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Message 4129 - Posted: 22 Oct 2004, 21:53:54 UTC
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Did LHC@Home actually hit 5000 users before the limit increase? The stats pages do not reflect this:


From http://www.boincstats.com/:
LHC@Home stats:
XML date: 2004-10-22 16:05:07 GMT
Totals: Last Day:
Users 4,199 7
Hosts 9,229 44
Teams 412 1
Countries 86 0
Total Credit 6,919,034 203,266

From url=http://www.boinc.dk/index.php?page=stats_project_astropulse&project=lhcah:
Name LHC@home
Cobblestones 6920522.845537
(63 years, 73 days, 9 hours, 49 min. and 40 sec. RCT)
Recent 202919.395655
Hosts 9321
Users 4213
Teams 416
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Message 4130 - Posted: 22 Oct 2004, 22:02:18 UTC - in response to Message 4129.  
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Message 4131 - Posted: 22 Oct 2004, 22:28:11 UTC - in response to Message 4130.  

> I believe they did but about 800 dropped the project after that.
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Actually, the stats only reflect the number of ACTIVE users. At its high there were 4,217 active (completed at least one work unit) users before they opened the limit to 6,000 today.
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Message 4137 - Posted: 23 Oct 2004, 6:43:24 UTC

I don't care how many users are really active.

I just wanted to say thank you to LHC@Home Team!
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Message 4145 - Posted: 23 Oct 2004, 10:43:01 UTC

Take a look at the country stats here Totals are right at the bottom.

At the time of posting total registered users is 5221.


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Message 4147 - Posted: 23 Oct 2004, 11:07:10 UTC

How will LHC manage to get 50000 user?




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Message 4149 - Posted: 23 Oct 2004, 11:13:49 UTC
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How will LHC manage to get 50000 user?
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I don't think they will ever hit 50,000 Users, but I may be wrong. I really don't think theres enough interest in the Project other than as a backup Project to Seti or CPDN ...

That and the fact if they ever did hit 50,000 Users they are going to need a lot more & or better Hardware than they have now.

They can't handle 5,000 Users right now with out running into Performance Issues or Data Overloads quite frequently ... They were down or very very very slow most of the night because of just the 1000 increase in Users I suspect with all of them wanting to get work units and accessing the site ...

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Message 4153 - Posted: 23 Oct 2004, 11:59:36 UTC - in response to Message 4149.  

> How will LHC manage to get 50000 user?
> ==========
>
> I don't think they will ever hit 50,000 Users, but I may be wrong. I really
> don't think theres enough interest in the Project other than as a backup
> Project to Seti or CPDN ...
>
> That and the fact if they ever did hit 50,000 Users they are going to need a
> lot more & or better Hardware than they have now.
>
> They can't handle 5,000 Users right now with out running into Performance
> Issues or Data Overloads quite frequently ... They were down or very very very
> slow most of the night because of just the 1000 increase in Users I suspect
> with all of them wanting to get work units and accessing the site ...
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>
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I have SETI has my backup project
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Message 4154 - Posted: 23 Oct 2004, 12:07:58 UTC
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I have SETI has my backup project
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Yes, but the most of the 50,000 users over at Seti Have LHC as a Backup. I havn't even bothered to run Seti in quite awhile even though I have close to 50,000 credits over there.

Any more I'm just running LHC and using CPDN as a backup with over to 35,000 credits there already ... :)



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Message 4158 - Posted: 23 Oct 2004, 13:02:37 UTC


rutsch mer doch dr Buckel na -the jokes must go on
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Message 4247 - Posted: 24 Oct 2004, 17:00:20 UTC - in response to Message 4145.  

> Take a look at the country stats <a> href="http://lhcathome.cern.ch/country_stats.html">here[/url] Totals are right
> at the bottom.
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> At the time of posting total registered users is 5221.
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> <img> src="http://www.boincstats.com/stats/banner.php?cpid=04522e30d784bdab1278c532eff7f473">
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Why is there a discrepency between the LHC@Home stats and the information they are providing to third party websites for statistics?


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Message 4249 - Posted: 24 Oct 2004, 17:05:11 UTC - in response to Message 4247.  


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> Why is there a discrepency between the LHC@Home stats and the information they
> are providing to third party websites for statistics?
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I'm not sure there is a discrepancy - most of the stats sites report only active users - that is, users who have accrued some credit. The LHC@Home stats reflect registered users, some of whom may have not actually done any processing.


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Message 4258 - Posted: 24 Oct 2004, 18:31:19 UTC - in response to Message 4249.  

> I'm not sure there is a discrepancy - most of the stats sites report only
> active users - that is, users who have accrued some credit. The LHC@Home stats
> reflect registered users, some of whom may have not actually done any
> processing.

You are correct. At first seti exported EVERYONE in their XML files but because they imported 3.3 million users from seti classic, the file was 1 GB and was a pain to download and work with. So they took out all the users with 0 credit and this has carried over to the other projects as well by the looks of it. I wonder if BOINC provides any way of deleting accounts with 0 credit if they are older than say... 6 months? Would make sense to keep the database as compact as possible.


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Message 4268 - Posted: 25 Oct 2004, 1:34:40 UTC - in response to Message 4258.  

> > I'm not sure there is a discrepancy - most of the stats sites report
> only
> > active users - that is, users who have accrued some credit. The LHC@Home
> stats
> > reflect registered users, some of whom may have not actually done any
> > processing.
>
> You are correct. At first seti exported EVERYONE in their XML files but
> because they imported 3.3 million users from seti classic, the file was 1 GB
> and was a pain to download and work with. So they took out all the users with
> 0 credit and this has carried over to the other projects as well by the looks
> of it. I wonder if BOINC provides any way of deleting accounts with 0 credit
> if they are older than say... 6 months? Would make sense to keep the
> database as compact as possible.
>

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They don't want to clear the 0 credit accounts at S@H until sometime after they close S@H classic. I expect that there will be some mechanism to do something like this eventually.
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Message 4342 - Posted: 25 Oct 2004, 21:21:02 UTC

It makes sense to me now... thanks for the explanations!
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