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Message 48329 - Posted: 2 Aug 2023, 4:58:27 UTC

First Threadripper are created 2017:
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/ryzen_threadripper?utm_content=cmp-true
How is it possible to see a Creationdate of a PC here in the Computerlist of Cern from 10 year ago?
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Message 48330 - Posted: 2 Aug 2023, 9:21:54 UTC - in response to Message 48329.  

I noticed a couple before and I think they said 2011 for a Threadripper
BUT I haven't figured out how to turn one of my old ones into Threadripper yet
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Message 48331 - Posted: 2 Aug 2023, 10:46:41 UTC - in response to Message 48330.  

BOINCstats show this Info:
First seen on 2021-03-20
CPU AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3995WX 64-Cores

LHCatHome show this Info:
Erstellt 5 Sep 2011, 0:39:25 UTC
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Message 48332 - Posted: 2 Aug 2023, 11:57:56 UTC - in response to Message 48331.  

35 - 40 Mio. Creditpoints per year seem ok.
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Message 48333 - Posted: 2 Aug 2023, 17:55:43 UTC
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To migrate an old computer to a new one you copy the files over, each computer has a GUID as long as this is the same then it stays the same.

I have for example this one:
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/show_host_detail.php?hostid=9930007

I just upgraded to this 13th Gen CPU. I switched OS's Win, Linux, OSX

Sometime I messed it up and didn't copy the files correctly and it made a new number like this one:

https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/show_host_detail.php?hostid=10831474

In theroy I assume you could get the GUID from here:

https://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=hostbycpid&cpid=b8d05e1ba92dd93637729e85dcc78930

the CPID is the unique number part, this could be used craft custom xml but I never felt I knew how to do.

e.g.
client_state>
<host_info>
    <timezone>7200</timezone>
    <domain_name>Desktop</domain_name>
    <ip_addr>192.168.1.154</ip_addr>
    <host_cpid>ffb2d91e216733d7daff1519162cda01</host_cpid>
    <p_ncpus>64</p_ncpus>
    <p_vendor>AuthenticAMD</p_vendor>
    <p_model>AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 5975WX 32-Cores [Family 25 Model 8 Stepping 2]</p_model>
    <p_features>fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movebe popcnt aes f16c rdrandsyscall nx lm avx avx2 svm sse4a osvw ibs skinit wdt tce topx page1gb rdtscp fsgsbase bmi1 smep bmi2</p_features>
    <p_fpops>5962179602.204318</p_fpops>
    <p_iops>27227319294.251579</p_iops>
    <p_membw>24390243.902439</p_membw>
    <p_calculated>1690636716.122911</p_calculated>
    <p_vm_extensions_disabled>0</p_vm_extensions_disabled>
    <m_nbytes>274711326720.000000</m_nbytes>
    <m_cache>524288.000000</m_cache>
    <m_swap>315513516032.000000</m_swap>
    <d_total>1799579762688.000000</d_total>
    <d_free>1179717206016.000000</d_free>
    <os_name>Microsoft Windows 11</os_name>
    <os_version>Pro for Workstations x64 Edition, (10.00.22621.00)</os_version>
    <n_usable_coprocs>1</n_usable_coprocs>
    <wsl_available>0</wsl_available>
    <virtualbox_version>7.0.10</virtualbox_version>
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Message 48334 - Posted: 3 Aug 2023, 5:15:52 UTC - in response to Message 48333.  

Toby, sorry,
have a big problem of understanding this.
In the Computerlist you can match Computer with the same Hardware and
retire this one you want to do.
So, why do you need this xml to do something like this?
No other Boinc Project have such a option to do this (WCG for example).
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Message 48335 - Posted: 3 Aug 2023, 18:18:23 UTC - in response to Message 48334.  

I imagine that you could take the CPID of an old computer can create a new xml file with the CPID of the old computer on a new computer to reuse the idenity and maintain credits of old computer.

I have many computer that I can't merge for reasons/
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Message 48752 - Posted: 4 Oct 2023, 10:44:55 UTC

The way I have done it in the past when I want to keep an existing id (this wont work on WCG actually not a lot works there)

Go to your LHC account and find the old host ID you want to use
Write down its ID number, then go into that hosts details and get the number of times it has contacted the server

Install BOINC on the new computer as per normal
Disconnect that computer from the Internet (unplug ethernet cable works)
Copy across the old LHC account file from the old host (or any other host with LHC) and place it in the BOINC folder of the new host
Start BOINC or restart BOINC (still with internet disconnected)
Then stop BOINC again.
Go to client_state.xml file and open for editing
Scroll to the project you want (LHC in this case)
Locate the line that says <rpc_seqno></rpc_seqno>
this is the number of times it has contacted the server, write the number you copied from the old host details between the >< and add 1,
so if the number is <rpc_seqno>2300</rpc_seqno> then you change it to 2301 on the new host (this important or it wont work)
Then locate the line <hostid></hostid>
And add in the id number of your old host.
Save the file.

Now you can reconnect the internet and restart BOINC and you should be reusing the same Host id you had before.
This works on most BOINC projects (not WCG or Gerasim, maybe some others)

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Message 48784 - Posted: 16 Oct 2023, 7:19:35 UTC - in response to Message 48334.  

Since today both Threadripper have the ISP-Speed they need:
DSL-Link
Synchron
Downstream
85,02 Mbit/s
Upstream
39,99 Mbit/s
5G- / LTE-Verbindung
Aktiv
Empfangsstärke 5G
-94.0 dBm (Band 1 / 2100 MHz)
Empfangsstärke LTE
-92.0 dBm (Band 3 / 1800 MHz)
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Message 48936 - Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 23:20:55 UTC - in response to Message 48784.  

40.000.000 creditpoints reached today:
THREAD3995 home 33,248.44 40,000,843
without adding from old PC's!!
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Message 48937 - Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 2:56:40 UTC - in response to Message 48752.  

Then locate the line <hostid></hostid>
And add in the id number of your old host.
Save the file.Conan


Very interesting Conan
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Message 49001 - Posted: 9 Dec 2023, 18:33:23 UTC - in response to Message 48936.  
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P620-3995 home 51,456.89 40,000,136
Today the second Threadripper have reached an honest Creditpoint of 40 Mio!
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Message 49901 - Posted: 6 Apr 2024, 12:46:16 UTC - in response to Message 49001.  

Both are AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3995WX 64-Cores
for this Theory_2743-2725636-2_0

Computer ID 10795955________________Computer ID 9930009
Laufzeit 5 Tage 11 Stunden 28 min. 21 sek._____Laufzeit 9 Tage 21 Stunden 50 min. 33 sek.
CPU Zeit 5 Tage 11 Stunden 28 min. 21 sek._CPU Zeit 9 Tage 21 Stunden 50 min. 33 sek.
Prüfungsstatus Gültig____________________Prüfungsstatus Ungültig
Punkte 5,034.67__________________________Punkte 0.00
max. FLOPS des Gerätes 4.60 GFLOPS______max. FLOPS des Gerätes 2.40 GFLOPS

One is Win11pro, the other Ubuntu 23.10.

Don't know why this difference for the same CPU's. FLOPS (?)
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