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Message 18118 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007, 17:17:22 UTC

Hi Alex, Neasan,

could you pls. have a look at wuid=1711094.
I wonder if this is ok, all 5 results were received, but it is still pending.
May this be because all 5 claimed 0.0 (which is imho no wonder for max 1.67 seconds computing)?

last but not least - many thanks to you to get lhc alive again!

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Message 18120 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007, 17:40:26 UTC - in response to Message 18118.  

Interestingly strange. If the results don't match, the validate state would be "no consensus yet". If some of the results are invalid, the validate state would be "invalid". In both cases, an extra replica would have been sent. None of this happened; validate state is "initial" which I think means the validator hasn't even looked at the results yet. Server status doesn't show any big validation backlog
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Message 18123 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007, 17:43:15 UTC - in response to Message 18118.  

Another pending with all goose eggs WU 1711447
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Message 18134 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007, 21:26:16 UTC

If you look at the result for one of the computers, you will see
Claimed credit 0.00203023874306043

It means that Sixtrack was crunching a work unit which had the particles crash into the wall on startup.

I'm not the LHC Alex. Just a number cruncher like everyone else here.
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Message 18143 - Posted: 14 Oct 2007, 8:59:23 UTC - in response to Message 18134.  

If you look at the result for one of the computers, you will see
Claimed credit 0.00203023874306043

It means that Sixtrack was crunching a work unit which had the particles crash into the wall on startup.


So, this was a normal exit for a model with a bad cofiguration? Now it makes sense.
Cyber particles crash into cyber walls and the cyber system shuts down -- without any smoke.
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Message 18150 - Posted: 14 Oct 2007, 14:20:33 UTC


:-) its better to have cyber particles crash into the cyber walls then to have actual particles crash into actual walls. LoL. thats what our contribution/bit to science is ;-) the alignment of the magnets. i hope our cyber systems are doing their honest best ;-) other wise the actual world will go up in smoke.:-(
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Message 18151 - Posted: 14 Oct 2007, 15:44:33 UTC

I got 58 of those guys (0.00 claimed on pending credit page, precise claim nonzero but zero when rounded to two decimal places) hanging around, the oldest from Feb 6 2007.
Looks to me like the validator doesn´t touch them because the claimed credit is too small but they are not thrown away/purged by whatever process has that task because they are nonzero.
May be a case of unsynchronized threshold values or something like that.
Perhaps Neasan or Alex could have a look at that if they have the time because those WUs probably clutter up the server unnecessarily ;-)

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Message 18554 - Posted: 5 Nov 2007, 16:23:35 UTC - in response to Message 18151.  

Bump ;-)

I got 58 of those guys (0.00 claimed on pending credit page, precise claim nonzero but zero when rounded to two decimal places) hanging around, the oldest from Feb 6 2007.
Looks to me like the validator doesn´t touch them because the claimed credit is too small but they are not thrown away/purged by whatever process has that task because they are nonzero.
May be a case of unsynchronized threshold values or something like that.
Perhaps Neasan or Alex could have a look at that if they have the time because those WUs probably clutter up the server unnecessarily ;-)

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Message 18649 - Posted: 1 Dec 2007, 12:31:16 UTC
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I also have 3 WU's 0.00 claimed pending credits! One of those WU's http://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/workunit.php?wuid=1892389
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Message 18651 - Posted: 1 Dec 2007, 19:26:08 UTC - in response to Message 18649.  

I also have 3 WU's 0.00 claimed pending credits! One of those WU's http://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/workunit.php?wuid=1892389

Actually, you're claiming, from the top one to the bottom one, 0.00233318497995638, 0.00408711093157513 and 0.00235602975402844 credit.

You had three very fast tasks, of less than a second to slightly over a second.
If you check the workunit IDs, you see that everyone claimed so little credit for those tasks.
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Message 18655 - Posted: 2 Dec 2007, 21:35:15 UTC - in response to Message 18651.  

I also have 3 WU's 0.00 claimed pending credits! One of those WU's http://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/workunit.php?wuid=1892389

Actually, you're claiming, from the top one to the bottom one, 0.00233318497995638, 0.00408711093157513 and 0.00235602975402844 credit.

You had three very fast tasks, of less than a second to slightly over a second.
If you check the workunit IDs, you see that everyone claimed so little credit for those tasks.


Blah... Both of you are "accurate", just you were more "precise".

At any rate, perhaps the recent issuing of results (that I missed) means that the project staff is back from whatever they were dealing with and can now perhaps address questions on this?
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Message 18675 - Posted: 9 Dec 2007, 0:50:27 UTC

I have 4 WU's still:
1812141; Oct 28/28th.
1813416; Oct 28/28th again.
1818797; Oct 30/31st.
1818805; Oct 30/31st again.
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Message 18676 - Posted: 9 Dec 2007, 2:10:38 UTC

8501821 - 1 Mar 2007
8501829 - 1 Mar 2007
8802598 - 13 Sep 2007
9676742 - 29 Oct 2007
9344746 - 3 Nov 2007
9919653 - 4 Nov 2007
9755344 - 16 Nov 2007

All of those have 0.00 credit (meaning 0.000325353whatever, something very small)
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Message 18677 - Posted: 9 Dec 2007, 2:38:39 UTC
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Oy Vey!!

All I seem to get is these occasional successful zero credit wu's and only a couple a month.

The only pc that got 2 credits is one I run that is about 800 miles away.

Yet my dual core machine never gets more than 2 a month at best.

Makes no sense at all.

Great sharing these with new members.......but come on now......give us original members something since I run all of my machines 24/7 since the beginning!

And I'm not one that runs all 4 million projects at the same time either.

Bah!



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Well I just finished and turned in those 2 and actually got 2 more....... .

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Message 18720 - Posted: 17 Dec 2007, 7:39:33 UTC

Well I have been getting work on all the machines lately but I still have these 66 0.00 units in my pending file.

I've had this full page of them for a long time now.

I wonder if they will ever disappear.......no big deal but it does make the other units look like they are lost in a lost world


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Message 18741 - Posted: 19 Dec 2007, 8:13:11 UTC

Same problem here... Have a look: http://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/results.php?userid=2620
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Message 18744 - Posted: 20 Dec 2007, 0:18:45 UTC

Ah good, it's not my machine stuffing up ... I have a several pending with 0 claimed.
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Message 18751 - Posted: 21 Dec 2007, 5:37:59 UTC

All I want for Xmas is to get rid of the 60+ 0.00x pending results I have in my list!
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Message 18757 - Posted: 22 Dec 2007, 4:32:12 UTC - in response to Message 18751.  
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All I want for Xmas is to get rid of the 60+ 0.00x pending results I have in my list!


and all I want is my 0.3 bits of pending credit for my 92
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Message 18776 - Posted: 2 Jan 2008, 0:38:26 UTC
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"let 0.00xx workunits be deleted and never brought to mind,
May Neasan and Alex find the time, in these days of Auld Lang Syne!" :)
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