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Message 20492 - Posted: 22 Sep 2008, 19:15:57 UTC
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At 19:04:51 UTC today Monday 22 I had a SIGSEV while running LHC@home that killed my BOINC client. I am running SuSE Linux 10.3, BOINC 5.10.45 on an AMD Opteron 1210 at 1.8 GHz, not overclocked. I am running SETI@home, Einstein@home, CPDN, CPDN beta, QMC@home and LHC@home.
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Message 20546 - Posted: 26 Sep 2008, 19:15:44 UTC

Still another case of segmentation violation running LHC@home:
26-Sep-2008 21:06:02 [lhcathome] Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
SIGSEGV: segmentation violation
Stack trace (8 frames):
./boinc[0x80938af]
[0xffffe420]
./boinc[0x80675e7]
./boinc[0x805d878]
./boinc[0x80831e2]
./boinc[0x80833d2]
/lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe0)[0xb7d49fe0]
./boinc(__gxx_personality_v0+0x165)[0x804bc21]

Exiting...
Cleaning up graphics data...
Detaching shared memory...
Cleaning up graphics data...
Detaching shared memory...Number

Times are UTC+2
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Message 20549 - Posted: 27 Sep 2008, 3:47:18 UTC

Would this be happening when the server cancels redundant work units? (Just speculating out loud)




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Message 20550 - Posted: 27 Sep 2008, 6:09:13 UTC - in response to Message 20549.  

Would this be happening when the server cancels redundant work units? (Just speculating out loud)




Yes. it happens after the client tries to connect to the server. I\'ve suspended LHC@home until I get an answer. I have 5 other projects running with tight deadlines and I cannot afford a boinc client stopping when I am not present.
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Message 20553 - Posted: 27 Sep 2008, 14:53:56 UTC
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I installed from BOINC but I am running also SETI, Einstein, QMC, CPDN, CPDN Beta and I never had any problem. On SETI I am running also an optimized application and Astropulse and never had a compute error. Only LHC@home gives me some problems.
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Message 20555 - Posted: 27 Sep 2008, 17:44:17 UTC
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The BOINC boinc is not static executable and uses the following libraries
boinc:
linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000)
libnsl.so.1 => /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0xb7f24000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7f20000)
libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7f0d000)
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0xb7e1f000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7e08000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb7de3000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7caf000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f54000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xb7ca3000)
boinc_cmd:
linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000)
libnsl.so.1 => /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0xb7ec0000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7ebc000)
libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7ea9000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7e92000)
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0xb7da4000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb7d7f000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7c4b000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xb7c3f000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7ef0000)

I\'ve searched the OpenSuse site for a BOINC installer but could not find it. Cheers.
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Message 20575 - Posted: 1 Oct 2008, 4:58:37 UTC
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I have seen this as well. I didn't really suspect LHC but now that you mention it, I think it has only happened while LHC has had work... but I won't swear to that. I've seen it on gentoo with BOINC 5.10. BOINC is installed through portage so it was compiled on the box it is running on. I even tried reinstalling (which means recompiling) in case some underlying library changed but that didn't help. But it is pretty infrequent which of course means hard to troubleshoot...
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Message 20578 - Posted: 1 Oct 2008, 9:14:52 UTC - in response to Message 20575.  
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I have seen this as well. I didn\'t really suspect LHC but now that you mention it, I think it has only happened while LHC has had work... but I won\'t swear to that. I\'ve seen it on gentoo with BOINC 5.10. BOINC is installed through portage so it was compiled on the box it is running on. I even tried reinstalling (which means recompiling) in case some underlying library changed but that didn\'t help. But it is pretty infrequent which of course means hard to troubleshoot...

It happened twice on me and always on LHC and never on the other 5 projects I am running. But I am sure it happens when the server wants to delete a redundant result.
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Message 20580 - Posted: 1 Oct 2008, 11:12:36 UTC - in response to Message 20578.  

I have seen this as well. I didn\\\'t really suspect LHC but now that you mention it, I think it has only happened while LHC has had work... but I won\\\'t swear to that. I\\\'ve seen it on gentoo with BOINC 5.10. BOINC is installed through portage so it was compiled on the box it is running on. I even tried reinstalling (which means recompiling) in case some underlying library changed but that didn\\\'t help. But it is pretty infrequent which of course means hard to troubleshoot...

It happened twice on me and always on LHC and never on the other 5 projects I am running. But I am sure it happens when the server wants to delete a redundant result.
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Looks like yesterday it happened to me as well.
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Message 20581 - Posted: 1 Oct 2008, 12:01:01 UTC - in response to Message 20578.  

I have seen this as well. I didn\'t really suspect LHC but now that you mention it, I think it has only happened while LHC has had work... but I won\'t swear to that. I\'ve seen it on gentoo with BOINC 5.10. BOINC is installed through portage so it was compiled on the box it is running on. I even tried reinstalling (which means recompiling) in case some underlying library changed but that didn\'t help. But it is pretty infrequent which of course means hard to troubleshoot...

It happened twice on me and always on LHC and never on the other 5 projects I am running. But I am sure it happens when the server wants to delete a redundant result.
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I don\'t know Linux well, but it seems to me that this could be a BOINC issue which only occurs under certain circumstances rather than a LHC@home issue.

Has this occured on any other project which cancels redundant results ?

I know that SETI Beta runs a IR=3 Q=2 policy on MultiBeam (not AstroPulse) WU\'s, so it may be worth while attaching to that project as a test, to see if this occurs on other BOINC projects.

It may also be useful to post about this on BOINC message boards, or raise a TRAC Ticket.

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Message 20582 - Posted: 1 Oct 2008, 13:19:16 UTC - in response to Message 20581.  
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I have seen this as well. I didn\\\'t really suspect LHC but now that you mention it, I think it has only happened while LHC has had work... but I won\\\'t swear to that. I\\\'ve seen it on gentoo with BOINC 5.10. BOINC is installed through portage so it was compiled on the box it is running on. I even tried reinstalling (which means recompiling) in case some underlying library changed but that didn\\\'t help. But it is pretty infrequent which of course means hard to troubleshoot...

It happened twice on me and always on LHC and never on the other 5 projects I am running. But I am sure it happens when the server wants to delete a redundant result.
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I don\\\'t know Linux well, but it seems to me that this could be a BOINC issue which only occurs under certain circumstances rather than a LHC@home issue.

Has this occured on any other project which cancels redundant results ?

I know that SETI Beta runs a IR=3 Q=2 policy on MultiBeam (not AstroPulse) WU\\\'s, so it may be worth while attaching to that project as a test, to see if this occurs on other BOINC projects.

It may also be useful to post about this on BOINC message boards, or raise a TRAC Ticket.

Keith.

It seems this happens also on other projects when the client asks for works and receives none. See this on the BOINC message boards:
BOINC client exits
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Message 20588 - Posted: 1 Oct 2008, 17:57:09 UTC - in response to Message 20587.  
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It seems this happens also on other projects when the client asks for works and receives none. See this on the BOINC message boards:
BOINC client exits
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From the trials Jean-David reports in that thread it really looks like Hydrogen@home was causing the SEGV. It seems he got the SEGV only (mostly?) when he requested work from Hydrogen but didn\\\'t get any.

Now, one thing that is peculiar about Hydrogen is that when that server has no work, the client log shows...
 
[Hydrogen@Home] Message from server: No work sent


...in addition to the standard
24-Aug-2008 06:52:57 Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks


Is the \\\"Message from server: no work sent\\\" logged only when one has debug/logging options set in cc_config.xml?

I don\\\'t get that message from any of the projects I am attached to when they have no work. I am wondering if that message somehow triggers the SEGV and does LHC send that message too?


Can't recall. Will try to connect.
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No, it is not sending that message, only this:
Scheduler request succeeded, got 0 new tasks
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Message 20592 - Posted: 1 Oct 2008, 23:17:47 UTC - in response to Message 20591.  

Maybe some clues will turn up.


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In all seriousness, has anyone considered falling back to a 5.8.x version of BOINC and seeing if the problem is still there or not?
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Message 20593 - Posted: 1 Oct 2008, 23:25:23 UTC

I restarted lhc@home and shall report. I am still thinking that the problem arises when the server deletes a redundant result.
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