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Message 26018 - Posted: 24 Oct 2013, 8:51:16 UTC - in response to Message 26015.  
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I assume there is no full-time webmaster, only programmers that sometimes read the fora, and only one of them has permissions to access the server. CERN is a huge organization and LHC@Home seems to be a side-project, maintained by researchers and programmers in their spare time. Anyway I'm happy to collaborate with this wonderfull project. And thanks for the fix :)
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Message 26019 - Posted: 24 Oct 2013, 8:58:16 UTC - in response to Message 26018.  

I assume there is no full-time webmaster, only programmers that sometimes read the fora, and only one of them has permissions to access the server. CERN is a huge organization and LHC@Home seems to be a side-project, maintained by researchers and programmers in their spare time. Anyway I'm happy to collaborate with this wonderfull project. And thanks for the fix :)

There's a big (and often under-recognised) difference between scientific programming on the one hand, and server administration on the other. It's right that the necessary skills are divided up and allocated to different specialists. And a BOINC server hosts many more complexities than a simple website.
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Message 26020 - Posted: 24 Oct 2013, 9:20:31 UTC

Somebody asked how people felt about upload problems.

Frankly I didn't see a problem. No uploads? Ok, what gives?

BOINC is designed to cope, they will eventually upload. They will also get credit (credit? what's that? an arbritrary score, not more). If they pass deadline, well the newly issued tasks don't upload either, so everybody gets credit (or the superflous units cancelled).
And if you have too many upload waiting, you stop requesting anyway, so after some time it all grinds to a halt anyway until the problems are sorted.
Certainly no reason to panic or get upset.
A reason to check the boards, whether the problem has been spotted and reported (usually yes) and whether there's anything you can do to help (e.g. extra logging) and after that, sit back, relax and if desperate to keep the rig warm, look around for another project.

So, no problem, just a very minor inconvenience. Since work here is in batches anyway, it's just like the batch had run out, workwise.
Certainly no biggie.

And it's not like it wouldn't happen to other projects either. All projects I've been running over the years got into problems now and again. Sooner or later it always gets sorted. Sometimes later than you'd like, but even the best staffed and founded projects sometimes scratch their heads over a problem. If the project is small, and the main scientist doesn't do the sysadmin himself but needs to get hold of the sysadmin first if there's any problems...

So, sit back and relax. If a project having a hiccup makes you anxious or aggressive, you have Issues.

@henry As others have pointed out your post was uncalled for and the language inappropriate. If that had turned up on the project I moderate [under quite a different name, but quite well known ;)], you'd have found your post hidden and quite likely yourself banned too.

First post :D - always special. But at least I'm not commenting on the temperatures in Yorkshire and proceeding to become one of the big names in 3rd party development. Here I'm just obscure little Eyrie, Queen of Aliasses. Somebody mentioned coffee?
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Message 26021 - Posted: 24 Oct 2013, 9:27:11 UTC
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All my uploads done. I am running 7 BOINC projects. On a different project, I got a 64-bit app while my Linux is 32-bit and all units fail. I wrote once to the sysadmin and chief scientist signaling the fact but I am still receiving units which fail. I wrote him again calling him Herr Professor. I hope he understands.
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Message 26022 - Posted: 24 Oct 2013, 9:31:56 UTC - in response to Message 26020.  
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I totally agree with Eyrie.
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Message 26024 - Posted: 24 Oct 2013, 10:30:49 UTC - in response to Message 26020.  

@henry As others have pointed out your post was uncalled for and the language inappropriate.


The "who gives a damn, it's their CPU time that gets wasted not ours" attitude that has characterized this project from day 1 is also uncalled for and inappropriate. What this project does affects not only this project, it affects other projects too. Anybody who can't see that has Issues.

If that had turned up on the project I moderate [under quite a different name, but quite well known ;)], you'd have found your post hidden and quite likely yourself banned too.


Probably you have already banned one of my sockpuppets at some time in the past. Do I look like I care? No. Has it stopped me from posting there? No. Now go flex your muscles somewhere else, doofus.

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Message 26025 - Posted: 24 Oct 2013, 11:12:36 UTC

Don't shoot the pianist, he does what he can. This Western motto applies to most BOINC projects, staffed by volunteers on their free time and under financed. I never complain if I have problems, I know they will be solved in due time.
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