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Send message Joined: 1 Sep 04 Posts: 137 Credit: 1,769,043 RAC: 1 |
Well thanks to the discussion I started on the developer mailing list, BOINC now has a feature for members of teams with inactive founders to request the foundership and have it transfered to them without admin intervention. However LHC will have to update their php code and their database tables before this feature will become available. This almost certainly won't happen until the move to QMC in January. You've waited this long... whats another month? :) - A member of The Knights Who Say NI! My BOINC stats site |
 Send message Joined: 14 Jul 05 Posts: 275 Credit: 49,291 RAC: 0 
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Well thanks to the discussion I started on the developer mailing list, BOINC now has a feature for members of teams with inactive founders to request the foundership and have it transfered to them without admin intervention. However LHC will have to update their php code and their database tables before this feature will become available. This almost certainly won't happen until the move to QMC in January. You've waited this long... whats another month? :) That was a recent change, and LHC is missing modifications from months ago - maybe even a year. Lots of things changed, wouldn't be easy to upgrade, I doubt they will do it soon. |
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Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 456 Credit: 75,142 RAC: 0 |
... BOINC now has a feature for members of teams with inactive founders to request the foundership and have it transfered to them without admin intervention. However LHC will have to update their php code and their database tables ... Yes, the issue is that Chrulle tweaked the server code to provide variable deadlines, so that urgent work could be run ahead of routine work. The project do not want to discard that new code of Chrulle's, and that means it is not as simple as installing the udgraded server from the install files. |
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Send message Joined: 14 Jul 05 Posts: 275 Credit: 49,291 RAC: 0
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... BOINC now has a feature for members of teams with inactive founders to request the foundership and have it transfered to them without admin intervention. However LHC will have to update their php code and their database tables ... How to avoid this in the future: make modifications on the code downloaded from CVS. Running cvs update on that directory later will merge server changes with local changes when required. EDIT: waaait a minute... variable deadlines? Why does that need server tweaks? Different deadlines can be set to *each workunit* since I started looking at server stuff... |
 Conan Send message Joined: 6 Jul 06 Posts: 108 Credit: 663,175 RAC: 0 |
> Thanks for the feedback guys, I can wait another month or two. |
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Send message Joined: 1 Sep 04 Posts: 137 Credit: 1,769,043 RAC: 1 |
Well it sounds like QMC is setting up a brand new server so hopefully they will start from scratch and use the latest boinc source code and then port whatever customizations LHC has to the new code. I don't think the variable deadline change will be a problem in this process. Especially for the php code that runs the website which is what we are talking about here. All it requires is a change to the team table and an update of the php files. - A member of The Knights Who Say NI! My BOINC stats site |
 Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 165 Credit: 146,925 RAC: 0 |
... BOINC now has a feature for members of teams with inactive founders to request the foundership and have it transfered to them without admin intervention. However LHC will have to update their php code and their database tables ... I believe that work that was never returned gets a shorter deadline when re-issued.   BOINC WIKI |
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Send message Joined: 14 Jul 05 Posts: 275 Credit: 49,291 RAC: 0
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EDIT: waaait a minute... variable deadlines? Why does that need server tweaks? Different deadlines can be set to *each workunit* since I started looking at server stuff... That's currently an official feature as well. |
Krunchin-Keith [USA] Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 209 Credit: 1,482,496 RAC: 0 |
Well thanks to the discussion I started on the developer mailing list, BOINC now has a feature for members of teams with inactive founders to request the foundership and have it transfered to them without admin intervention. However LHC will have to update their php code and their database tables before this feature will become available. This almost certainly won't happen until the move to QMC in January. You've waited this long... whats another month? :) Do any projects have this modification yet and where did they hide it ? I've been looking (on other projects, not here) but have not seen it anywhere yet... |
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Send message Joined: 14 Jul 05 Posts: 275 Credit: 49,291 RAC: 0
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Well thanks to the discussion I started on the developer mailing list, BOINC now has a feature for members of teams with inactive founders to request the foundership and have it transfered to them without admin intervention. However LHC will have to update their php code and their database tables before this feature will become available. This almost certainly won't happen until the move to QMC in January. You've waited this long... whats another month? :) Renderfarm has it. |
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Send message Joined: 1 Sep 04 Posts: 137 Credit: 1,769,043 RAC: 1 |
seti has it as well. It only shows up if the team founder is inactive. Not sure what they used to determine activity but probably RAC dropping below a certain level or something like that. I haven't reviewed the code but if I'm remembering the discussion correctly, when you make use of the feature it sends both you and the founder an email. If the founder doesn't respond and you do then it will transfer the team to you after some number of days (a month or two I think). - A member of The Knights Who Say NI! My BOINC stats site |
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Conan Send message Joined: 6 Jul 06 Posts: 108 Credit: 663,175 RAC: 0 |
To the SysAdmin/Moderator or just a person with the nessecary power. Time to bump this up. Whilst you are working on the database, web page and such could you also have a look at this 200+ day old request of mine please. I am still looking at being this teams founder as I am still the only active member (the only member seeing as the Founder passed away). Thanks again for your time in this matter. |
Neasan Send message Joined: 30 Nov 06 Posts: 234 Credit: 11,078 RAC: 0 |
After a cursory glance it seems that only a teams founder can do that easily but I will look into it some more. |
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Grizz Send message Joined: 3 Dec 05 Posts: 6 Credit: 14,892 RAC: 0 |
Could you please include me on this request for Canada. Our founder has been inactive for some time on all projects and we have not got any replies to our emails which we have been trying for a few months now. Check out the forum for Canada the #1 Canadian team.  
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Send message Joined: 1 Sep 04 Posts: 137 Credit: 1,769,043 RAC: 1 |
Neasan, You must not be running an up to date php codebase. The BOINC web code has had a feature in it for several months now that allows a team member to request foundership if the founder is inactive. It sends an email to the founder asking them to respond within 60 (or was it 90?) days and if no response is received then the original requester can take over foundership. Any chance you could install this update? The Knights Who Say Ni! could use a new founder as well. Haven't seen F-12 Pilot online in serveral months now. - A member of The Knights Who Say NI! My BOINC stats site |
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Grizz Send message Joined: 3 Dec 05 Posts: 6 Credit: 14,892 RAC: 0 |
Neasan, You must not be running an up to date php codebase. The BOINC web code has had a feature in it for several months now that allows a team member to request foundership if the founder is inactive. It sends an email to the founder asking them to respond within 60 (or was it 90?) days and if no response is received then the original requester can take over foundership. All the projects I transfered on it was 60 days. Check out the forum for Canada the #1 Canadian team.
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Bird-Dog Send message Joined: 16 Dec 05 Posts: 18 Credit: 1,525,497 RAC: 0
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Could you please include me on this request for Canada. Our founder has been inactive for some time on all projects and we have not got any replies to our emails which we have been trying for a few months now. Is this team Canada the one. It has a recruitment thread over at SETI. Pawly took it over some time ago. |
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Grizz Send message Joined: 3 Dec 05 Posts: 6 Credit: 14,892 RAC: 0 |
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Conan Send message Joined: 6 Jul 06 Posts: 108 Credit: 663,175 RAC: 0 |
After a cursory glance it seems that only a teams founder can do that easily but I will look into it some more. Thanks Neasan, much appreciated. |
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Krunchin-Keith [USA] Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 209 Credit: 1,482,496 RAC: 0 |
Team USA also wishes too see this function added. The code allows another member to make an automatic request to become founder, without having to keep asking for the admin to intervene and make manual changes, email is sent to founder automatically, if the current founder does not respond within 60 days (approved or denied), the requester can then complete the transfer and become founder. This is useful when the founder goes missing and is not contactable, either just gives up boinc or maybe is deceased. I've been waiting since september 2005 for this to appear here, another 60 days wait won't matter. |
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