Credits.. RAC... beat the system?

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sysfried Send message Joined: 27 Sep 04 Posts: 282 Credit: 1,415,417 RAC: 0	Message 2613 - Posted: 28 Sep 2004, 20:48:55 UTC Hi. Everyone wonders how to get the fastest machine or the most credits. I wonder whether anyone knows a way to beat the credit system. How can you raise your RAC beyond any level? I have an idea, but that has yet to be veryfied...... I'm not posting my idea and would like to encourage anyone willing to discuss this with me via mail. Maybe we'll find a way to prevent such things from happening... Sincerely, t_wolf ID: 2613 · Reply Quote

LP Send message Joined: 1 Sep 04 Posts: 39 Credit: 54,460 RAC: 0	Message 2614 - Posted: 28 Sep 2004, 20:55:06 UTC Well, I really hope you'll share that bit of info with LHC staff, so they can prevent cheating. ID: 2614 · Reply Quote

Janus Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 10 Credit: 3,788 RAC: 0	Message 2675 - Posted: 29 Sep 2004, 4:56:24 UTC - in response to Message 2614. > Well, I really hope you'll share that bit of info with LHC staff, so they can > prevent cheating. Or even better: share it with the BOINC devs so that it can be prevented on all projects... ID: 2675 · Reply Quote

rsbriggs Send message Joined: 1 Sep 04 Posts: 14 Credit: 168,153 RAC: 0	Message 2677 - Posted: 29 Sep 2004, 5:22:21 UTC Last modified: 29 Sep 2004, 5:22:40 UTC sysfried If you are concerned about cheating then don't participate in the project. People are here to crunch WU's and enjoy some friendly competition. The bad old days of Seti are behind us and there is no need for self proclaimed policemen. ID: 2677 · Reply Quote

Michael Berger Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 126 Credit: 49,653 RAC: 0	Message 2681 - Posted: 29 Sep 2004, 6:15:15 UTC - in response to Message 2613. Last modified: 21 Nov 2004, 12:28:03 UTC ID: 2681 · Reply Quote

sysfried Send message Joined: 27 Sep 04 Posts: 282 Credit: 1,415,417 RAC: 0	Message 2689 - Posted: 29 Sep 2004, 8:18:48 UTC - in response to Message 2677. > sysfried > > If you are concerned about cheating then don't participate in the project. > People are here to crunch WU's and enjoy some friendly competition. > > The bad old days of Seti are behind us and there is no need for self > proclaimed policemen. > > Hi. First thing: I don't cheat... and i don't like cheaters. I was talking about a way to beat the credit system. I've been the administrator in several online communities with credit systems and I know that there always will be someone to try everything possible and impossible to get to position #1. Anyone from boinc or LHC can contact me at thwo (you know what sign should be here) web dot de and I'm willing to share my idea. It's rather simple but I haven't tried it yet. so long, sysfried (t_wolf) ID: 2689 · Reply Quote

ror Send message Joined: 27 Sep 04 Posts: 2 Credit: 791 RAC: 0	Message 2774 - Posted: 29 Sep 2004, 20:00:15 UTC easiest way would be to somehow fudge your benchmark super high, but even then that would only get you a moderate (of the other 2 co-verifying results, you'd get the higher one) increase .(kinda how linux machines get slightly worse RAC because of their low benches) ID: 2774 · Reply Quote

Chrulle Send message Joined: 27 Jul 04 Posts: 182 Credit: 1,880 RAC: 0	Message 2781 - Posted: 29 Sep 2004, 20:21:32 UTC to sysfried: I encourage you to submit you idea to the boinc-dev mailing list. Where all the people working on boinc are discussing boinc issues. If you really have discovered some bug in the credit system, it will be put on the TODO list of boinc. Christian Søttrup LHC@home Developer ID: 2781 · Reply Quote

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