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Erich56 Send message Joined: 18 Dec 15 Posts: 1862 Credit: 130,966,271 RAC: 103,654	Message 34253 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 12:52:33 UTC - in response to Message 34249. The bad news is: The WMAgent is having problems. OMG - nothing new, though :-( I think it's really necessary to have a real specialist finetune the WMAgent, as already discussed some time ago. ID: 34253 · Reply Quote

ivan Volunteer moderator Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 1082 Credit: 8,751,930 RAC: 9,084	Message 34254 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 14:05:21 UTC - in response to Message 34253. We hope to have some major changes implemented soon, to allow better monitoring and tuning. ID: 34254 · Reply Quote

Erich56 Send message Joined: 18 Dec 15 Posts: 1862 Credit: 130,966,271 RAC: 103,654	Message 34255 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 14:15:36 UTC I was away for about 1 hours, when I returned just now, I realized that all CMS tasks are failing now :-( So the WMAgent is not functioning, as predicted by you anyway :-( ID: 34255 · Reply Quote

ivan Volunteer moderator Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 1082 Credit: 8,751,930 RAC: 9,084	Message 34256 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 16:16:48 UTC - in response to Message 34255. I was away for about 1 hours, when I returned just now, I realized that all CMS tasks are failing now :-( So the WMAgent is not functioning, as predicted by you anyway :-( Yes, no response yet from the WMAgent shepherds, I'm afraid. ID: 34256 · Reply Quote

ivan Volunteer moderator Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 1082 Credit: 8,751,930 RAC: 9,084	Message 34257 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 17:27:26 UTC - in response to Message 34256. America to the rescue! Our Fermilab contact unclogged the pipes. ID: 34257 · Reply Quote

Erich56 Send message Joined: 18 Dec 15 Posts: 1862 Credit: 130,966,271 RAC: 103,654	Message 34258 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 17:46:28 UTC - in response to Message 34256. Last modified: 3 Feb 2018, 17:47:38 UTC Yes, no response yet from the WMAgent shepherds, I'm afraid. so, at this point LHC runs dry, so to say: the 3 sub-projects which have enough "unsent" tasks (CMS, LHCb, Theory), won't work because of the defective WMAgent. ATLAS and Sixtrack, not needing the WMAgent, have no new tasks available :-( Edit: just no, a LHCb task got finished. Obviously, it does NOT need the WMAgent? ID: 34258 · Reply Quote

ivan Volunteer moderator Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 1082 Credit: 8,751,930 RAC: 9,084	Message 34259 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 17:58:29 UTC - in response to Message 34258. [Edit: just no, a LHCb task got finished. Obviously, it does NOT need the WMAgent? As far as I'm aware, WMAgent is a uniquely CMS system; the other experiments have their equivalents (and we also have CRAB for user-submitted jobs, WMAgent is for "production" tasks). ...but hopefully you'll have noticed that the WMAgent is up again (a database problem again; a support ticket has been raised). ID: 34259 · Reply Quote

Erich56 Send message Joined: 18 Dec 15 Posts: 1862 Credit: 130,966,271 RAC: 103,654	Message 34260 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 19:11:42 UTC - in response to Message 34259. ...but hopefully you'll have noticed that the WMAgent is up again (a database problem again; a support ticket has been raised). Thanks, Ivan, for letting me know. I've downloaded a CMS task on one of my PCs, and it works fine :-) ID: 34260 · Reply Quote

ivan Volunteer moderator Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 1082 Credit: 8,751,930 RAC: 9,084	Message 34306 - Posted: 7 Feb 2018, 18:07:05 UTC Well, I've just started to get CMS tasks again, and jobs are being served out, so maybe we're past this hiatus. ID: 34306 · Reply Quote

Erich56 Send message Joined: 18 Dec 15 Posts: 1862 Credit: 130,966,271 RAC: 103,654	Message 34531 - Posted: 4 Mar 2018, 7:09:49 UTC good morning, Ivan - there have been no new tasks available for a while :-( ID: 34531 · Reply Quote

ivan Volunteer moderator Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 1082 Credit: 8,751,930 RAC: 9,084	Message 34536 - Posted: 4 Mar 2018, 13:36:08 UTC - in response to Message 34531. Last modified: 4 Mar 2018, 13:40:13 UTC good morning, Ivan - there have been no new tasks available for a while :-( Sorry, I slept in... Yes I see that, e-mails will be sent. (PS: It's not WMAgent this time!) ID: 34536 · Reply Quote

ivan Volunteer moderator Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 1082 Credit: 8,751,930 RAC: 9,084	Message 34539 - Posted: 4 Mar 2018, 17:12:36 UTC - in response to Message 34536. Tasks are available again. Sorry I took my eye off the ball a bit longer than usual this weekend; I was rejoicing in not being quite so frozen as we were during most of last week, and enjoying a nice warm bed. ID: 34539 · Reply Quote

Erich56 Send message Joined: 18 Dec 15 Posts: 1862 Credit: 130,966,271 RAC: 103,654	Message 35522 - Posted: 14 Jun 2018, 5:48:02 UTC there have not been any CMS tasks for quite a while :-( What's the problem? Is CMS dead? ID: 35522 · Reply Quote

maeax Send message Joined: 2 May 07 Posts: 2262 Credit: 175,581,097 RAC: 295	Message 35523 - Posted: 14 Jun 2018, 7:48:21 UTC - in response to Message 35522. There is a break for a while. Alice is since the beginning down! ID: 35523 · Reply Quote

Erich56 Send message Joined: 18 Dec 15 Posts: 1862 Credit: 130,966,271 RAC: 103,654	Message 35617 - Posted: 22 Jun 2018, 10:46:19 UTC - in response to Message 35523. There is a break for a while. anyone any rough idea when CMS will be back? ID: 35617 · Reply Quote

Erich56 Send message Joined: 18 Dec 15 Posts: 1862 Credit: 130,966,271 RAC: 103,654	Message 35666 - Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 12:00:56 UTC Interestingly enough, there were some new tasks available some 5 days ago, as well as 2 days ago. But only a few ones - see here: https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/cms_job.php It's really a pitty that CMS has more or less come to a halt :-) ID: 35666 · Reply Quote

Jim1348 Send message Joined: 15 Nov 14 Posts: 602 Credit: 24,371,321 RAC: 0	Message 35669 - Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 13:21:41 UTC - in response to Message 35666. Last modified: 28 Jun 2018, 13:30:27 UTC It's really a pitty that CMS has more or less come to a halt :-) If you look back at the earliest posts, there was skepticism by some of the CERN experts that CMS could be made to work at all. I am not sure why that is, but it may be due to the complexity of the server setup. The skeptics may have been right. ID: 35669 · Reply Quote

Toby Broom Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 27 Sep 08 Posts: 861 Credit: 711,095,738 RAC: 209,289	Message 35908 - Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 9:46:48 UTC Since there isn't any CMS work can we halt the production of empty WU's? ID: 35908 · Reply Quote

Erich56 Send message Joined: 18 Dec 15 Posts: 1862 Credit: 130,966,271 RAC: 103,654	Message 35919 - Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 14:01:43 UTC - in response to Message 35908. Since there isn't any CMS work can we halt the production of empty WU's? good point! I have kept wondering why there are "unsent" tasks shown on the Project Status Page all the time, but if they are downloaded, they fail by lack of jobs. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense :-( ID: 35919 · Reply Quote

Erich56 Send message Joined: 18 Dec 15 Posts: 1862 Credit: 130,966,271 RAC: 103,654	Message 35929 - Posted: 16 Jul 2018, 5:26:14 UTC - in response to Message 35919. oh, someone from the CERN people probably read in here - there are no longer any "unsent" tasks shown on the Project Status Page. ID: 35929 · Reply Quote

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