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Message 15845 - Posted: 20 Dec 2006, 13:59:20 UTC

Hi there KAMasud --

Glad you're still with us and congratulations on getting some of the recent work.

As for the difference in times - that is probably due to the makeup of the work itself. I, too, am seeing many of the WorkUnits completing in 60-70% of the time originally shown in the "To Completion Time" column. I do not run any "optimized" software, nor do I overclock my machines, so I can only assume one of the following:
(1) The benchmark test LHC uses to determine speed needs to be adjusted slightly.
(2) I might have had a WU that took a very long time to complete, and the program adjusted the times according to that WU.
(3) I'm not sure if a returned WU labelled with "Client Error" or "Computing Error" will impact that estimate, but I guess its possible.

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Message 15846 - Posted: 20 Dec 2006, 14:12:35 UTC - in response to Message 15845.  

Maybe I can put some light on the short runtimes of many of the latest WU's.

I've been with LHC for quite some time, so I know what it's about.....

The time calculated as "calculated time" depends on how many "turns" you've got with each WU. This is a variable only the Admins change prior to creating WU's. The Sixtrack software simulates electrons travelling within the LHC. Once in a while one or more electrons crash into the wall and are subtracted from the calculation and this leads into less electrons travelling in the next turn.

So when you start with X electrons at, let's say 1.000.000 turns, you get Z time needed. This will vary on your cpu. Of course faster cpu's will calculate the one million turns faster than a slow one.

If too many electrons crash, the whole simulation ends immediately or is calculated within minutes if not seconds.

I hope this helps.

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PS: @River~~ any corrections to my info?
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Message 15849 - Posted: 20 Dec 2006, 14:29:03 UTC

Thank you SysFried, for that explaination. I appreciate your comments ...


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Message 15914 - Posted: 26 Dec 2006, 13:10:33 UTC - in response to Message 15845.  


:-) Thats what confused me? To Completion Time was 5 hours but all those WU's 4 some reason completed in less then 10 seconds? :-) So i suppose it was an honest mistake but i still feel icky about them.:-(
:-) Any way "Merry Cristmas and a Happy New Year 2 U and UR family 2:-)
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Hi there KAMasud --

Glad you're still with us and congratulations on getting some of the recent work.

As for the difference in times - that is probably due to the makeup of the work itself. I, too, am seeing many of the WorkUnits completing in 60-70% of the time originally shown in the "To Completion Time" column. I do not run any "optimized" software, nor do I overclock my machines, so I can only assume one of the following:
(1) The benchmark test LHC uses to determine speed needs to be adjusted slightly.
(2) I might have had a WU that took a very long time to complete, and the program adjusted the times according to that WU.
(3) I'm not sure if a returned WU labelled with "Client Error" or "Computing Error" will impact that estimate, but I guess its possible.

Let me take this opportunity of the Holiday Season to extend to you and your family wishes for Peace, Health, Happiness and Long-Life ...


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Message 15915 - Posted: 26 Dec 2006, 13:14:21 UTC


:-) LoL dont tell me all my electrons crashed at start up? :-)
Anyways thank you very much for that explanation:-)
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Message 15962 - Posted: 2 Jan 2007, 10:13:24 UTC - in response to Message 15915.  


:-) LoL dont tell me all my electrons crashed at start up? :-)
Anyways thank you very much for that explanation:-)
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There are actually protons!!
If electrons would run on proton-synchroton settings, they will get lost very fast!! :)
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Message 15964 - Posted: 2 Jan 2007, 13:34:52 UTC

:-) Electrons or protons? Got another load in which they crashed twenty minutes from start up:-) Getting used to them :-) Someone may have adjusted the magnets a bit to much,:-(
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Message 15966 - Posted: 2 Jan 2007, 15:57:00 UTC - in response to Message 15964.  

:-) Electrons or protons? Got another load in which they crashed twenty minutes from start up:-) Getting used to them :-) Someone may have adjusted the magnets a bit to much,:-(
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Protons, of course!!
LHC stands for Large Hadron Collider, a proton is a hadron.
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Message 15975 - Posted: 3 Jan 2007, 0:03:56 UTC - in response to Message 15966.  


Protons, of course!!
LHC stands for Large Hadron Collider, a proton is a hadron.


When I went to school in the 50s and 60s, we were taught that the basic indivisible building blocks of matter were protons, neutrons and electrons. Now there is this mind blowing array of exotic theoretical particles, apparently all experimentally observed with the single exception of the Higgs boson. It will be very interesting to see what happens if the LHC doesn't finally unmask this little sucker :).

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Message 16047 - Posted: 5 Jan 2007, 14:05:07 UTC


:-) Of course :-) Just leg pulling, LoL :-)Higgs boson? YuuuP! wont that be exciting :-) wonder what they will find after that? we learned all about Rutherford? now the sky is the limit :-)
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