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Message 15162 - Posted: 23 Oct 2006, 14:11:07 UTC
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I will bump this thread every so often in the hope that people will see it before asking.

When we get a moderator here, please could you sticky this thread?



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Message 15364 - Posted: 6 Nov 2006, 8:45:12 UTC
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In the last two weeks we have had two releases of work. If you are new to this project, please take time to read the whole of this thread as the recent experience is not typical -- before mid October the previous significant release of work was in July, with just a few WU here and there in August and September.

In this thread you will find info about the amount of work we have been getting, and info on how to find out more for yourself, including how to access a set of graphs provided by fellow participant that show work patterns since late September 2006.

If you have suggestions about how the work should be / should have been distributed, please go to the "fairer distribuition of work" thread to make those suggestions - this thread is just about the situation as it actually is not as we may wish it to be.

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Message 15591 - Posted: 20 Nov 2006, 9:30:09 UTC
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Fortnightly update

We had work on 2nd Nov and again on 18th - both of which lasted long enough for everyone to get some. If your machines were atteched to this project during those days, please go to this thread to find a discussion of why you might not have got any.

We also had other minor issues of work during the time between those dates, where it was a bit of a lottery whether you got any or not. Please read the whole of this thread before asking why we get so little work here!

Please also note we are on an upward slope again - we have already had more work in 3wks of November than in 3months from August to October inclusive. If you feel this is not enough for you, then please don't complain, please find another project that is more to your liking.

Because of the low amount of work here, we recommend that you run at least one more project in parallel with LHC - at least two if they have their own down times. Suggestions for projects to mix with LHC.

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Message 15748 - Posted: 30 Nov 2006, 14:12:21 UTC
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Please read the whole of this thread before asking why there is no work here.

For quich advice on how to be ready for LHC work when it comes, see this thread
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Message 16342 - Posted: 14 Feb 2007, 20:35:44 UTC - in response to Message 15748.  



Bumped for your viewing pleasure.

To new admins (BTW, you're doing great so far): As River~~ mentioned earlier, could we get this thread stickied? (eeeewww) Maybe even a permanent disclaimer on the front page about the frequency of work?
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Message 16352 - Posted: 15 Feb 2007, 11:50:41 UTC - in response to Message 16342.  
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Bumped for your viewing pleasure.

To new admins (BTW, you're doing great so far): As River~~ mentioned earlier, could we get this thread stickied? (eeeewww) Maybe even a permanent disclaimer on the front page about the frequency of work?


Thanks for bumping this I will sticky it if I work out how to (even as a mod I can't edit other people's posts which is a little strange)

EDIT: Oh I see there's a link at the top of the topic, stickified
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Message 16356 - Posted: 15 Feb 2007, 14:23:36 UTC - in response to Message 16352.  

EDIT: Oh I see there's a link at the top of the topic, stickified

Now that I think about it, I could have made it sticky myself with the security issue I found :D (already reported to BOINC devs and they fixed it but LHC has such old server code)

Too bad I couldn't "hack into the servers and enable stats while there are no admins" like others were suggesting, lol.
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Message 16365 - Posted: 16 Feb 2007, 19:02:24 UTC - in response to Message 16352.  

...(even as a mod I can't edit other people's posts which is a little strange)


As a mod you can delete (which does not really delete, just hides them from all but mods and other superusers).

To get the effect of editing someone elses's posting, delete it, reply to it, alter the quote as desired, and leave a note at the end saying why it was moderated (eg bad language removed/added/etc)

I understand the reason for this arrangement is to stop evil mods from editing other poeple's work in ways that they would not like.

Thanks for stickying this thread.
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Message 16377 - Posted: 20 Feb 2007, 15:10:16 UTC - in response to Message 16365.  

YAY!!! it's sticky!!!!!!

Let's hope people will read it before asking for stats or new WU's..... :-)
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Message 16385 - Posted: 21 Feb 2007, 8:57:34 UTC - in response to Message 16365.  


I understand the reason for this arrangement is to stop evil mods from editing other poeple's work in ways that they would not like.


But I'm only evil at the weekends........ maybe
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Message 16395 - Posted: 23 Feb 2007, 21:28:15 UTC

Wowzers...
Those 16k or so work units disappeared in the blink of an eye!
Have a good week-end!

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Message 16397 - Posted: 24 Feb 2007, 2:35:22 UTC - in response to Message 16395.  
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Wowzers...
Those 16k or so work units disappeared in the blink of an eye!
Have a good week-end!


And another big batch released at exactly 2/24 01:00:00 UTC **poof**
They were GONE by 01:05:00 UTC! ---But I got a couple; first WUs in months!!

I love this project
Work or naught
Rain or drought.

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Message 16457 - Posted: 4 Mar 2007, 10:21:37 UTC

LHC isn't the only one that has droughts. I connect 13 projects ... Usually have work from 7 or 8 of them at any given time :)

As stated above, if you want your machine constantly working and connected to only one project, then connect to something like SETI or ClimatePrediction that has enough work to last for years.

When supporting projects that have intermittent work then you'll want to connect to several of them so that you are giving your unused resources to work that is needed while you wait on the one you really like.
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Message 16468 - Posted: 7 Mar 2007, 18:42:22 UTC

WooHoo - just got my FIRST WU since joining last December.
I have been doing some work on Rosetta and Einstein while waiting, I see as of now 7850 are avail, 10181 in progress. Not sure how many of that 10181 have been out there for ages, or if this new bunch will all get grabbed - my system just downloaded the one. It does grab several for other projects. Estimate is 6 hours to completion for me, so hope there still are some left when this is completed.
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Message 16489 - Posted: 9 Mar 2007, 7:29:36 UTC - in response to Message 16457.  

... I connect 13 projects ... Usually have work from 7 or 8 of them at any given time :)

As stated above, if you want your machine constantly working and connected to only one project, then connect to something like SETI or ClimatePrediction that has enough work to last for years.

When supporting projects that have intermittent work then you'll want to connect to several of them so that you are giving your unused resources to work that is needed while you wait on the one you really like.


If all 13 of your projects are intermittent, I would still suggest using a 'constant' project as a final backstop - tho with 13 projects I guess the law of averages is on your side!

SETI, Rosetta, or Einstein are good projects to use as a final backstop as they almost alway have work, and have manageable sized work units.

Re CPDN, it is a great project if you really want to run it, please do - we all need the scientists to get as good info as possible on climate change and CPDN is one part of that effort. I'd recommend it to anyone with a suitable machine.

CPDN is a great project to run alongside LHC, or other projects where the amount of work is very low. I do this, and in effect CPDN gets over 90% of the time as LHC does not have enough work to do its allotted share. That works well.

I would advise *against* using CPDN as a backstop alongside a large number of other projects. The test is to use the rate of trickles to see if CPDN can finish in 75% of its remaining deadline - if it can't then up its resource share till it can. If you don't want CPDN to have that big a share, set 'no new work' and don't run it at all when the current work unit runs out.

The reason is that if CPDN gets close to its deadline (and close is in comparison to the tine left to run) then BOINC starts to prioritise it, meaning that BOINC refuses to check for work on LHC for weeks at a time.

In short: run CPDN if you are happy to give it sufficient resource share, and not otherwise.

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PS - today there was work on the server for a couple of hours from before 0200 to after 0400 UTC, though some people had problems connecting. 3 out of my 10 boxes got work. As far as I am concerned it shows again that the 'set it and leave it' strategy works. I live in the UTC time zone, and at 0300 this morning I was more interested in sleep than in LHC, but it all happened for me.

Sweet dreams!
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Message 16490 - Posted: 9 Mar 2007, 7:29:51 UTC - in response to Message 16457.  

LHC isn't the only one that has droughts. I connect 13 projects ... Usually have work from 7 or 8 of them at any given time :)

As stated above, if you want your machine constantly working and connected to only one project, then connect to something like SETI or ClimatePrediction that has enough work to last for years.

When supporting projects that have intermittent work then you'll want to connect to several of them so that you are giving your unused resources to work that is needed while you wait on the one you really like.


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Message 16496 - Posted: 9 Mar 2007, 8:59:12 UTC - in response to Message 16489.  

SETI, Rosetta, or Einstein are good projects to use as a final backstop as they almost alway have work, and have manageable sized work units.

With Rosetta, the users (us) sets the length of the WUs. Very cool.
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Message 16584 - Posted: 20 Mar 2007, 21:17:08 UTC
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Hi all: Could we get a new status report since it is now 2 weeks after the last one. Thanks Mark Reiss

P.S. How is the beta LHC coming along?

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Message 16619 - Posted: 25 Mar 2007, 18:41:38 UTC

An update can be found here.
With thanks to Neasan for the update, and sorry to hear it is progressing bit more slowly than he would have liked (too).
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Message 16690 - Posted: 11 Apr 2007, 2:06:12 UTC

We really need some work to do. After 7 years on dial-up Internet was finally able to get a DSL connection in my area and now I can really sent back data if we are given a chance to compute it. Can we get some more computer experts in to set-up your machines and at least get a count of where we all stand as far as completed credits are concerned.

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