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Message 17297 - Posted: 8 Jul 2007, 10:58:54 UTC

I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DOWNLOAD ANY WORK FOR A YEAR OR SO. NO WONDER YOUR HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE HARDWARE (i.e. Magnets too hot)
UPDATE/INFORM THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR YOU BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN THE PROJECT !
IM SURE YOU CAN SEND SOMETHING OUT...
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Message 17304 - Posted: 9 Jul 2007, 4:42:20 UTC - in response to Message 17297.  

I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DOWNLOAD ANY WORK FOR A YEAR OR SO. NO WONDER YOUR HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE HARDWARE (i.e. Magnets too hot)
UPDATE/INFORM THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR YOU BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN THE PROJECT !
IM SURE YOU CAN SEND SOMETHING OUT...


Since you obviously haven't read the sticky thread in the number crunching forum, I'll paste it here:

This is a project that only requires occasional resources. When major new sets of runs have been planned we have been told in the past, and I expect we will be told again. Minor sets of runs are submitted as and when a question arises unexpectedly. If you stay on this project, expect to go for months at a time with no work. This is considered normal on this project, so do not expect explanations to be posted of why this happens.

This project is not suitable as a stand-alone BOINC project, by which I mean as a project that is the only BOINC project you are running at all, or the only project running on a particular machine. Too often there would be no work, and you would be better off powering your machine down. Anyone here wanting a stand-alone project would save themselves, and other users, and the project team, a lot of grief by going elsewhere. I am not being nasty by saying this -- you deserve to contribute where you will be happy, and that will never be here. We all wish you all the very best in finding a project that suits your needs.

This project is very suitable as a project to run in combination with another project. If you want to run as much LHC as possible, give LHC around 90% of the resources, and whenever work is available then LHC will be the dominant project in your machine. When LHC work is not available then the other project will run.

Be assured that when work is available, the results are needed. If you remain connected to this project you *are* doing something of value: you are donating a standby computer platform to the beam physics people so that they can come back and re-check their results at any time without having to set up a whole new project to do so.

If you do decide to stay, you need to pick another project, and the reality is that the BOINC stats will show that you will be doing a lot more work for that other project than for LHC (see my stats for example below). Two projects I'd suggest are Rosetta or CPDN.

Rosetta has a nifty scheme where you can adjust the run length of work units even after they start. Runing in parallel with LHC you'd ask for work to run for 1 day in the normal case where there is no work here. As soon as you notice LHC has work you'd cut Rosetta down to run its work for only 1 hour at a time. To do this you just visit the Rosetta website, change a setting, then ask the BOINC client to update Rosetta on all your machines. Running Rosetta workunits will then stop at the next checkpoint, and any queued Rosetta work work will not take long to get through. Don't for get to set Rosetta back to 1 day when the LHC work is all gone!

CPDN is good as its work units are so long that they will hardly notice when they are interrupted for a few days by LHC. It is a good choice if you have a modern machine and want to run "hands off".

Or, of course, any project where the science grabs your fancy is a good one to support, as you will be doing something that you personally value even when there is no work here. And of course, you can always pick more than one other project - BOINC works well with any number of projects on the go at once.

River~~


p.s. make sure your CAPS lock is off when before you type & post
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Message 17320 - Posted: 10 Jul 2007, 9:22:29 UTC - in response to Message 17304.  

I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DOWNLOAD ANY WORK FOR A YEAR OR SO. NO WONDER YOUR HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE HARDWARE (i.e. Magnets too hot)
UPDATE/INFORM THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR YOU BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN THE PROJECT !
IM SURE YOU CAN SEND SOMETHING OUT...


Since you obviously haven't read the sticky thread in the number crunching forum, I'll paste it here:

This is a project that only requires occasional resources. When major new sets of runs have been planned we have been told in the past, and I expect we will be told again. Minor sets of runs are submitted as and when a question arises unexpectedly. If you stay on this project, expect to go for months at a time with no work. This is considered normal on this project, so do not expect explanations to be posted of why this happens.

This project is not suitable as a stand-alone BOINC project, by which I mean as a project that is the only BOINC project you are running at all, or the only project running on a particular machine. Too often there would be no work, and you would be better off powering your machine down. Anyone here wanting a stand-alone project would save themselves, and other users, and the project team, a lot of grief by going elsewhere. I am not being nasty by saying this -- you deserve to contribute where you will be happy, and that will never be here. We all wish you all the very best in finding a project that suits your needs.

This project is very suitable as a project to run in combination with another project. If you want to run as much LHC as possible, give LHC around 90% of the resources, and whenever work is available then LHC will be the dominant project in your machine. When LHC work is not available then the other project will run.

Be assured that when work is available, the results are needed. If you remain connected to this project you *are* doing something of value: you are donating a standby computer platform to the beam physics people so that they can come back and re-check their results at any time without having to set up a whole new project to do so.

If you do decide to stay, you need to pick another project, and the reality is that the BOINC stats will show that you will be doing a lot more work for that other project than for LHC (see my stats for example below). Two projects I'd suggest are Rosetta or CPDN.

Rosetta has a nifty scheme where you can adjust the run length of work units even after they start. Runing in parallel with LHC you'd ask for work to run for 1 day in the normal case where there is no work here. As soon as you notice LHC has work you'd cut Rosetta down to run its work for only 1 hour at a time. To do this you just visit the Rosetta website, change a setting, then ask the BOINC client to update Rosetta on all your machines. Running Rosetta workunits will then stop at the next checkpoint, and any queued Rosetta work work will not take long to get through. Don't for get to set Rosetta back to 1 day when the LHC work is all gone!

CPDN is good as its work units are so long that they will hardly notice when they are interrupted for a few days by LHC. It is a good choice if you have a modern machine and want to run "hands off".

Or, of course, any project where the science grabs your fancy is a good one to support, as you will be doing something that you personally value even when there is no work here. And of course, you can always pick more than one other project - BOINC works well with any number of projects on the go at once.

River~~


p.s. make sure your CAPS lock is off when before you type & post


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Message 17321 - Posted: 10 Jul 2007, 9:28:35 UTC

I RUN LHC WITH 7 OTHER PROJECTS, I HAD A POST DELETED AS "OBSCENE" ? DO THEY MEAN MY GRAND UNIFIED THEORY IN THEIR VIEW IS OBSCENE, I DID NOT USE ANY PROFANITY OR EVEN A DOUBLE-ENTENDRE.
WHAT WAS WRONG ?
I LIKE TO TYPE SIDEWAYS WITH TWO FINGERS, SO ITS EASIER TO KEEP THE "CAP-LOCK" ON.
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Message 17331 - Posted: 11 Jul 2007, 18:24:14 UTC - in response to Message 17304.  

[quote]I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DOWNLOAD ANY WORK FOR A YEAR OR SO. NO WONDER YOUR HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE HARDWARE (i.e. Magnets too hot)
UPDATE/INFORM THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR YOU BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN THE PROJECT !
IM SURE YOU CAN SEND SOMETHING OUT...


I am not affiliated with the project, I am only a fellow user.

You can find the latest news on the home page:

http://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/

Older news can be found here:

http://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/old_news.php

I RUN LHC WITH 7 OTHER PROJECTS, I HAD A POST DELETED AS "OBSCENE" ? DO THEY MEAN MY GRAND UNIFIED THEORY IN THEIR VIEW IS OBSCENE, I DID NOT USE ANY PROFANITY OR EVEN A DOUBLE-ENTENDRE.
WHAT WAS WRONG ?
I LIKE TO TYPE SIDEWAYS WITH TWO FINGERS, SO ITS EASIER TO KEEP THE "CAP-LOCK" ON.


As for the lack of work, you should reread the note from the stickied thread that I pasted above.

You will go long stretches of time without crunching for this project, especially if you have 7 other projects and you're giving all 8 equal amount of resources, as your machine is probably not able to take on any work from LHC when WUs are available b/c you're full from other projects.

I have no idea about deleted posts. As I mentioned, I'm neither a staff member, admin or moderator.

Regarding the all caps, despite your inclination to type w/ 2 fingers, it's considered shouting and is harder to read.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette#Forum_etiquette
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Message 17364 - Posted: 15 Jul 2007, 14:14:47 UTC

wohoo!

my 1st bacth of units since the 11th of july.
I was able to get 5 to process ;-)

Yippee.

Just thought to let you all know ;-)
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Message 17538 - Posted: 25 Jul 2007, 6:43:54 UTC - in response to Message 17364.  

wohoo!

my 1st bacth of units since the 11th of july.
I was able to get 5 to process ;-)

Yippee.

Just thought to let you all know ;-)


I was able to get some, as well. :)

25 WUs in this latest batch.
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