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Send message Joined: 12 Jul 11 Posts: 857 Credit: 1,619,050 RAC: 0 |
My fault, more news soonest. Eric. |
Send message Joined: 12 Jul 11 Posts: 857 Credit: 1,619,050 RAC: 0 |
Thanks for the feedback. I messed up. Will fix soonest. Eric. |
Send message Joined: 12 Jul 11 Posts: 857 Credit: 1,619,050 RAC: 0 |
Sadly this is NOT happening. Will fix soonest. Eric. |
Send message Joined: 9 Oct 10 Posts: 77 Credit: 3,671,357 RAC: 0 |
You should quote the post you're answering to ;) |
Send message Joined: 12 Jul 11 Posts: 857 Credit: 1,619,050 RAC: 0 |
No you are NOT on the list appended. There is a bit of a problem as I was over-enthusiastic. Eric. 10405110 10452223 10454365 10480022 10482829 10484503 10484659 10484663 10484752 10485156 10485905 10485906 10485908 10485911 10485912 10485913 10486162 |
Send message Joined: 12 Jul 11 Posts: 857 Credit: 1,619,050 RAC: 0 |
You should quote the post you're answering to ;) Thanks I am not too good at the MBs. Sorry will do so in future. Eric. |
Send message Joined: 12 Jul 11 Posts: 857 Credit: 1,619,050 RAC: 0 |
Sadly my fix has created too many inconclusive results. I have doubts that there are special hosts or special OSs causing the high rate of inconclusive results. |
Send message Joined: 12 Jul 11 Posts: 857 Credit: 1,619,050 RAC: 0 |
Rien a faire.Ma faute. bonjour, j'ai ce soucis apparemment. |
Send message Joined: 12 Jul 11 Posts: 857 Credit: 1,619,050 RAC: 0 |
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Send message Joined: 11 Feb 13 Posts: 22 Credit: 20,728,480 RAC: 46 |
oops |
Send message Joined: 11 Feb 13 Posts: 22 Credit: 20,728,480 RAC: 46 |
HIGHLY IMPORTANT Hi Eric, Appreciate all your efforts in trying to solve this. I'm a bit of a layman sorry when it comes to the technical talk regarding all this...should I stop crunching sixtrack work? I have 175 invalid WU's. Will I eventually get the credit or am I wasting time, power etc when I could crunch another project until resolved? I only crunch 6track btw. No VB. Kind regards Andrew |
Send message Joined: 22 Mar 17 Posts: 30 Credit: 360,676 RAC: 0 |
Appreciate all your efforts in trying to solve this. I'm a bit of a layman sorry when it comes to the technical talk regarding all this...should I stop crunching sixtrack work? You don't have any invalids tasks, only valid ones and those that are currently inconclusive. Admins can easily trigger revalidation of all tasks as soon as they have the old validator in place. I am sure you will get credits but a bit patience is needed for the moment. |
Send message Joined: 27 Sep 08 Posts: 844 Credit: 690,973,258 RAC: 114,797 |
I concour, my invalid rate has jumped from 8.8% to 51.3%. Before I was paired with a few rouge host now it would seem random. |
Send message Joined: 18 Sep 04 Posts: 13 Credit: 166,755 RAC: 0 |
Maybe you just need to boot the servers... what size shoe do you wear? :) (Hey, it worked for Chief O'Brien on DS9... maybe the Cardissans were running Windows...) |
Send message Joined: 2 May 07 Posts: 2240 Credit: 173,894,884 RAC: 2,800 |
Computer 10388131 shown also a lot of unresolved tasks. Is it possible to find those Computer with the duration-time of the tasks in the detail list of the Computer, when this is lower than maybe 0.1 day? |
Send message Joined: 11 Feb 13 Posts: 22 Credit: 20,728,480 RAC: 46 |
Appreciate all your efforts in trying to solve this. I'm a bit of a layman sorry when it comes to the technical talk regarding all this...should I stop crunching sixtrack work? Hi Juha, Thanks for the clarification. I think you misunderstood me though. I have plenty of patience but the WU's on my old Q9550 are taking around 12 hrs to complete. That would have been a lot of wasted time if it was all for nought. I crunch more than just LHC ;) |
Send message Joined: 15 Jul 05 Posts: 248 Credit: 5,974,599 RAC: 0 |
We have updated the tasks that were got the validation set to "inconclusive" in the database and set them to be validated again. It will take some time for the validator to chew through the backlog, so please be patient with this. The bottom line is that we do not want you to loose any credit, as we really appreciate your efforts crunching for LHC@home. Thanks again for your contributions! |
Send message Joined: 24 Sep 08 Posts: 4 Credit: 397,080 RAC: 0 |
<< EDIT >> Original post written while your message about revalidation inconclusives. Looking forward to seeing how that will end. In the meantime, here is my original information... << END EDIT >> ===== My current list show 5 valid results, 12 inconclusive and 9 in process, a single pending validation, no invalid or errors. These numbers only cover those that are not purged from the database, so relative comparison over my whole LHC career is not possible. I hope this information can be useful in narrowing down some of the problems. The few times I have checked my result list under the current system, I have also not observed any invalid or errored tasks. Neither did I have errored or invalid tasks under the old system when LHC was split in two separate projects. If the current system could keep a running total of all tasks for each host (and keep those numbers after work units and tasks get deleted from database), we would have probably a much better basis for seeing which hosts have problems with their results? Now, back to my current list of inconclusive and pending results... Host ID; 10236061 (Intel Core2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16GHz, not overclocked) 4 GB RAM (2x Corsair CM2X2048-6400C4PRO, not overclocked) Motherboard: ASUSTeK Maximus Formula II Windows 10 Pro x64, version 1607 (build 14393.1358) Common to all listed below is that all results from the other participants were short runs, also ending with inconclusive result. All work units have also listed a third task that is ready to send. Given the inconclusive status of all tasks in those work units, I doubt the third one will succeed, but there's always hope.. :-) I hope this situation with inconclusive and bad results will come to and end. Nothing hurts a project more than hundreds or thousands of bad or potentially bad results that need to be manually checked... I wish all the best of luck finding a solution to this! ----- My inconclusive results with short run times: WU 71637755, task 148057184 WU 71637757, task 148057188 WU 71637758, task 148057190 WU 70954146, task 146755417 WU 70746028, task 146334441 WU 70605235, task 146049158 WU 70605236, task 146049159 My inconclusive results with long run times: WU 70894751, task 146635362 WU 70894759, task 146635378 WU 70746026, task 146334437 WU 70541544, task 145918243 WU 70502221, task 145842412 Pending validation: WU 70928940, task 146704351 In this case, my partner's task timed out with no response. |
Send message Joined: 7 May 17 Posts: 10 Credit: 6,952,848 RAC: 0 |
Common to all listed below is that all results from the other participants were short runs, My >4500 inconclusives were across the board with runtimes. I suspect the fact that yours (or your wingmen's) were all short was probably mere coincidence, and a likely coincidence anyway because the SixTrack project generates so many of those. :-( |
Send message Joined: 21 May 14 Posts: 3 Credit: 2,762,738 RAC: 0 |
I have many inconclusive results on this host: https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/results.php?hostid=10478836 |
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