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Boinc and Docker
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 Send message Joined: 7 May 08 Posts: 222 Credit: 1,575,053 RAC: 3  
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Boinc developers are working to integrate natively Docker on Boinc platform. Benefits: portability, faster, use of gpus, easier maintenance, etc Are admins working with boinc developers to see if it is suitable for LHC@Home? |
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Send message Joined: 7 May 08 Posts: 222 Credit: 1,575,053 RAC: 3
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Seems that the work is progressing... - New philosophy: always query the presence of software (WSL distros, Docker) |
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Send message Joined: 7 May 08 Posts: 222 Credit: 1,575,053 RAC: 3
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They called it BUDA (BOINC Universal Docker Application) |
 microchip Send message Joined: 27 Jun 06 Posts: 8 Credit: 2,592,725 RAC: 165 
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Don't need no stincking Docker on Linux. Boinc runs just fine as is! |
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Send message Joined: 7 May 08 Posts: 222 Credit: 1,575,053 RAC: 3
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Don't need no stincking Docker on Linux. Boinc runs just fine as is! This feature is for Windows pcs (that are the absolute majority), but it's also for linux machine (if you have NOT a native linux app). |
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Send message Joined: 4 Sep 22 Posts: 95 Credit: 16,305,625 RAC: 12,056   
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Don't need no stincking Docker on Linux. Boinc runs just fine as is! Virtualbox runs just fine. I see no need for Docker. |
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Send message Joined: 3 Nov 12 Posts: 59 Credit: 143,400,230 RAC: 72,105 
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This feature is for Windows pcs (that are the absolute majority) Simply not true for LHC@home. See statistics page. |
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Send message Joined: 7 May 08 Posts: 222 Credit: 1,575,053 RAC: 3
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Virtualbox runs just fine. I see no need for Docker. Do you see the benchmarks between VirtualBox and Docker? Don't you like to have access to gpu for vm? No? Don't you like that, at administrative side, it's easier to maintain? |
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Send message Joined: 7 May 08 Posts: 222 Credit: 1,575,053 RAC: 3
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Simply not true for LHC@home. See statistics page. Only for LHC. If you see ALL others Boinc project, are ALL windows majority. P.S. By the way: what's the problem with Docker? it's a possibility that doesn't take anything away.... |
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PDW Send message Joined: 7 Aug 14 Posts: 27 Credit: 10,000,233 RAC: 19
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If you see ALL others Boinc project, are ALL windows majority.Not true. |
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Send message Joined: 7 May 08 Posts: 222 Credit: 1,575,053 RAC: 3
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Not true. Not false. LHC CMS app Windows Gflops: 5978 Windows Gflops: 2454 LHC Sixtrack app (hystorical) Windows Gflops: 156 Linux Gflops: 30 LHC Theory App (Virtualbox) WIndows Gflops: 3464 Linux Gflops: 935 Lhc-Dev CMS App Windows Gflops: 193 Linux Gflops: 42 Lhc-Dev Theory (Virtualbox) Windows Gflops: 12 Linux Gflops: 11 Rosetta@home Windows Gflops: 82.117 Linux Gflops: 24.011 Amicable Numbers Windows Gflops: 3.642.449 Linux Gflops: 1.119.574 Gerasim@home Windows Gflops: 4992 Linux Gflops: 2376 Milkyway@Home Windows Gflops: 61.278 Linux Gflops: 19.172 ODLK Windows Gflops: 3506 Linux Gflops: 3029 Sidock@Home Windows Gflops: 38627 Linux Gflops: 16500 Do you want me to continue? |
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PDW Send message Joined: 7 Aug 14 Posts: 27 Credit: 10,000,233 RAC: 19
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Not true. Yes, you said ALL. |
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Send message Joined: 7 May 08 Posts: 222 Credit: 1,575,053 RAC: 3
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Yes, you said ALL. Ok, not all, but the ultra-vast majority. So, what is the problem with Docker? |
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PDW Send message Joined: 7 Aug 14 Posts: 27 Credit: 10,000,233 RAC: 19
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Ok, not all, but the ultra-vast majority.Thank you. Personally, I run the Native apps. |
 Send message Joined: 7 Aug 11 Posts: 105 Credit: 25,705,962 RAC: 20,824
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Yes, you said ALL. Not even "ultra-vast majority". You know all those VBox apps are running Linux inside the VMs, right. |
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Send message Joined: 7 May 08 Posts: 222 Credit: 1,575,053 RAC: 3
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Personally, I run the Native apps. You are a lucky man. I have only Windows computers. And, if i can give more computational power to the boinc project only with simple change of the virtualization platform, i'm happy... |
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Send message Joined: 7 May 08 Posts: 222 Credit: 1,575,053 RAC: 3
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Not even "ultra-vast majority". Yes, it is. But i think this is not the topic of the thread. You know all those VBox apps are running Linux inside the VMs, right. So? Do you know the difference between VirtualBox on WIndows and Docker/WLS on Windows? |
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Send message Joined: 7 Aug 11 Posts: 105 Credit: 25,705,962 RAC: 20,824
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You consider that a "vast" difference. That pretty much settles the validity of the rest of your complaint. Enjoy your whinge. |
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Send message Joined: 7 May 08 Posts: 222 Credit: 1,575,053 RAC: 3
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You consider that a "vast" difference. That pretty much settles the validity of the rest of your complaint. Enjoy your whinge. Oh, my gosh. I'm NOT whinging. I'm only saing that in the vast part of the Boinc projects, the majority of computational power comes from Windows machines. This is a FACT. Is it a problem for you? But it is only a secondary point and, again, you're OFF TOPIC. The thread is about Docker and the advantages it does. |
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Send message Joined: 7 Aug 11 Posts: 105 Credit: 25,705,962 RAC: 20,824
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Nope, you're whinging, and you're also categorically wrong in your insistence on using the term "vast". Go find a dictionary and look it up. The word has a meaning. You are misusing it. The word "fact" also has a meaning and you're misusing that as well. Since the entire foundation of your whinge is objectively wrong, the singular reason to switch Windows machines from VBox to Docker, which is unnecessary anyway, would be to shut you up. Or you could just do that of your own volition and save CERN the effort of changing a system that only you are railing against. |
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