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Message 18390 - Posted: 27 Oct 2007, 20:21:57 UTC

Just passed 100,000. I think the quota may be going up soon :-)
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Message 18392 - Posted: 27 Oct 2007, 21:21:48 UTC - in response to Message 18390.  

Just passed 100,000. I think the quota may be going up soon :-)


As I said some time ago, if they have work behind this to do, then a good starting point on the quota would be 8. That is more reasonable because it gives approx 4 hours of work for most modern machines, assuming a 30 minute running WU, which most of mine that ran for the full time have been.

Clearly with the quota set at 4 and the current work generation rate, the project is generating work faster than it can be processed. The big "if", is if the project can sustain this generation rate...?

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Message 18394 - Posted: 27 Oct 2007, 22:31:36 UTC

I say:

"Open the floodgates! Let's crunch these freaking numbers!!"

Go, go, go!!!!



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Message 18399 - Posted: 27 Oct 2007, 23:25:19 UTC - in response to Message 18394.  

I say:
"Open the floodgates! Let's crunch these freaking numbers!!"


The quota needs to be something reasonable. If it is not, then you will have all these gripes and complaints about people hoarding stuff for themselves. Nevermind that no project guarantees all participants work at all times.

A reasonable quota to start with would be 8/core (4 core max). If there is sufficient workload behind all this, then doubling that to 16/core would keep most everyone happy, I would think...

One thing that needs to be considered by us volunteers though are our resource allocations. I'm currently only at 1% for this project. I'm turning stuff in much quicker than I should be because I'm suspending other work while my 4/day are worked on... I set this project at 1% some time ago because I felt it would be a backup in case SETI and Einstein were both down. If the project is going to have a continual stream of work, then I need to make some sort of decision as to exactly how much time I wish to give to this project...

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Message 18408 - Posted: 28 Oct 2007, 4:48:02 UTC

I would like to see the 4-core max setting removed. Just make is a # per core, period.
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Message 18409 - Posted: 28 Oct 2007, 4:49:39 UTC - in response to Message 18408.  

I would like to see the 4-core max setting removed. Just make is a # per core, period.

Current scheduler code has the CPU limit at 8, so that's yet another problem that is solved by a server upgrade.

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Message 18410 - Posted: 28 Oct 2007, 4:53:47 UTC

Good thing time was spent on changing the look and feel of the web site, rather than fixing the servers.
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Message 18412 - Posted: 28 Oct 2007, 5:20:40 UTC - in response to Message 18410.  

don't care how many ya do, so long as you give back results before getting more.
I'm here to help, not to get my alloted share.

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Message 18413 - Posted: 28 Oct 2007, 5:25:11 UTC - in response to Message 18410.  

Good thing time was spent on changing the look and feel of the web site, rather than fixing the servers.

They succeeded at making the upgrade even harder; now they have to merge the new look changes with the thousand changes from the official code. Seriously, that was totally the wrong order.
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Message 18430 - Posted: 28 Oct 2007, 22:35:22 UTC - in response to Message 18409.  

I would like to see the 4-core max setting removed. Just make is a # per core, period.

Current scheduler code has the CPU limit at 8, so that's yet another problem that is solved by a server upgrade.

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If the server was updated the max_wus_in_progress tag could be used instead of a low quota.
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Message 18439 - Posted: 29 Oct 2007, 10:23:32 UTC - in response to Message 18413.  

Good thing time was spent on changing the look and feel of the web site, rather than fixing the servers.

They succeeded at making the upgrade even harder; now they have to merge the new look changes with the thousand changes from the official code. Seriously, that was totally the wrong order.

I tell you what I'll do my job and you do yours mmm'kay?

The quota has been altered. We've been talking to the scientists about the workflow and at the moment they are unsure whether it will be more constant when we know you'll know
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Message 18473 - Posted: 31 Oct 2007, 16:03:24 UTC

I see some posts are getting deleted. I'm having a Predictor@Home censorship flashback.
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Message 18474 - Posted: 31 Oct 2007, 16:21:54 UTC

Trolling (posting hostile or insulting comments) is not allowed, I've let people away with it up until now but to be honest I've had enough, I've let people have their say and now they just keep abusing me (personally) and this service if you think that is acceptable use of these boards well I'm sorry but I don't.

You're post was deleted for a different reason than the above and you know why I'll have done that and I'm well within my rights to do that. Or do you disagree with that?
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Message 18475 - Posted: 31 Oct 2007, 16:27:37 UTC - in response to Message 18474.  
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Hey Neasan,

you did right! I followed this the last few days and there is no reason to abuse anyone at L@H. You all do a great Job.

...but maybe there are some more units to crunch.

@PovAddict: Did you think about why this happens?

greetz

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Message 18476 - Posted: 31 Oct 2007, 17:22:14 UTC - in response to Message 18474.  
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Your post was deleted for a different reason than the above and you know why I'll have done that and I'm well within my rights to do that. Or do you disagree with that?

Well, what if I put hidden messages on all my posts? This one, for example, may have more hidden instructions, visible when replying.

Instructions: How to make people logout constantly.

It's quite simple. Change your forum signature to include the following (without the spaces):

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When somebody loads the "image" on your signature, it would log him out. That is, everybody would get logged out whenever he loads a thread where you have posted. Really annoying :D

EDIT: removed the account-key-stealer code.
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Message 18477 - Posted: 31 Oct 2007, 17:53:27 UTC - in response to Message 18476.  
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Your post was deleted for a different reason than the above and you know why I'll have done that and I'm well within my rights to do that. Or do you disagree with that?

Well, what if I put hidden messages on all my posts? This one, for example, may have more hidden instructions, visible when replying.

Then I will just delete it
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Message 18478 - Posted: 31 Oct 2007, 17:55:22 UTC - in response to Message 18477.  
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Then I will just delete it

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I now know what type of user you are and I really didn't want to believe there would be people like that on LHC@home but there are.
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Message 18479 - Posted: 31 Oct 2007, 18:05:10 UTC - in response to Message 18478.  

Then I will just delete it

How about upgrading your server so that I can't do what I'm doing right now? --PovAddict

Because I haven't got around to it.
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Message 18480 - Posted: 31 Oct 2007, 18:34:57 UTC - in response to Message 18442.  


:) LoL! what will we do with zillions of new crunchers when we cant fill the bellies of the present crunchers. Alex and Neasan ;) you seem to be looking at the problem from the wrong angle :O
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Good thing time was spent on changing the look and feel of the web site, rather than fixing the servers.

They succeeded at making the upgrade even harder; now they have to merge the new look changes with the thousand changes from the official code. Seriously, that was totally the wrong order.

I tell you what I'll do my job and you do yours mmm'kay?

The quota has been altered. We've been talking to the scientists about the workflow and at the moment they are unsure whether it will be more constant when we know you'll know


Oh dear, he's told them off now hasn't he.

Zombie and PovAddict you've got the wrong impression. What they are trying to achieve here is more like art or perhaps a fashion statement... a marvel of modern engineering juxtaposed beside a quaint little BOINC server, sub-atomic particles whirring about at close to c beside server that just trundles along ka-bump, ka-bump, kabump. Relax! Breathe in the ambience. I'll put Mario Lanza on the phonograph if you'll crank the handle. We'll make up lies to tell our grand-children about how you and I, greatest particle fizzicists in the world, found der Higgs.

Now that we have this beautiful new website that does nothing the old one didn't we are sure to attract zillions of new crunchers to crunch work we're not too sure will ever exist. Ingenious!! Ahh, here it is... Mario singing Whutderfuk Ist Bain Happenink Dis Plaze.







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