LHC@home

I now know what type of user you are and I really didn't want to believe there would be people like that on LHC@home but there are.

Hey, I'm not a "hacker" with bad intentions. If I was, I could have done much worse things than just a forum post from your account.

When I found the bug, I reported i privately, and helped fix it (and we found other bugs during the tests). Then I privately contacted some project admins telling them to upgrade. I could have gone around all existing projects stealing account keys instead; but I didn't. I did it with your account now just to show what kind of holes are hidden in the ancient server.

I'll stay away from LHC now. But I think there are a few options:
1) You upgrade the server.
2) You fix or workaround the security bugs, as a temporary solution (you may contact me so I tell you the ones I know).
3) You wait for more hacks to happen (not by me; I won't do anything else). Somebody just told me "I think I could update all LHC users' resource share to 0, I'd just have to dig out old code".
4) You shut the project down until either 1) or 2) is done to avoid 3).

Just my opinion.

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Just my opinion.

My opinion is, given your apparent connections to various BOINC resources, you could've conducted this discussion via mailing lists or by having Rom or David contact Neasan directly through email and/or phone to discuss the server upgrade. They could convey the urgency, if any, to Neasan directly and would be an "official" source.

I think these guys are doing infinitely better than what had happened with the prior administration, but...oh well, tis just my opinion...

Seems to me everyone should "stand back" and let Alex and Neason do their job without interference,and while constructive criticism is helpful it seems that all this arguing is counterproductive. considering what they inherited I think they're doing a great job and yes the server needs to be updated. NOW I'm sure their painfully aware of that. I guess it comes down to this, who's gonna be part of the problem and who's gonna be part of the solution? if their not getting it done as fast as you think they should then give them a hand instead of creating more headaches for them.
Just my two cents

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A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory

Now thats interesting.... you consider this project a charity.... personally I consider it an opportunity to help on a project that may help ALL mankind....

u'r worried about respect but u show NONE!





Dago........ for the last time......... ARE YOU GOING TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION, OR ARE YOU GOING TO BE PART OF THE PROBLEM?

DUH... IS THAT A TOUGH ONE?

since u have all this knowledge of BOINC/LHC I'D like to see you on the solution team!!

co'mon now lets see what you can do!..... I'm expecting GREAT THINGS!!!

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A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory

guess you dont have much of a memory either.... have a nice day! you need to re read that last post.....wheres all those GREAT THINGS? I wanna see you help for a change instead of trashing everyones effort on the message boards!!





ya right back at ya,... boy, u'r to smart for me!!!!!

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A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory

guess you dont have much of a memory either.... have a nice day! you need to re read that last post.....wheres all those GREAT THINGS? I wanna see you help for a change instead of trashing everyones effort on the message boards!!





ya right back at ya,... boy, u'r to smart for me!!!!!

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A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory

Fine, consider all these protest messages as us doing what we gotta do to teach them what they need to learn in order to run a respectful project.
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It may seem that way to you but to others it seems like they are now starting to take an interest in what's posted here rather than just laughing and walking away. Yes, at least that much has been accomplished, finally.

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Maybe a little taste of their own medicine will get us, the people who donate the CPU time that makes this project work, the respect we deserve.

You and others have expressed valid concerns, but I think that you should ease up a bit on the direct insults, but that's just my opinion.

Edit:

Decided to remove reply...

While the thread title certainly still applies to the goings-on now, all the noise is amounting to a thread hijack, which is why I decided to just remove what I had posted in response...

;) it seems every one is out of ammo for the time being :) peace reigns supreme.
Regards
Masud.
PS. Dago you feeling all right?

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?????????My mom???? gosh i put her away in her final resting place twenty years back.:( now i suppose my turn ;)
Regards
Masud.

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Maybe a little taste of their own medicine will get us, the people who donate the CPU time that makes this project work, the respect we deserve.

Respect is earned, and not always deserved. This is not a poke at you, but a comment on this process. You can have the well intentioned desire to improve this project, but ultimately this does fall into the hands of those runing the project. I am sure that they would love to upgrade the server systems to the latest and greatest, but may have other internal politics to deal with that cannot be discussed in this open forum.

And to quote a cliche "all good things take time". "Patience is a virtue".

If crunching LHC doesn't earn respect from LHC then do tell what we have to do to get respect. Stand on our heads and spit out gold ingots?

I said that I agreed with you in part about the IR issue and that a good middle ground was to do the project-side aborts.

What has LHC shared with us regarding how our donation is used? Seems about all we know is that we're helping to align the magnets. Wonderful! I'm sincerely glad to help but I think we deserve a few more details about IR when there seems to be no need for it to be as high as it is plus better server software.

The quote below, is exactly what you stated back in the "Because you asked" thread...

OK, so they post like "we're tweaking Sixtrack and the result verifier". Is that going to keep the k00ks happy? Probably not. So then the k00ks ask questions like "what are you doing to Sixtrack and the verifier". The team responds with technical details. Then the k00ks need to know what the technical details mean. And if the team doesn't respond with a crash course on BOINC Server the k00ks get all pissy that the team doesn't care and threaten to quit anyway. Give the k00ks the boot, cancel their accounts, they're just attention seeking kids that yammer on and on about nothing important just to yank people's chains. Yah, you got it, they're trolls.

'bout time I test something here.

EDIT: yup, as I expected, the security hole I used on previous posts in this thread to get into Neasan's account is still open.

Have a nice day. Keep your passwords safe! :)

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