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Message 16294 - Posted: 12 Feb 2007, 6:09:19 UTC

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Message 16295 - Posted: 12 Feb 2007, 8:25:06 UTC - in response to Message 16294.  
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How do I close my account?

Select lhcathome from the Projects tab, click the "Detach" button on the left, then cry yourself to sleep.





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Message 16297 - Posted: 12 Feb 2007, 8:43:12 UTC - in response to Message 16295.  
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That just detaches the client. I don't think it removes the account information from the server.

clicking on the LHC@home link on the top right allows you to get to the account information. From there, one can remove their community profile, and hide their computers.

besides, their pc is a linux box, so they'd have to run command line stuff instead of clicking buttons in a gui.

I recall that there's a help switch with the command line, and there's a detatch option. I'm guessing it would look like :
boinc --project http://lhcathome.cern.ch detach

myself, I used boincview under wine.
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Message 16332 - Posted: 13 Feb 2007, 23:16:00 UTC - in response to Message 16297.  
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myself, I used boincview under wine.

I'm using KBoincSpy on openSUSE/KDE
http://kboincspy.sourceforge.net
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Message 16349 - Posted: 15 Feb 2007, 7:33:16 UTC - in response to Message 16297.  
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That just detaches the client. I don't think it removes the account information from the server.

clicking on the LHC@home link on the top right allows you to get to the account information. From there, one can remove their community profile, and hide their computers.



correct, and you can change your email address to something non-existent but with plausible syntax.

Also I'd suggest deleting your boxes if possible (which means waiting till all the work from them is deleted, which will be a long wait on LHC).

Which is as far as you can go in'closing' your account. The project keeps the a/c id forever


besides, their pc is a linux box, so they'd have to run command line stuff instead of clicking buttons in a gui.

there are at least six ways to use a gui to control a linux box, please see this thread

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Message 16390 - Posted: 21 Feb 2007, 19:30:37 UTC - in response to Message 16297.  

besides, their pc is a linux box, so they'd have to run command line stuff instead of clicking buttons in a gui.

Right, and Linux doesn't have a GUI, does it?
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Message 16415 - Posted: 26 Feb 2007, 14:21:22 UTC - in response to Message 16390.  

besides, their pc is a linux box, so they'd have to run command line stuff instead of clicking buttons in a gui.

Right, and Linux doesn't have a GUI, does it?


Linux also has the possibility of creating ascii gui systems (like old BIOSes used to be). Applied to this thread, we could call that

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Message 16417 - Posted: 26 Feb 2007, 15:57:46 UTC - in response to Message 16415.  

besides, their pc is a linux box, so they'd have to run command line stuff instead of clicking buttons in a gui.

Right, and Linux doesn't have a GUI, does it?


Linux also has the possibility of creating ascii gui systems (like old BIOSes used to be). Applied to this thread, we could call that

(wait for it, it's an awful pun)

Close Accounters of the Third Kind...


I should ban you for that one ;-D
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Message 16418 - Posted: 26 Feb 2007, 17:58:49 UTC - in response to Message 16390.  
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besides, their pc is a linux box, so they'd have to run command line stuff instead of clicking buttons in a gui.

Right, and Linux doesn't have a GUI, does it?


Can Linux run underneath a full-fledged GUI... somewhat the way DOS used to run underneath Windows and Solaris can, but doesn't necessarily need to, run underneath Java Desktop? Also, does BOINCview run well on Wine? What about KBoincSpy? Finally (hope I'm not annoying you all) is openSUSE/KDE something that runs with Linux or instead of Linux? (Hey, don't roll your eyes like that!)

I'm thinking of converting one of my Windows boxes to a Linux box, so any helpful comments would be much appreciated.

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Message 16430 - Posted: 28 Feb 2007, 8:17:12 UTC - in response to Message 16418.  

besides, their pc is a linux box, so they'd have to run command line stuff instead of clicking buttons in a gui.

Right, and Linux doesn't have a GUI, does it?


Can Linux run underneath a full-fledged GUI... somewhat the way DOS used to run underneath Windows and Solaris can, but doesn't necessarily need to, run underneath Java Desktop? Also, does BOINCview run well on Wine? What about KBoincSpy? Finally (hope I'm not annoying you all) is openSUSE/KDE something that runs with Linux or instead of Linux? (Hey, don't roll your eyes like that!)

I'm thinking of converting one of my Windows boxes to a Linux box, so any helpful comments would be much appreciated.


Linux runs well as a command line.

Boincview ok under wine. I ran it under Knoppix 3.2 live cd, and used wine to run the executable. It takes a half a minute to get the wine server started.
Things that don't run well under wine are programs that access the hardware directly. Wine is just a way of running windows apps in on the linux desktop.

Kboincspy is a KDE app (it starts with a K, which is the giveaway)
KDE is a gui which runs on linux. KDE and Gnome are the two main GUI systems you'll see out there.

Running a knoppix live CD ( or Kubuntu live CD) is the quickest way of 'getting to use' linux without having to go through the install process.


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Message 16431 - Posted: 28 Feb 2007, 9:00:00 UTC - in response to Message 16430.  
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[...]KDE and Gnome are the two main GUI systems you'll see out there.
Running a knoppix live CD ( or Kubuntu live CD) is the quickest way of 'getting to use' linux without having to go through the install process.

Thanks much for the information! It's nice to find such a helpful person in the Forum.


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Message 16446 - Posted: 2 Mar 2007, 0:57:40 UTC - in response to Message 16445.  
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Can Linux run underneath a full-fledged GUI... somewhat the way DOS used to run underneath Windows...
You've got it all backwards. GUIs, including Windows, always have and always will run on top of the basic command line operating system. You seem to think it's the other way around.

Actually, I didn't get it backward. I used the word underneath which confused you. Obviously, it would have been more clear to use the term on top of and to reverse the word positions. Grammar.

Regardless, I want to thank you for the great information. I appreciate you taking the time to set me straight on the other Linux issues. My eyes have been opened to the complexity of Linux, and your excellent recommendations will go to good use. Thanks so much!!

An afterthought: I've heard that Windows XP no longer runs on top of DOS (which seems possible, because the Windows file system doesn't quite match the "command line" file system anymore; if you boot into DOS, the Windows file system isn't even visible.) Is it possible that the XP command line is merely a "DOS-like" emulation interface? If this is true, what is Windows XP - and Vista - really running on top of?

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Message 16449 - Posted: 2 Mar 2007, 8:10:49 UTC - in response to Message 16446.  

Is it possible that the XP command line is merely a "DOS-like" emulation interface? If this is true, what is Windows XP - and Vista - really running on top of?



A quick answer is that the NT products run their NT kernel. The kernel is the heart of an operating system which 'runs stuff'. It can run stuff without running the gui first, (start up in safemode, and you'll see stuff start up... and you can access a command line from there.)

Both the NT and linux kernels run stuff, multitask, etc.

Dagorath is correct about the different flavors being interesting to work with.
I recently put OpenWRT on my router, and in trying to get the ftp server, and samba up, I get conflicting directions when I google 'samba' 'openwrt' based on the flavor of install. Some examples have the config files in \opt\etc\ others have them in \etc\
Some sample config files have a 'ftp user', some use the 'nobody' user for security... so the user guide varies depending on what distribution you're running.
I'm still not used to the more 'klingonese' linux commands.

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Message 16456 - Posted: 4 Mar 2007, 9:52:23 UTC

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Win 3.x and earlier were DOS applications that operated as GUI desktops. This is the way the Linux GUI systems still work.

Win9x tied the GUI very tightly to the underlying MSDOS

The NT kernel was an attempt to design a system that included the entire OS in a single application. On an NT machine MSDOS is supported by emulation.

WinXP integrated the Win9x APIs into NT and the DOS based systems have now been officially abandoned.

NT has a command line & GUI, but the integration is so tight that they are 1 system rather than 2 tightly integrated systems that worked together as the Win 1.x-3.x & Win9x Windows were.

If you are brand new to Linux I would suggest getting a distro with the Gnome desktop. Advanced Linux users tend to dislike it due to it's not giving you as many ways to get things done. For a beginner this is good as the learning curve is not quite as steep. Later when you've gotten comfortable you'll probably want to switch to the K desktop (KDE)which is the most popular of the GUIs that give you much more freedom to do things exactly the way you want. Whichever one you get you will have a full featured command line Linux.

Before settling on a distro, read the forums that support the various distros available and try to find a user community you're comfortable with. Each of the distros has strengths & weaknesses. Some distros make it easy to install applications, others assume you are a power user and will be customizing any install so they offer little or no handholding ... which works for you is one of things you'll be learning :)
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