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Message 44674 - Posted: 7 Apr 2021, 18:01:50 UTC

Evidence is mounting that a tiny subatomic particle called a muon is disobeying the laws of physics as we thought we knew them, scientists announced on Wednesday.

The best explanation, physicists say, is that the muon is being influenced by forms of matter and energy that are not yet known to science, but which may nevertheless affect the nature and evolution of the universe. The new work, they said, could eventually lead to a breakthrough in our understanding of the universe more dramatic than the heralded discovery in 2012 of the Higgs boson, a particle that imbues other particles with mass.

Muons are akin to electrons but far heavier. When muons were subjected to an intense magnetic field in experiments performed at the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, or Fermilab, in Batavia, Ill., they wobbled like spinning tops in a manner slightly but stubbornly and inexplicably inconsistent with the most precise calculations currently available. The results confirmed results in similar experiments at the Brookhaven National Laboratory in 2001 that have tantalized physicists ever since.

“This quantity we measure reflects the interactions of the muon with everything else in the universe,” said Renee Fatemi, a physicist at the University of Kentucky. “This is strong evidence that the muon is sensitive to something that is not in our best theory.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/07/science/particle-physics-muon-fermilab-brookhaven.html

This is beginning to get interesting.
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Message 44686 - Posted: 9 Apr 2021, 15:55:50 UTC

This result is graded 4.2 sigma. It needs to be 5 sigma to be accepted as real.
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Message 44687 - Posted: 9 Apr 2021, 17:14:31 UTC - in response to Message 44686.  

This result is graded 4.2 sigma. It needs to be 5 sigma to be accepted as real.

Suit yourself. But how "real" do you want? How about 6 sigma? It is just a convention.
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Message 44703 - Posted: 11 Apr 2021, 13:46:09 UTC

"Nature" says that "If the discrepancy turns out to be real then the Standard Modell will have to be updated to include new particles". I stand with "Nature".
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Message 44704 - Posted: 11 Apr 2021, 14:17:46 UTC - in response to Message 44703.  

Why bother with LHC at all? Their main goal is to update the SM.
You can save the electricity by shutting it down.
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Message 44705 - Posted: 11 Apr 2021, 15:27:01 UTC - in response to Message 44704.  

I am a physicist. I have a degree in Theoretical Phyics obtained in Trieste in 1967. The main results of my thesis were published in the September 1967 issue of "IL Nuovo Cimento", The artticle is published under the name of Giordano Bisiacchi, my thesis advisor, and mine. Unfortunately Giordano died in a car accident in 1972 and that put an end to my career. The article has the title "SU(n,1) representation of the harmonic oscillator".
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Message 44706 - Posted: 11 Apr 2021, 15:56:38 UTC - in response to Message 44705.  
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Glad to hear it. I hope you put your knowledge in the service of LHC.
Eliminating the possibility of new results probably won't do it.
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Message 44707 - Posted: 11 Apr 2021, 16:51:39 UTC - in response to Message 44706.  

I am following what happens also in the CERN Courier. But one must not accept any theory without experimental confirmation.It took 50 years to confirm the existence of the Higgs boson.It tooks a hundred years to confirm the existence of gravitational waves.Some patience is needed.
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Message 44708 - Posted: 11 Apr 2021, 18:02:30 UTC - in response to Message 44707.  

I am following what happens also in the CERN Courier. But one must not accept any theory without experimental confirmation.

I am adding another machine to help LHC investigate the implications. I trust they will know what to do with it.
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Message 44710 - Posted: 12 Apr 2021, 4:58:07 UTC
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) am dedicating most of my computing power to researches on Covid-19 by World Communiy Grid and Rosetta@home.but I still have a Linux Virtual Machine on a Windows 10 host running LHC@home on a SuSE Ttumbleweeed OS with kernel 5.11.11. It is now crunching SixTrack and CMS@home.
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Message 44723 - Posted: 12 Apr 2021, 15:41:47 UTC - in response to Message 44710.  
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) am dedicating most of my computing power to researches on Covid-19 by World Communiy Grid and Rosetta@home.

I am too, with two Ryzen 3950X's split between SiDock and Rosetta, not to mention WCG/OPNG on a couple of GPUs when they have any work.
And several GTX 1070's on Folding, which is doing COVID work also.

But they really have more candidate molecules than they can test now. It will take them a while to sort it all out.

They are making good progress on Folding for example.
https://covid.postera.ai/covid

However, the toxicology testing is a big hangup. They need improved techniques for that.
https://covid.postera.ai/covid/activity_data
And then they finally need human tests. It takes longer than you would hope.
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Message 44726 - Posted: 13 Apr 2021, 6:03:53 UTC
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Dr. Mauro Giacca, former director of the International Center of Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology in Triesta Research Area, and now at King's College in UK, is testing a drug called Niclosamide, used to combat intestinal pests, on 120 patients in India, where ICGEB has also a Component and another in South Africa. ICGEB is sponsored by the UN.There is an article on this in "Nature" but I don't have a subscription.
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