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Message 28995 - Posted: 1 Mar 2017, 8:30:56 UTC

The credit migration from vLHC@home has started.
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Message 28997 - Posted: 1 Mar 2017, 15:40:35 UTC - in response to Message 28995.  

The vLHC credit migration has completed. Please let us know if there are any inconsistencies/issues.
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Message 28998 - Posted: 1 Mar 2017, 16:12:35 UTC

So far so good :) Thank you!
Now, i'm waiting for credits from ATLAS@home.
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Message 29000 - Posted: 1 Mar 2017, 18:43:31 UTC - in response to Message 28997.  

The vLHC credit migration has completed. Please let us know if there are any inconsistencies/issues.

Something weird in the Top participants by application.
A lot of users have zero credits for the SixTrack application, although they have done sixtrack tasks in the past even before LHC used VM's for their applications.

E.g. sorted by Therory average -> https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/per_app_list.php?appid=13&is_team=&is_total=0

Example user: MAGIC Quantum Mechanic has for the 3 VM-applications a total of 10,873,399 credits,
but on his user page, he has since 24 Oct 2004 11,923,230 -> https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/show_user.php?userid=5472
A difference of over 1M. Probably his SixTrack credits.

The same is happening with a lot of other volunteers.
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Message 29002 - Posted: 1 Mar 2017, 19:49:57 UTC - in response to Message 29000.  

Actually there is an inconsistency. It comes from vLHC project for me.

On vLHC project
-top partecipants: rank #526, 394k credits
-top partecipants by application: rank #917, 122k credits

Why is there this difference here?


This difference is common for many users!
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Message 29003 - Posted: 1 Mar 2017, 19:58:00 UTC - in response to Message 29002.  

Why is there this difference here?

This difference is common for many users!

Probably cause the credits per application is introduced years after the project started.
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Message 29004 - Posted: 1 Mar 2017, 22:39:20 UTC - in response to Message 29000.  

YES CP for some reason a bit over 1 million of my credits should be from SixTrack but the stats page has said 0 for quite a while and I mentioned that a month or two ago here.

No idea why that happened and as you can see I have been a member here since the beginning back in 2004

So on the complete stats it does add my SixTrack and vLHC/T4T stats.

As you know I have been with all the Cern projects since they started.
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Message 29005 - Posted: 1 Mar 2017, 23:59:34 UTC - in response to Message 29003.  

Probably cause the credits per application is introduced years after the project started.


I'm vLHCathome member since 6 September 2014 though. Not many years ago.

Anyway, should not old credits be added to Theory application?
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Message 29006 - Posted: 2 Mar 2017, 8:19:36 UTC - in response to Message 29004.  

Good News! I have found your 1 million credits! They are there in the database but the app id is 0 but the app id for sixtrack is 1. We need to investigate this further before it can be resolved but at least your credits are safe.
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Message 29012 - Posted: 2 Mar 2017, 12:13:33 UTC - in response to Message 29006.  

The appid has been changed in the database to be the correct one for the Sixtrack application. Unfortunately that extra data has broken the per_app view as pagination is not working. We are following up on this.
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Message 29014 - Posted: 2 Mar 2017, 12:34:22 UTC - in response to Message 28997.  

Is it possible to change our date of joining to reflect we started vLHC several years ago?

It will look rather strange to new LHC joiners seeing all those people with over 1 billion MPLOTS in 1 month!

I'm totally happy with my score transfer from vLHC.
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Message 29018 - Posted: 2 Mar 2017, 18:24:49 UTC
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I joined LHC@home in February 2008 and Test4Theory@home in November 2010. Now only SixTrack is running on my 3 PCs, the other programs all fail, I don't know why. Atlas@home runs outside of LHC@home both in multicore and singlecore version on my Windows 10 PC with plenty of RAM and disk space.
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Message 29021 - Posted: 2 Mar 2017, 20:39:24 UTC
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After this credit migration I got a new project (parasite project in reality) in my project list. The name of parasite-project is vLHCathome, of course, the credits are identical to LHC@home credits.
Something needs to be fixed on servers - I (and absolute majority of all users, IMHO) refuse such "gift".
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Message 29023 - Posted: 2 Mar 2017, 23:07:51 UTC

Hi,

Thanks for this wonderful job of merging projects. That's a very good idea and an impressive work.

From my side credits seems correct. I had a warning in boinc manager telling me that two projects were having the same name and that I needed to remove one. It was possible to remove it through BAM (Boinc Account Manager).

An idea: it would be great if credits could be differenciated upon sub-projects and if we could have badges.

Cheers
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Message 29024 - Posted: 3 Mar 2017, 1:29:04 UTC
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Well after a closer look at my account I found a couple problems.

This computer is listed twice here in my account (now it is listed 3 times with different numbers)

I tried the usual *Merge* and I get this
Processing HAL_5771_x
Can't merge host 9875004 into 10445616 - they're incompatible
Can't merge host 10447575 into 10445616 - they're incompatible


Makes no sense because I don't have 9 computers and these two have the same name.
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/show_host_detail.php?hostid=10445616
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/show_host_detail.php?hostid=10447575
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/show_host_detail.php?hostid=9875004

It NOW is listed with 2 different ID's AND they both say it has NO tasks running........well it does and always has and is the famous #1 computer that ran all 6 years at T4T/vLHC and has been running here even longer than that.

AND on another pc where I run VB tasks and did over at vLHC all 6 years now has LHC twice on its Boinc Manager Projects list.
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/show_host_detail.php?hostid=10408099

The other 5 computers I have here seem to be running as they should.

All 7 have run the old SixTrack tasks here back before we started VB over on vLHC (well maybe just 6 of them)
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Message 29025 - Posted: 3 Mar 2017, 1:31:46 UTC
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So VLHC@home is gone but there are still two LHC@HOME projects on my computer:

LHC@HOME 1.0 http://lhcathomeclassic.cern.ch/sixtrack/

http://lhcathomeclassic.cern.ch/sixtrack/show_host_detail.php?hostid=10418353

AND

LHC@HOME https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/

https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/show_host_detail.php?hostid=10418353

I have both attached to a PC.

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Message 29026 - Posted: 3 Mar 2017, 1:46:54 UTC - in response to Message 29025.  
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So VLHC@home is gone but there are still two LHC@HOME projects on my computer:

LHC@HOME 1.0 http://lhcathomeclassic.cern.ch/sixtrack/

http://lhcathomeclassic.cern.ch/sixtrack/show_host_detail.php?hostid=10418353

AND

LHC@HOME https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/

https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/show_host_detail.php?hostid=10418353

I have both attached to a PC.

Cheers


Dingo you need to remove LHC from your Boinc Manager Projects and then reinstall using this URL
https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/ one you have is right but you either have to delete the old one or both and reinstall with the current URL
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Message 29032 - Posted: 3 Mar 2017, 7:56:41 UTC - in response to Message 29023.  
Last modified: 3 Mar 2017, 8:09:13 UTC

Hi,
Thanks for this wonderful job of merging projects. That's a very good idea and an impressive work.

Just say the truth, are You trolling here?
Everyone (thousands of BOINC volunteers worldwide), who at least touched LHC@home, have now disturbed and damaged statistic...
This is not wonderful job, this is true pornography!
Sorry for brutal tone (I hope, nobody will be insulted personally)...
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Message 29034 - Posted: 3 Mar 2017, 9:50:45 UTC - in response to Message 29021.  

The parasite-project is not related to the credit migration but the HTTP redirects from vLHC@home to LHC@home. External sites such as boincstats.com need now to be updated.
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Message 29035 - Posted: 3 Mar 2017, 10:00:46 UTC - in response to Message 29024.  

The host migration was a little more tricky and may require some manual intervention. The hosts from vLHC@home were added rather than merged. You should be able to manually merge but where there are issues I can help.
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