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Message 13586 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 21:29:54 UTC


Greetings: O.K., according to the front page...
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Up, 16178 workunits to crunch
66315 workunits in progress
43 concurrent connections

So why am I not getting any work units? I'm crunching SETI@home and Einstein@home with no problem, but no work units from LHC@home. Am I missing something here?
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Message 13587 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 21:45:52 UTC - in response to Message 13586.  


Greetings: O.K., according to the front page...
Server Status

Up, 16178 workunits to crunch
66315 workunits in progress
43 concurrent connections

So why am I not getting any work units? I'm crunching SETI@home and Einstein@home with no problem, but no work units from LHC@home. Am I missing something here?


Post something from your message log - that might give us a clue.

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Message 13588 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 22:26:53 UTC


Thankyou for replying Mike. I will include messages. But one of my problems is that I run an Athlon 64 4400x2 dual core processor and I have SETI and Einstein and LHC set on 100 for resources used. Maybe I should be using another setting because I am trying to run three projects on two cores.
Here are the messages. Most of LHC is at the bottom.
I hope that you can make something of this info, and I sincerely thank you for putting up with my lack of knowledge as a beginner. Best regards.

5/12/2006 6:12:12 PM||Processor: 2 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+
5/12/2006 6:12:12 PM||Memory: 2.00 GB physical, 3.87 GB virtual
5/12/2006 6:12:12 PM||Disk: 149.05 GB total, 128.94 GB free
5/12/2006 6:12:12 PM|Einstein@Home|Computer ID: 627091; location: home; project prefs: default
5/12/2006 6:12:12 PM|LHC@home|Computer ID: 159177; location: ; project prefs: default
5/12/2006 6:12:12 PM|SETI@home|Computer ID: 2402020; location: ; project prefs: default
5/12/2006 6:12:12 PM||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2006-05-10 19:20:42)
5/12/2006 6:12:12 PM||General prefs: using your defaults
5/12/2006 6:12:13 PM||Remote control not allowed; using loopback address
5/12/2006 6:12:13 PM|Einstein@Home|Deferring computation for result r1_1207.0__106_S4R2a_1
5/12/2006 6:12:13 PM|Einstein@Home|Deferring computation for result r1_1207.0__104_S4R2a_1
5/12/2006 6:12:13 PM|SETI@home|Deferring computation for result 25fe99aa.2994.20994.292318.1.39_3
5/12/2006 6:12:13 PM|SETI@home|Resuming computation for result 30mr99ab.3364.5664.1034646.1.255_3 using setiathome version 418
5/12/2006 6:12:13 PM|SETI@home|Resuming computation for result 25fe99aa.2994.22690.29846.1.112_2 using setiathome version 418
5/12/2006 6:12:13 PM|Einstein@Home|Restarting result r1_1207.0__106_S4R2a_1 using albert version 437
5/12/2006 6:12:13 PM|Einstein@Home|Restarting result r1_1207.0__104_S4R2a_1 using albert version 437
5/12/2006 6:12:13 PM|SETI@home|Pausing result 30mr99ab.3364.5664.1034646.1.255_3 (removed from memory)
5/12/2006 6:12:13 PM|SETI@home|Pausing result 25fe99aa.2994.22690.29846.1.112_2 (removed from memory)
5/12/2006 6:12:14 PM||request_reschedule_cpus: process exited
5/12/2006 6:12:36 PM||request_reschedule_cpus: project op
5/12/2006 6:12:38 PM|LHC@home|Sending scheduler request to http://lhcathome-sched1.cern.ch/scheduler/cgi
5/12/2006 6:12:38 PM|LHC@home|Reason: Requested by user
5/12/2006 6:12:38 PM|LHC@home|Note: not requesting new work or reporting results
5/12/2006 6:12:43 PM|LHC@home|Scheduler request to http://lhcathome-sched1.cern.ch/scheduler/cgi succeeded
5/12/2006 6:12:52 PM|LHC@home|Resetting project
5/12/2006 6:12:52 PM||request_reschedule_cpus: exit_tasks
5/12/2006 6:12:52 PM||request_reschedule_cpus: project op
5/12/2006 6:16:02 PM||request_reschedule_cpus: project op
5/12/2006 6:16:03 PM|LHC@home|Sending scheduler request to http://lhcathome-sched1.cern.ch/scheduler/cgi
5/12/2006 6:16:03 PM|LHC@home|Reason: Requested by user
5/12/2006 6:16:03 PM|LHC@home|Note: not requesting new work or reporting results
5/12/2006 6:16:08 PM|LHC@home|Scheduler request to http://lhcathome-sched1.cern.ch/scheduler/cgi succeeded
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Message 13589 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 22:45:36 UTC

Looking at your account info you hav`nt got a computer connected to LHC.
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Message 13590 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 23:19:54 UTC

Thankyou for the info Mike, but I went through the attachment process and it says that I am attached to the project, so I don't understand why it says that I don't have a computer connected to it.
I must be doing something wrong, or I've missed doing something I should have done, or there must be a bug in the system somewhere. I am at a lose as to what to do. Any other suggestions will be much appreciated. Well, at least SETI and Einstein are running and crunching.

Best regards to you Mike,
Rob




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Message 13591 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 23:48:41 UTC
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Rob, do you by any chance have no new work enabled?
From the log it looked like you connected to the site but was not asking for work.

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Message 13592 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 0:10:14 UTC

It could be that your BOINC client is working off some long term debt on another project first. Without seeing your client_state.xml file I can't really tell. An idea is to go to your projects tab and suspend SETI and Einstein, then select LHC and Update to see what happens.

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Message 13593 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 1:42:12 UTC


I'd like to say "Thanks" to all you, Mike, Travis, Trulayne, and Bird Dog, for your replys and help. Sometimes being a Newby isn't easy and can be frustrating for everyone.
I took the suggestion to disable SETI and Einstein and then do and update for LHC. Work units were finally downloaded to me from LHC. So now I can crunch data for LHC.
However, LHC still has no info on my computer. That's a little weird. But perhaps that will be listed when I send my first results in. I'll have to do some searches in the forums to see if there are still a few bugs in the system, and see what problems that others have had. However, I also realize that I have some learning to do. As soon as I get the time. (Life is hectic, must slow down.)
Many thanks again for all your help.
Best regards, Rob
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Message 13598 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 10:40:49 UTC - in response to Message 13588.  

Here are the messages. Most of LHC is at the bottom.
5/12/2006 6:12:12 PM|LHC@home|Computer ID: 159177; location: ; project prefs: default

However, LHC still has no info on my computer

You are posting under the account ID of Robert Charles Williamson while your host is linked to the account of Robert Williamson.
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Message 13605 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 16:41:51 UTC


Thankyou Thierry: I updated my account to Robert Williamson, took my middle name Charles out. But it still shows no computer like the host I.D. Robert Williamson does. Now I am feeling pretty stupid being a beginner at this.
Any idea what I have to do to fix that?

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Message 13606 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 16:49:17 UTC

I think the best thing is to detach and start again. I assume that the Robert Williamson account is not yours. Maybe you should detach, create a new account under a name that has no confusion - RC Williamson, or perhaps, Williamson-the-Destroyer maybe? ;)

Make sure the email address you use matches exactly (case sensitive!) the email address you use elesewhere so that your cross-project ID ties up properly.

Then reattach with the new account credentials. You'll lose a small amount of credit associated with your defunct account, but hey - you're not getting it anyway!



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Message 13607 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 16:56:15 UTC


Well, I have discovered something else. Although I am now crunching for LHC, my BOINC Manager shows 0 resource share, although I have all three projects entered at 100. And LHC shows no work units done although I have already sent some in, and they send me more.
I guess that I have two accounts somehow, and can only access one when I enter into my account at LHC and it is the one that shows no action or computer for me. Don't know how to fix this. Once this is all cleared up, I'll have to buy you guys a beer, or two, or three.

Best regards, and thanks, Rob
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Message 13608 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 17:30:34 UTC


O.K., this is what I tried. I detached, and re-entered under existing account Robert Wiiliamson with same e-mail address and password. It looks like that got rid of the Robert Charles Williamson account. There is now a computer listed and everything else seems to be o.k.
And now LHC says it has no work, so it looks like I'll have to wait for the next time to get any work.
Well, at least I was able to do several work units, and get them uploaded, even if I didn't get any credits for it.
From what I have been able to find out, sometimes there is a long wait for available work from LHC. I hope there will be more, and that I will be able to contribute again.
My sincere thanks to all fo you who have had patience to help out a person who is new to this and learning, while making a few mistakes.
Best regardes to all, Rob
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Message 13609 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 19:52:54 UTC - in response to Message 13608.  
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From what I have been able to find out, sometimes there is a long wait for available work from LHC. I hope there will be more, and that I will be able to contribute again.


There is a long wait sometimes - sometimes it's only a day or two. Unfortunately there's no rhyme or reason to this. Even the LHC administrators (although there aren't any at present) don't know when there will be work.

The work is submitted by a physicist in Canada, through an automated system, so it's sometimes difficult to get a clear idea of when work is available.

Meanwhile, do the best thing: crunch something else!

Happy crunching!



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Message 13618 - Posted: 14 May 2006, 16:51:52 UTC - in response to Message 13589.  

Looking at your account info you hav`nt got a computer connected to LHC.


He has to have a computer connected he has a message log. It wont show until he returns a result.




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Message 13974 - Posted: 13 Jun 2006, 19:42:53 UTC - in response to Message 13972.  

Yeh i cant get any work either:

Haven't you read the other messages? Try. Maybe you'll learn something... ;)
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Message 14014 - Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 10:58:22 UTC
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there's something to do _now_

let's go!

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Up, 10012 workunits to crunch
36236 workunits in progress
48 concurrent connections

oh, and even more...

Up, 24478 workunits to crunch
37110 workunits in progress
47 concurrent connections

like that...
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Message 14016 - Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 15:46:35 UTC

Woooohaaa!

Turn on your machines (or switch them back)!!!
Linux Users Everywhere @ BOINC
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Message 14253 - Posted: 7 Jul 2006, 9:01:40 UTC
Last modified: 7 Jul 2006, 9:30:33 UTC

I´m also new member.Why no work for me?
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07.07.2006 10:59:41|LHC@home|Sending scheduler request to http://lhcathome-sched1.cern.ch/scheduler/cgi
07.07.2006 10:59:41|LHC@home|Reason: To fetch work
07.07.2006 10:59:41|LHC@home|Requesting 17280 seconds of new work
07.07.2006 10:59:46|LHC@home|Scheduler request succeeded
07.07.2006 10:59:46|LHC@home|No work from project
07.07.2006 10:59:46|LHC@home|Deferring scheduler requests for 1 minutes and 0 seconds


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Message 14257 - Posted: 7 Jul 2006, 10:04:16 UTC

Same reason as many others have no work. LHC issues work in small amounts irreguarly. It can be weeks between having work but thats just part of the project.
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