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Euphoriabuzz

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Message 22301 - Posted: 8 May 2010, 20:11:40 UTC

Hi I have two completed wu\'s from feb and am still awaiting credit.

Here is one of them \'18254440\', any ideas anyone?
ID: 22301 ·
Dr. Ronald C. Spencer

Joined: 13 Feb 06
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Credit: 129,292
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Message 22321 - Posted: 17 May 2010, 13:17:15 UTC

I don't know what the problem is. You should have received credit by now. Even I have over 300 points of credit pending.It seems other projects are behind giving people credit for work done as well on occasion. As a professional astronomer, I apologize. I don't know what the reason is. I know several have left this project because of very low work assignments and inability to grant credit properly but I would advise sticking with this project as they really need the help and the bottom line is this, I think the staff are good folk and they try their best.
I hope all receive their credit soon. Good Luck :)

Dr. Ronald C. Spencer
ID: 22321 ·
Colin Porter

Joined: 14 Jul 05
Posts: 35
Credit: 71,636
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Message 22322 - Posted: 17 May 2010, 14:42:20 UTC

I'm afraid the reason you have not had credit is that this project has an inability to award credit of very low value.
Numerous others are in the same boat. There are countless other threads on this subject. You will just have to live with it.

This also means that you cannot clean up/delete any computers that have pending credit. here is my list of pending units - and it's probably a small one compared to many others. The bottom 3 will prob get credit but most of the rest are years old.

Result ID Workunit ID Host ID Claimed credit
8642591 1672149 9659112 0.00
8701254 1683656 129804 0.00
8701324 1683670 129804 0.00
8701492 1683703 129804 0.00
8808969 1704649 9659112 0.00
10203494 1981370 9659112 0.00
10385970 2017622 9659112 0.00
10142256 1969208 9659112 0.00
10203481 1981367 9659112 0.00
10016867 1944330 9659112 0.00
10016896 1944336 9650679 0.00
10385978 2017623 9659112 0.00
9771579 1837442 9659112 0.00
10392799 2018982 129804 0.00
10324888 2005497 9659112 0.00
10387534 2017932 129804 0.00
9081889 1758854 129804 0.00
10221322 1984919 9650679 0.00
10357807 2012015 129804 0.00
10388335 2018092 9659112 0.00
10684148 2076852 9659269 0.00
10354047 2011263 9650679 0.00
10404167 2021249 9659112 0.00
12094401 2356316 129804 0.00
10404178 2021250 9659112 0.00
10369849 2014406 129804 0.00
10894450 2118613 9659112 0.00
10106249 1962062 9659112 0.00
9656488 1872987 9659112 0.00
10373558 2015148 9650679 0.00
9656361 1872962 129804 0.00
9754617 1892483 9659112 0.00
10392021 2018827 9659112 0.00
9346467 1811497 9627984 0.00
9719359 1885458 9627984 0.00
10016849 1944327 9659112 0.00
10313275 2003181 9659112 0.00
9771578 1837441 9659112 0.00
10353018 2011058 129804 0.00
10369426 2014322 9650679 0.00
10313250 2003176 9659112 0.00
10369416 2014320 9650679 0.00
10029907 1946933 9650679 0.00
10381027 2016637 9659112 0.00
9353631 1812926 9659112 0.00
9353633 1812927 9659112 0.00
9755914 1892742 129804 0.00
10142320 1969220 9659112 0.00
9476494 1837205 129804 0.00
13461411 2625933 9659112 0.00
9378945 1817970 9659112 0.00
9378946 1817971 9659112 0.00
9382364 1818650 9659112 0.00
9384712 1819119 9659112 0.00
10381020 2016636 9659112 0.00
10407038 2021820 129804 0.00
10376534 2015740 9659112 0.00
10419520 2019680 9650679 0.00
10388183 2018061 9659112 0.00
13633980 2659854 9659112 0.00
10680957 2076218 9659269 0.00
10824013 2104636 129804 0.01
10824945 2104823 9659112 0.00
10557095 2051602 9650679 0.00
10825444 2104923 129804 0.01
10824464 2104727 9659112 0.00
13296268 2593288 9659112 0.01
12108259 2359072 129804 0.00
13568531 2647143 9659112 0.00
12599752 2456100 9659112 0.00
12084878 2354422 9659112 0.00
13129306 2560407 9659112 0.00
13133651 2561273 9659269 0.00
13126130 2559773 129804 0.01
12617474 2459549 9659112 0.00
11370851 2212826 9659112 0.00
12100591 2357544 129804 0.00
12003702 2338416 9659112 0.00
12599741 2456097 9659112 0.00
13665441 2665902 9659269 0.00
11396372 2217901 9659112 0.00
11396404 2217907 9668405 0.00
11399252 2218475 9659112 0.00
11399276 2218480 9659112 0.00
12534827 2443337 9659112 0.00
12598059 2455761 9659112 0.00
12530352 2442452 9659112 0.00
13088883 2552346 9659269 0.00
12530344 2442450 9659112 0.00
12628055 2461659 9659112 0.00
12837583 2503055 9659112 0.00
12837386 2503015 9659112 0.00
12838507 2503239 9659112 0.00
13657206 2664280 9659112 0.01
13653515 2663542 9659112 0.00
12534838 2443339 9659112 0.00
12607061 2457556 9659112 0.00
12606421 2457428 9659112 0.00
13340163 2602007 9659112 0.00
13709777 2674651 9659269 0.00
13083476 2551267 9659269 0.00
12598037 2455757 9659112 0.00
12627667 2461583 9659112 0.00
13457501 2625152 9659112 0.00
13126256 2559798 9659269 0.01
12627862 2461622 9659112 0.00
13665275 2665869 9659112 0.00
13358690 2605713 9659269 0.01
12839323 2503400 9659269 0.00
18610544 3833427 9796073 349.80
18610651 3833480 9659112 125.71
18614673 3835142 9659112 316.99

It's not the speed, but the quality - Until I get a faster computer.
ID: 22322 ·
haruna

Joined: 28 Jul 05
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Message 22327 - Posted: 18 May 2010, 3:19:21 UTC - in response to Message 22322.

Haha, I\\\'m happy to hear there\\\'s someone still aboarding this ghost ship...

Anyway, here\\\'s mine :)

Result ID Workunit ID Host ID Claimed credit
5156727 999044 6634912 0.00
5215028 1010706 6634912 0.00
5215031 1010707 6634912 0.00
3508960 678113 6634912 26.84
5851846 1133295 6634912 0.00
4615900 892880 3035124 88.57
5898926 1142680 3035124 81.17
5906961 1144288 3035124 1.54
2941990 568431 6634912 7.82
6426817 1245675 9855412 114.13
4623748 894441 6634912 0.00
5664697 1097182 6634912 0.02
5608373 1085954 6634912 0.00
5661651 1096572 6634912 0.00
5602238 1084730 6634912 0.00
5642898 1092835 6634912 0.00
5614282 1087132 6634912 0.00
5753367 1114809 6634912 0.00
5612343 1086748 6634912 0.00
5766324 1117321 6634912 0.00
5663349 1096911 6634912 0.00
3031281 586019 6634912 26.78
4621822 894056 6634912 14.22
3735531 721730 6634912 30.95
2498494 484121 6634912 0.94
3453156 667110 6634912 27.06
3569552 690115 6634912 27.35
6143069 1190761 6634912 0.02
6171384 1196341 6634912 0.00
6216660 1205335 6634912 12.93
6193956 1200842 6634912 0.00
6173172 1196701 6634912 0.00
6173188 1196698 6634912 0.00
4837623 935737 6634912 0.00
4834411 935098 6634912 0.00
4830790 934375 6634912 0.00
4830791 934373 6634912 0.00
4830796 934372 6634912 0.00
4830594 934330 6634912 0.00
4836653 935546 6634912 0.01
4836660 935548 6634912 0.01
4836299 935471 6634912 0.00
4831674 934554 6634912 0.00
4830901 934397 6634912 0.00
4838498 935911 6634912 0.01
4833963 935012 6634912 0.00
4839404 936094 6634912 0.00
4838039 935818 6634912 0.00
4839298 936075 6634912 0.00
6727556 1304455 81789 67.16
4837216 935659 6634912 0.00
4830161 934248 6634912 0.00
3861481 746372 3035124 40.48
6320492 1224679 6634912 0.00
6321143 1224805 6634912 0.00
6319005 1224381 6634912 0.00
6319421 1224465 6634912 0.00
6322043 1224991 6634912 0.00
6319278 1224436 6634912 0.00
6320805 1224744 6634912 0.00
6320810 1224745 6634912 0.02
6320211 1224625 6634912 0.00
6320032 1224587 6634912 0.00
6320073 1224597 6634912 0.00
6096764 1181523 6634912 0.01
6103060 1182766 6634912 7.91
7450771 1442559 185865 0.00
7450772 1442550 185865 0.00
5676400 1099494 6634912 0.00
5676410 1099496 6634912 0.00
5676439 1099501 6634912 0.00
5768093 1117666 6634912 0.00
5723229 1108829 6634912 0.00
5586562 1081617 6634912 0.00
5780739 1120154 6634912 0.00
5780735 1120141 6634912 0.00
5575120 1079340 6634912 0.00
5806014 1125186 6634912 0.00
5768084 1117668 6634912 0.00
5753484 1114832 6634912 0.01
5575109 1079330 6634912 29.11
6564928 1272611 3035124 151.18
6422461 1244808 6634912 0.01
6685850 1296223 9855412 164.77
5988912 1160588 3035124 54.70
5738057 1111790 6634912 0.00
5801096 1124203 6634912 0.00
5801113 1124207 6634912 0.01
5801142 1124213 6634912 0.02
5801162 1124217 6634912 0.02
5801206 1124228 6634912 32.05
5801219 1124225 6634912 0.00
5801222 1124226 6634912 0.00
5801232 1124231 6634912 0.00
5801237 1124232 6634912 0.00
5801257 1124236 6634912 0.00
5801265 1124237 6634912 0.00
5801267 1124238 6634912 0.00
5801277 1124240 6634912 0.01
5801282 1124241 6634912 0.01
5801290 1124242 6634912 0.00
5801298 1124244 6634912 0.00
5801307 1124246 6634912 0.00
5801312 1124247 6634912 0.01
5801326 1124249 6634912 0.00
5801327 1124250 6634912 0.00
5801347 1124254 6634912 0.00
5801352 1124255 6634912 0.01
5801365 1124257 6634912 0.01
5801367 1124258 6634912 0.00
5801381 1124260 6634912 0.00
5801386 1124261 6634912 0.00
5801387 1124262 6634912 0.00
5801397 1124264 6634912 0.00
5801403 1124265 6634912 0.00
5801407 1124266 6634912 0.02
5801412 1124267 6634912 0.02
5801420 1124268 6634912 0.00
5801423 1124269 6634912 0.00
5801427 1124270 6634912 0.00
5801437 1124272 6634912 0.00
5801449 1124274 6634912 0.00
6716070 1302179 3035124 60.34
6734858 1305910 3035124 35.22
8442284 1632728 5629007 0.00
8810136 1704883 9855406 0.00
9083832 1759243 9855406 0.00
13439806 2571021 9855406 0.00
10385125 2017453 4637975 0.00
10221096 1984874 9855406 0.00
10601974 2060504 6634912 0.00
10778420 2095582 9620086 0.00
12387399 2336769 9855406 0.00
10394217 2019264 9855406 0.00
10369193 2014275 9778782 0.00
10410787 2022537 9778782 0.00
10954445 2130508 9855406 0.00
10954449 2130509 9855406 0.00
13356362 2605247 9855412 0.00
13466198 2626867 9855406 0.00
10824333 2104701 9855406 0.00
10955526 2130724 9683541 0.00
10825597 2104953 9855406 0.00
10804287 2100739 9621081 0.00
11231449 2185254 9855406 0.00
11018690 2142921 9855418 0.00
13633720 2659802 9855406 0.00
13465732 2626774 9855412 0.00
13633246 2659708 9855406 0.00
10955827 2130784 9855418 0.00
10893265 2118378 9778782 0.00
12106675 2358756 9855406 0.00
13709241 2674545 9855406 0.00
11017195 2142635 9618865 0.00
13633313 2659722 9855406 0.00
13565347 2646507 9683541 0.00
13553169 2644079 9778646 0.00
13567003 2646838 9684109 0.00
12585525 2453344 6634912 0.00
12613824 2452321 9656426 0.00
12239769 2385196 9855406 0.00
13291551 2592347 9778646 0.00
12838098 2503158 6634912 0.00
13291373 2592312 9855418 0.00
13633165 2659692 9855406 0.00
13709247 2674546 9855406 0.00
12842682 2504070 9668635 0.00
12837944 2503127 9855406 0.00
12630753 2462199 9656426 0.00
13731349 2678954 9855412 0.00
13292672 2592571 9855406 0.00

those results left for nearly 5years...
ID: 22327 ·
watnou

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Credit: 1,366,857
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Message 22328 - Posted: 18 May 2010, 9:31:44 UTC

guys

It has no sense whatsoever to post all your pending results. It is a known issue, that has a verrry low priority for ages now.

ID: 22328 ·
rembertw

Joined: 21 Apr 07
Posts: 42
Credit: 409,087
RAC: 0
Message 22329 - Posted: 18 May 2010, 11:21:07 UTC - in response to Message 22328.

There\'s about 170 wu\'s pending on my account, going back to 2007.

Indeed, you are not the only one ;)
ID: 22329 ·
pelpolaris

Joined: 9 Oct 06
Posts: 1
Credit: 3,016,450
RAC: 7
Message 22330 - Posted: 18 May 2010, 20:15:07 UTC

Have almost 600 pending credits from novembre 2008 to mai 2010. May I understand that they\'re on their way to the Dark Matter ?
With my best bosonals wishes for at they may appear somewhere again on planet Boinc before I quit for the ever last time...
ID: 22330 ·
Werkstatt

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Message 22347 - Posted: 23 May 2010, 6:04:39 UTC - in response to Message 22328.

guys

It has no sense whatsoever to post all your pending results. It is a known issue, that has a verrry low priority for ages now.

Problems are there to be solved, not discussed.
Kick the validator or do something else, it leaves a bad feeling, that our efford in crunching is not granted.
ID: 22347 ·
watnou

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Message 22348 - Posted: 24 May 2010, 11:49:28 UTC - in response to Message 22347.

guys

It has no sense whatsoever to post all your pending results. It is a known issue, that has a verrry low priority for ages now.

Problems are there to be solved, not discussed.
Kick the validator or do something else, it leaves a bad feeling, that our efford in crunching is not granted.

hmm
you really want all those 0 credits awarded
wow. you gained 0 credits
ID: 22348 ·
Werkstatt

Joined: 5 Oct 08
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Message 22453 - Posted: 8 Aug 2010, 22:12:10 UTC - in response to Message 22348.

hmm
you really want all those 0 credits awarded
wow. you gained 0 credits

I\'m not shure where you found the 0 credits, but I have a wu pending thats 409 credits worth.
Anyway, science has to do with
- care
- accuracy
- honesty
- finishing of work
aso.
I can live without these credits, but it\'s a bit strange, that one of the most impressive projects on earth is not able to do what so many other projects can do.

Alexander
ID: 22453 ·
tullio

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Message 22454 - Posted: 9 Aug 2010, 14:00:18 UTC

I have 961,68 pending credits in SETI and 74.86 in Einstein. I have no pending credits here, since my Linux box is not assigned any work to do. Other projects I am running like QMC@home and QuantumFIRE have a quorum of 1 and I have no pending credits. CPDN, with extremely long deadlines, has the trickle system and I am getting credits every three or four days.
Tullio
ID: 22454 ·
Werkstatt

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Message 22457 - Posted: 10 Aug 2010, 12:23:06 UTC

Well, pending credits while waiting for your wingman is one thing. It is normal behaviour.
you will find that two wu\'s where in the field and both returned and are marked as valid but not granted. This is the source of the critical words.
As I tried to explain, we are participating in science, not in a game. And science comes along with some attributes. It is not the amount of credit (i.e. I have 30k credits pending in Seti and 1,355.54 in Einstein, ~19k in Collatz aso), the fact is, that ~10% of the credit is not granted.
I\'m not angry, I will continue to crunch LHC, but correctness is somthing like a signboard for a project.

Alexander
ID: 22457 ·
tullio

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Message 22458 - Posted: 10 Aug 2010, 16:57:57 UTC

I cannot answer for the project\'s admins, but in SETI when the results do not agree within a fixed limit, the WU is sent to another user who acts as a referee, and maybe also to a fourth. Different CPUs, FPUs and OS often give results which differ. I remember doing the same calculation on a BULL/MIPS minicomputer and a SUN workstation and the results were often different, especially when the program looped a great deal. I don\'t know why LHC does not act as SETI does.
Tullio
ID: 22458 ·
[PST]Howard

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Message 22484 - Posted: 17 Aug 2010, 22:16:41 UTC - in response to Message 22301.

Hi I have two completed wu\\\'s from feb and am still awaiting credit.

Here is one of them \\\'18254440\\\', any ideas anyone?

I have alot from Jul 2006 waiting.

ID: 22484 ·
Werkstatt

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Message 22490 - Posted: 18 Aug 2010, 21:42:33 UTC - in response to Message 22458.

I remember doing the same calculation on a BULL/MIPS minicomputer and a SUN workstation and the results were often different, especially when the program looped a great deal.
Tullio

Hi Tullio,
very intresting!
Simplified that means, that 2*2 is not exact 4 but is expected to be within 3.99 and 4.01.
I always thought, the princip of cruching every wu twice is to filter out selfwritten apps, producing wrong results, but that much faster. That happened at Milkyway a couple of months ago.

Alexander
ID: 22490 ·
lugal

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Message 22508 - Posted: 1 Sep 2010, 8:42:32 UTC

Good day friends,

The WU below is waiting for a credit (small if an since early June
w6may10_DA-scaling-law1__1__s__64.31_59.32__46_48__6__75_1_sixvf_boinc702_0

I understand that a number of collegues are also waiting for WU\\\'s pending to be cleared.

Not getting any WU\\\'s to work on is also an annoyance.

Is there anyone out there to give a clear answer as to what the problem might be.

Regards lugal
ID: 22508 ·
Chaz

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Message 22521 - Posted: 4 Sep 2010, 22:59:36 UTC - in response to Message 22508.

Like others I have pending credits going back to 2007. Yes it is frustrating but considering that this project nearly died due to Cern\'s lack of support I am just pleased that the project is up and running again. It is known that the servers /validator etc all need sorting out but until recently there has been virtually zero resource allocated to this project and it has largely relied on the good will of people like Neasan, BigMac etc. I think we are going to have to be patient for a bit longer until they have the time and resources to debug things.
ID: 22521 ·
mfbabb2

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Message 22565 - Posted: 4 Oct 2010, 21:27:04 UTC

Just in case the Admin wants an example of a small Pending:

18840601
ID: 22565 ·
[PST]Howard

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Message 22566 - Posted: 5 Oct 2010, 5:05:29 UTC - in response to Message 22328.

guys

It has no sense whatsoever to post all your pending results. It is a known issue, that has a verrry low priority for ages now.

Been low priority since July 2005!

ID: 22566 ·
Pepino65

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Message 22645 - Posted: 17 Dec 2010, 16:24:25 UTC

Greetings guys,

I could be happy, I needed to validate these wu´s:

19332740 4143996 9 Oct 2010 20:39:37 UTC 10 Oct 2010 6:33:24 UTC Over Success Done 2,460.38 9.52 pending

13364311 2606837 28 Apr 2008 11:29:35 UTC 28 Apr 2008 11:44:51 UTC Over Success Done 1.42 0.00 pending

13095564 2553679 18 Apr 2008 4:41:51 UTC 18 Apr 2008 4:52:32 UTC Over Success Done 0.66 0.00 pending

13054457 2545645 16 Apr 2008 21:34:23 UTC 16 Apr 2008 21:52:26 UTC Over Success Done 1.14 0.00 pending

12108540 2359129 11 Mar 2008 14:31:29 UTC 11 Mar 2008 14:32:30 UTC Over Success Done 0.64 0.00 pending

12107861 2358994 11 Mar 2008 15:18:20 UTC 11 Mar 2008 18:19:56 UTC Over Success Done 0.67 0.00 pending
Thanks Pepino
11558510 2250060 28 Feb 2008 22:17:30 UTC 28 Feb 2008 22:32:40 UTC Over Success Done 0.61 0.00 pending

11551104 2248644 27 Feb 2008 20:37:40 UTC 27 Feb 2008 21:40:20 UTC Over Success Done 0.63 0.00 pending
ID: 22645 ·

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