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Message 53196 - Posted: 19 Mar 2026, 16:51:06 UTC - in response to Message 53195.  
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Yes,

I didn't get any Theroy vbox at the moment but has in the past

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Message 53201 - Posted: 19 Mar 2026, 19:37:51 UTC

3/19/2026 12:29:47 PM | LHC@home | [error] Error reported by file upload server: Server is out of disk space
I have 3 Dockers doing this
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Message 53205 - Posted: 19 Mar 2026, 21:15:42 UTC - in response to Message 53201.  

I see it is not just Dockers since I have 15 of those and all the Atlas doing the same thing
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Message 53219 - Posted: 20 Mar 2026, 12:49:32 UTC

I have a Vbox one stuck the same way.
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Message 53221 - Posted: 20 Mar 2026, 14:22:46 UTC - in response to Message 53189.  

Thank you for the reply - I will stay this one until completion
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Message 53225 - Posted: 21 Mar 2026, 12:58:34 UTC

I have the latest Windows 11, the latest BUDA/WSL, and the latest Virtualbox. My intention is to run any WSL stuff you have, but do virtualbox if that's all you have. Is this setup correct? At the moment I'm getting nothing, even though I see (presumably VB) tasks in your CMS queue.

Gemini (which has been known to be wrong!) suggests I should untick the box to mean "WSL preferred", and by ticking it I mean "WSL only".

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Message 53226 - Posted: 21 Mar 2026, 13:55:56 UTC - in response to Message 53225.  

You can not run virtualbox and WSL at the same time on windows, in windows WSL requires hyper-v but Virtualbox does not work with this enabled.

The recomendation from BOINC team is on windows stick with Vbox, I imagine that LHC will migrate everything to docker/podman then we can switch our windows machines over.
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Message 53227 - Posted: 21 Mar 2026, 17:52:44 UTC - in response to Message 53226.  
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In reply to Toby Broom's message of 21 Mar 2026:
You can not run virtualbox and WSL at the same time on windows, in windows WSL requires hyper-v but Virtualbox does not work with this enabled.

The recomendation from BOINC team is on windows stick with Vbox, I imagine that LHC will migrate everything to docker/podman then we can switch our windows machines over.

But you have both running in your screenshot.

And Gemini told me the newest VB will run (but slower) with Hyper-V enabled - something to do with a tortoise symbol?
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Message 53228 - Posted: 22 Mar 2026, 2:30:19 UTC - in response to Message 53227.  

Yes. Hyper-V takes exclusive control over your CPU hardware virtualization (VMX/AMD-V). VirtualBox and Hyper-V can't share hardware virtualization together. So VirtualBox falls back to a software based emulation mode which makes it run much more slowly. Even if you disable Hyper-V, Windows 11 memory protection uses Hyper-V so it doesn't really stop running. My understanding is that it is a hassle to disable Hyper-V completely.

Running Hyper-V together with VB is supposedly a new experimental feature of VirtualBox. But it does come with a performance penalty.
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Message 53229 - Posted: 22 Mar 2026, 6:21:20 UTC - in response to Message 53226.  

In reply to Toby Broom's message of 21 Mar 2026:
... I imagine that LHC will migrate everything to docker/podman then we can switch our windows machines over.
why would they do this?
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Message 53231 - Posted: 22 Mar 2026, 11:34:40 UTC - in response to Message 53229.  

In reply to Erich56's message of 22 Mar 2026:
In reply to Toby Broom's message of 21 Mar 2026:
... I imagine that LHC will migrate everything to docker/podman then we can switch our windows machines over.
why would they do this?

Because it gives a huge performance boost over the old fashioned Virtualbox.
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Message 53238 - Posted: 23 Mar 2026, 11:12:17 UTC - in response to Message 53231.  
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In reply to Mr P Hucker's message of 22 Mar 2026:
In reply to Erich56's message of 22 Mar 2026:
In reply to Toby Broom's message of 21 Mar 2026:
... I imagine that LHC will migrate everything to docker/podman then we can switch our windows machines over.
why would they do this?

Because it gives a huge performance boost over the old fashioned Virtualbox.


Computer ID 10598297
Laufzeit 13 Tage 7 Stunden 16 min. 39 sek.
CPU Zeit 11 Tage 3 Stunden 39 min. 47 sek.
Running in Vboxwrapper

Docker now first 100 Events after 7 day Initialisation.
Max. Events 28k.
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Message 53241 - Posted: 23 Mar 2026, 15:54:08 UTC - in response to Message 53238.  

In reply to maeax's message of 23 Mar 2026:
Computer ID 10598297
Laufzeit 13 Tage 7 Stunden 16 min. 39 sek.
CPU Zeit 11 Tage 3 Stunden 39 min. 47 sek.
Running in Vboxwrapper

Docker now first 100 Events after 7 day Initialisation.
Max. Events 28k.


What?! Are you saying it took 7 days to just start?! That's not inefficient, that's just broken, so not indicative of whether it's better or not. The bugs need sorted first.
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Message 53244 - Posted: 23 Mar 2026, 19:48:26 UTC - in response to Message 53241.  

===> [runRivet] Fri Mar 20 11:59:52 UTC 2026 [boinc pp z1j 13000 260 - herwig7 7.2.1 nlo-pw-dipole 28000 687]

Run herwig7 7.2.1 and Rivet ...
generatorExecString = ./rungen.sh boinc pp z1j 13000 260 - herwig7 7.2.1 nlo-pw-dipole 28000 687 /scratch/tmp/tmp.268NWpIWCD/generator.hepmc

atm 14100 events processed

Win11 Enterprise PC in combination with docker - podman.

My goal is to let it running as long it would be.
Hoping 10 days is not the limit.
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Message 53246 - Posted: 23 Mar 2026, 20:52:27 UTC

Still getting no docker stuff.... how do I get them?

Mon 23/03/2026 20:46:21 | LHC@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
Mon 23/03/2026 20:46:21 | LHC@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU
Mon 23/03/2026 20:46:32 | LHC@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Mon 23/03/2026 20:46:32 | LHC@home | No tasks sent

As my earlier screenshot, my prefs have everything turned on.
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Message 53247 - Posted: 23 Mar 2026, 21:35:52 UTC - in response to Message 53227.  

The mixed ones are running linux.
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Message 53248 - Posted: 23 Mar 2026, 21:56:34 UTC - in response to Message 53246.  

There may be an issue when you request work from all the sub-projects. I had the same problem until I turned them all off except Theory. Whereupon I got a task that said it would run in a matter of an hour or so, but in reality is showing 100% completion (BOINC progress), is actually at about integrate 340 of 760 and just under two days, so the back of my envelope suggests another 2 days at least to completion.

This is the last work I'll be having from LHC until such time as they can clearly demonstrate that the initial estimates are about right.....

(Windows 10, vbox64:
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/show_host_detail.php?hostid=10787143
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Message 53249 - Posted: 23 Mar 2026, 21:56:52 UTC - in response to Message 53247.  

In reply to Toby Broom's message of 23 Mar 2026:
The mixed ones are running linux.

So is it possible to get some buda ones for my windows 11 PCs? Server says no tasks.
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Message 53250 - Posted: 23 Mar 2026, 21:58:28 UTC - in response to Message 53248.  

In reply to rob's message of 23 Mar 2026:
There may be an issue when you request work from all the sub-projects. I had the same problem until I turned them all off except Theory. Whereupon I got a task that said it would run in a matter of an hour or so, but in reality is showing 100% completion (BOINC progress), is actually at about integrate 340 of 760 and just under two days, so the back of my envelope suggests another 2 days at least to completion.

This is the last work I'll be having from LHC until such time as they can clearly demonstrate that the initial estimates are about right.....

(Windows 10, vbox64:
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/show_host_detail.php?hostid=10787143

I'd try that, but Theory is empty.
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Message 53251 - Posted: 24 Mar 2026, 5:09:16 UTC

program: podman
command output:
Untagged: localhost/boinc__lhcathome.cern.ch_lhcathome__theory_2922-4889155-687:latest
EOM
2026-03-24 03:49:38 (1316): called boinc_finish(0)

marked as invalid —- W H Y?
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