB Filename : advapi32.pdb File Version : 6.1.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255) Company Name : Microsoft Corporation Product Name : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Product Version : 6.1.7600.16385 ModLoad: 75760000 00019000 C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\sechost.dll (6.1.7600.16385) (-exported- Symbols Loaded) Linked PDB Filename : sechost.pdb File Version : 6.1.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255) Company Name : Microsoft Corporation Product Name : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Product Version : 6.1.7600.16385 ModLoad: 76d80000 000a1000 C:\Windows\system32\RPCRT4.dll (6.1.7601.17514) (-exported- Symbols Loaded) Linked PDB Filename : rpcrt4.pdb File Version : 6.1.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255) Company Name : Microsoft Corporation Product Name : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Product Version : 6.1.7600.16385 ModLoad: 754a0000 0002a000 C:\Windows\system32\imagehlp.dll (6.1.7601.17514) (-exported- Symbols Loaded) Linked PDB Filename : imagehlp.pdb File Version : 6.1.7601.17514 (win7sp1_rtm.101119-1850) Company Name : Microsoft Corporation Product Name : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Product Version : 6.1.7601.17514 ModLoad: 75cb0000 0001f000 C:\Windows\system32\IMM32.DLL (6.1.7601.17514) (-exported- Symbols Loaded) Linked PDB Filename : imm32.pdb File Version : 6.1.7601.17514 (win7sp1_rtm.101119-1850) Company Name : Microsoft Corporation Product Name : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Product Version : 6.1.7601.17514 ModLoad: 75870000 000cc000 C:\Windows\system32\MSCTF.dll (6.1.7600.16385) (-exported- Symbols Loaded) Linked PDB Filename : msctf.pdb File Version : 6.1.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255) Company Name : Microsoft Corporation Product Name : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Product Version : 6.1.7600.16385 ModLoad: 65690000 00115000 C:\Program Files\BOINC\dbghelp.dll (6.8.4.0) (-exported- Symbols Loaded) Linked PDB Filename : dbghelp.pdb File Version : 6.8.0004.0 (debuggers(dbg).070515-1751) Company Name : Microsoft Corporation Product Name : Debugging Tools for Windows(R) Product Version : 6.8.0004.0 ModLoad: 64f40000 00048000 C:\Program Files\BOINC\symsrv.dll (6.8.4.0) (-exported- Symbols Loaded) Linked PDB Filename : symsrv.pdb File Version : 6.8.0004.0 (debuggers(dbg).070515-1751) Company Name : Microsoft Corporation Product Name : Debugging Tools for Windows(R) Product Version : 6.8.0004.0 ModLoad: 675a0000 0003b000 C:\Program Files\BOINC\srcsrv.dll (6.8.4.0) (-exported- Symbols Loaded) Linked PDB Filename : srcsrv.pdb File Version : 6.8.0004.0 (debuggers(dbg).070515-1751) Company Name : Microsoft Corporation Product Name : Debugging Tools for Windows(R) Product Version : 6.8.0004.0 ModLoad: 745c0000 00009000 C:\Windows\system32\version.dll (6.1.7600.16385) (-exported- Symbols Loaded) Linked PDB Filename : version.pdb File Version : 6.1.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255) Company Name : Microsoft Corporation Product Name : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Product Version : 6.1.7600.16385 * Dump of the Process Statistics: * - I/O Operations Counters - Read: 0, Write: 0, Other 0 - I/O Transfers Counters - Read: 0, Write: 0, Other 0 - Paged Pool Usage - QuotaPagedPoolUsage: 0, QuotaPeakPagedPoolUsage: 0 QuotaNonPagedPoolUsage: 0, QuotaPeakNonPagedPoolUsage: 0 - Virtual Memory Usage - VirtualSize: 0, PeakVirtualSize: 0 - Pagefile Usage - PagefileUsage: 0, PeakPagefileUsage: 0 - Working Set Size - WorkingSetSize: 0, PeakWorkingSetSize: 0, PageFaultCount: 0 * Dump of thread ID 3980 (state: Initialized): * - Information - Status: Base Priority: Normal, Priority: Normal, , Kernel Time: 0.000000, User Time: 0.000000, Wait Time: 0.000000 - Unhandled Exception Record - Reason: Breakpoint Encountered (0x80000003) at address 0x75213E2E - Registers - eax=00000000 ebx=00000001 ecx=0060b3c6 edx=0656613c esi=00000001 edi=00000000 eip=75213e2e esp=0656fa68 ebp=0656ff94 cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00000246 - Callstack - ChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child 0656ff94 76ff37f5 00000000 65ee29fc 00000000 00000000 KERNELBASE!DebugBreak+0x0 0656ffd4 76ff37c8 0053f660 00000000 00000000 00000000 ntdll!RtlInitializeExceptionChain+0x0 0656ffec 00000000 0053f660 00000000 00000000 4c9d5ab9 ntdll!RtlInitializeExceptionChain+0x0 * Dump of thread ID 4776 (state: Initialized): * - Information - Status: Base Priority: Normal, Priority: Normal, , Kernel Time: 0.000000, User Time: 0.000000, Wait Time: 0.000000 - Registers - eax=0000001c ebx=000e1a77 ecx=000001b0 edx=0000001f esi=00003085 edi=000014b7 eip=004cf9c5 esp=0012be40 ebp=0012c4e8 cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00000203 - Callstack - ChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child 0012c4e8 004b47f3 00000050 00000002 00000050 00000008 sixtrack_530.8_windows_intelx86!+0x0 0012c724 0040a7fb 0012ced4 00000000 00000000 00000000 sixtrack_530.8_windows_intelx86!+0x0 0012fdf8 0040101f 00000000 0012fe44 0012ff40 00252e58 sixtrack_530.8_windows_intelx86!+0x0 0012fe78 005ea093 0012ff38 00000000 00001db1 00000002 sixtrack_530.8_windows_intelx86!+0x0 0012fef8 005c684a 005f42b4 756cfcdd 005f25a0 0012fef8 sixtrack_530.8_windows_intelx86!+0x0 0012ff88 756ced6c 7ffd3000 0012ffd4 76ff37f5 7ffd3000 sixtrack_530.8_windows_intelx86!+0x0 0012ff94 76ff37f5 7ffd3000 63aa29fc 00000000 00000000 kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0x0 0012ffd4 76ff37c8 005c68a1 7ffd3000 00000000 00000000 ntdll!RtlInitializeExceptionChain+0x0 0012ffec 00000000 005c68a1 7ffd3000 00000000 78746341 ntdll!RtlInitializeExceptionChain+0x0 * Debug Message Dump ** * Foreground Window Data *** Window Name : Window Class : Window Process ID: 0 Window Thread ID : 0 Exiting... </stderr_txt> ]]>
14) Message boards : Team invites : Carl Sagan an invitation to Join team Carl Sagan (Message 22902) Posted 5 Sep 2011 by Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Post: an invitation to Join team Carl Sagan Carl Sagan Astronomer 1934 - 1996 May his Humanity, his Eloquence and his Passion for Science and for Life - - Live forever! Every time I read, watch or listen to Carl Sagan I am filled with renewed hope for humanity and a deeper wonder about this universe. I think that the Large Hadron Collider, is truly a great human adventure! it's one of the scientific experiments that most excites the imagination of people worldwide. I am pleased to be allowed to participate in this scientific experiment SIXTRACK - aka - LHC@Home 1.0 . If you are considering joining a team but don't have any idea where to start, you must first ask your self, why is it I am crunching work units for SIXTRACK - aka - LHC@Home 1.0 If the answer is the same as the team members of Carl Sagan, It's because at some point in your life, you became very interested in science. For most if not all of the members of the Carl Sagan team, it was the late Doctor's extraordinary insight that set people like us in motion to learn more about the cosmos. The members of the Carl Sagan team wish you the very best in your quest for more knowledge and understanding of the cosmos and science. If you do not chose to join our team at this time, that, ok too :) All of us in the team here are just happy you are active in SIXTRACK - aka - LHC@Home 1.0 It is a very important science project. If you would like to join our team.. Its very easy : Visit our Carl Sagan team page. Scroll down the web page near the bottom ... to where you "see" Country: International Type None then you will "see": a Link "Join this team" Click that Link ... and that's it ... you are now Member of team Carl Sagan :) ... for Carl
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Just reporting some good news :-) (Message 22889) Posted 5 Sep 2011 by Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Post: WOW !! Nice to see you all !! Hello every one _ Just reporting some good news :-) one of my three computers just successfully completed two task from SIXTRACK - aka - LHC@Home 1.0 http://lhcathomeclassic.cern.ch/sixtrack/results.php?hostid=9929916 http://lhcathomeclassic.cern.ch/sixtrack/results.php?hostid=9929916 any one else ?
16) Message boards : Team invites : Carl Sagan an invitation to Join team Carl Sagan (Message 22888) Posted 5 Sep 2011 by Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Post: an invitation to Join team Carl Sagan Carl Sagan Astronomer 1934 - 1996 May his Humanity, his Eloquence and his Passion for Science and for Life - - Live forever! Every time I read, watch or listen to Carl Sagan I am filled with renewed hope for humanity and a deeper wonder about this universe. I think that the Large Hadron Collider, is truly a great human adventure! it's one of the scientific experiments that most excites the imagination of people worldwide. I am pleased to be allowed to participate in this scientific experiment SIXTRACK - aka - LHC@Home 1.0 . If you are considering joining a team but don't have any idea where to start, you must first ask your self, why is it I am crunching work units for SIXTRACK - aka - LHC@Home 1.0 If the answer is the same as the team members of Carl Sagan, It's because at some point in your life, you became very interested in science. For most if not all of the members of the Carl Sagan team, it was the late Doctor's extraordinary insight that set people like us in motion to learn more about the cosmos. The members of the Carl Sagan team wish you the very best in your quest for more knowledge and understanding of the cosmos and science. If you do not chose to join our team at this time, that, ok too :) All of us in the team here are just happy you are active in SIXTRACK - aka - LHC@Home 1.0 It is a very important science project. If you would like to join our team.. Its very easy : Visit our Carl Sagan team page. Scroll down the web page near the bottom ... to where you "see" Country: International Type None then you will "see": a Link "Join this team" Click that Link ... and that's it ... you are now Member of team Carl Sagan :) ... for Carl
17) Message boards : LHC@home Science : First LHC Magnet in place. (Message 6533) Posted 12 Mar 2005 by Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Post: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4327161.stm > > " Cern tunnel machine gets key part<p>The first of some 5,000 magnets that > will bend particles at near light-speed around a huge tunnel under Switzerland > has been lowered into place ..." > ===================== Hi Alex thank you very much for that update My Very Best wishes to everyone ......... and keep on crunching :) friendly and respectful byron ... [/url] _ Earth Flag
18) Message boards : LHC@home Science : Hans Bethe (Message 6532) Posted 12 Mar 2005 by Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Post: Passed away Monday. Truly one of the great physicists. Nobel prize winner in 1967 <B>http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/03/07/hans.bethe.ap/</B> [/url] _ Earth Flag
19) Message boards : LHC@home Science : LHC and Muon?? (Message 5292) Posted 21 Nov 2004 by Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Post: hi ric ... ric wrote: > Hi Byron, > Very pleased to see you here! > Thank you. > > On the other way, nearly every time I read You, a small bit of > sadness comes in. Why? . As a little boy, aged, of 11, my loved parents took > me > with to Toronto (sister lives there) and then we wend to Vancouver BC. > Trip over Rocky Mountain to Calgary (3 Week). A Time I never forgotten, even > if the remebering is still there, for ever. > CANADA is one of the most wonderfull "areas" ever had the luck to visite. ============================ to all: __ very sorry , slightly off the topic (LHC and Muon??) _ I do apologize. :) Hi ric and Hi Magic thank you both so very , very much , for your very kind words. I do appreciate your kind thoughts greatly, I apologize for taking soo long to answer your posts. __ ric , you are very observant , " ric wrote " nearly every time I read You, a small bit of sadness comes in. Why? . ric , I do not know the answer to your question ? I think i have been that way all my life , i think by nature i am a very quite person and bit reserved Pearson _ but i am just so happy to be involved with science in a small way , with so many good people like , ric , Magic , Janus , the Big Jens , Sir Ulli , Ulrich Metzner , from Germany , Bruno from Italy , David P. Anderson from America , Liberto [Valencia] from Spain and so many , many more good people from all over our tiny planet earth __ :) ...... ric , i truly admire people like your self , who speak soo many languages , English , Germany and French . i saw you speaking French to Marc , over at caf� seti _ The CHRISTMAS thread in French , good for you ric _ ;-) ... ric you English is very , Good , i wish i could speak even a little German , so i could speak to you in German _ :) __ [ but i am going to learn how to speak German and French _ :) ] ___ my native language is English , and my English language skills , grammar and spelling , are very , very poor __ :( ... i wish i could speak German or French or Spanish or Italian .. but i will try __ and do my very best _ :) .. please excuse my English grammar and spelling .. __________ <A><B> ric </B>[/url] and <A><B> Magic </B>[/url] thank you both for your Humanity and your Eloquence , and your courage to do the right thing. We need more people like you in the world today. __ Only when , we humans have learned , that we all share this tiny little planet Earth together __ will we truly come together as a family and learn the humility, beauty and strength of who we are. Shalom Aleychem Friendly and respectful byron :)
20) Message boards : LHC@home Science : LHC and Muon?? (Message 5233) Posted 18 Nov 2004 by Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Post: Greetings to _ric_ in Switzerland __ from_byron_ in Canada [ Pacific West Coast Canada ] Greetings to *_JAHMAGIC_ [ Samson Ben Yoseph* ] in Israel__ Quantum Physics/Astrophysics Professor Electronics Engineer (retired)(I.C.M. Electronics) Computer Programmer from_byron_in Canada [ Pacific West Coast Canada ] @ _ric_ thank you very much for that link Re: ---Atlas Muon Spectrometer Sofeware and Perforance. @ _JAHMAGIC_ [ Samson Ben Yoseph ] thank you very much for that link Re: --- The Particle Adventure of Fundamentals of Matter and Force. Albert Einstein --- Wrote the following: <P> 'The human mind is not capable of <BR>grasping the Universe. We are like a <BR>little child entering a huge library. The walls <BR>are covered to the ceilings with books in<BR> many different tongues. The child knows that<BR> someone must have written these books.<BR> It does not know who or how. <BR>It does not understand the languages in which <BR>they are written. But the child notes a <BR>definite plan in the arrangement of the books a <BR>mysterious order which it does not comprehend, <BR>but only dimly suspects <P> 'A human being is a part of a whole,</BR> called by us humans as the _universe_, </BR> a part limited in time and space.</BR> we humans experiences our selfs , our thoughts and feelings </BR> as something separated from the rest... </BR> a kind of optical delusion of our consciousness. </BR> This delusion is a kind of prison for us humans ,</BR> restricting us to our personal desires and to affection </BR> for a few persons nearest to us. </BR> our task , as humans there for , </BR> must be to free ourselves from this prison </BR> by widening our circle of compassion </BR> to embrace all living creatures and , </BR> the whole of nature in its beauty.' <P> Albert Einstein <P> Sincere , Very Best Wishes , and peace to All. byron**

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