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Message 13595 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 3:50:58 UTC - in response to Message 13594.  

It is not that the admin do not care, but very often they know that there are new WU exactly the same way you do. By the number going up on the frontpage. The submission system is completely automated and the physicist that is submitting most of the work is in Canada. So even if he remembers to send an email saying he is putting up more work, the admins will probably have gone home. You should also remember that there is no full time admin at the moment.

But summer is soon here, so a bunch of summerstudents will be arriving soon. I am sure one of them will be put to work on the Boinc system, and will have some spare time to do some sys-admining.



Chrulle, any chance of asking the physicist to drop by the forums to give us an update every-now-and-then?

Paul.


Why? If there is work, it will be downloaded and processed in a few days either way. Not everone checks the forum every day, week, or month

Setting "no new work" just means more for the rest of us. "You snooze, you lose"

I find that LHC has new work when I see some in my queue, and that seems to be exactly the way BOINC was designed! People seem to dislike weeks of "no work from project" in their logs, but for a project like LHC, that's reality.

What's being asked for is a project to post when work is available, so that those who can't "just wait", can all re-activae the project. Those who decided to "just wait", might not be given the work they should be entitled to, as vultures swarm in...

Hey.. Understand, this is the way that BOINC was designed - to NOT require a post from the project like LHC when work becomes available.

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Message 13597 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 10:24:54 UTC

Perhaps we could talk the project adminstators into including a 24 hour delay with a no new work message. That way you would get fewer messages in the log but still be able to get work within 24 hours of it's release.
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Message 13602 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 16:21:20 UTC

I'm not sure I see the reason why the "no new work from..." messages in the log are an issue. Are you looking for an option to not report messages in the log? Do you parse or save your logs? Personally the current system works.. and as they say here in America "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
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Message 13610 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 21:31:09 UTC - in response to Message 13595.  

It is not that the admin do not care, but very often they know that there are new WU exactly the same way you do. By the number going up on the frontpage. The submission system is completely automated and the physicist that is submitting most of the work is in Canada. So even if he remembers to send an email saying he is putting up more work, the admins will probably have gone home. You should also remember that there is no full time admin at the moment.

But summer is soon here, so a bunch of summerstudents will be arriving soon. I am sure one of them will be put to work on the Boinc system, and will have some spare time to do some sys-admining.



Chrulle, any chance of asking the physicist to drop by the forums to give us an update every-now-and-then?

Paul.


Why? If there is work, it will be downloaded and processed in a few days either way. Not everone checks the forum every day, week, or month

Setting "no new work" just means more for the rest of us. "You snooze, you lose"

I find that LHC has new work when I see some in my queue, and that seems to be exactly the way BOINC was designed! People seem to dislike weeks of "no work from project" in their logs, but for a project like LHC, that's reality.

What's being asked for is a project to post when work is available, so that those who can't "just wait", can all re-activae the project. Those who decided to "just wait", might not be given the work they should be entitled to, as vultures swarm in...

Hey.. Understand, this is the way that BOINC was designed - to NOT require a post from the project like LHC when work becomes available.

OK, I've been around BOINC long enough to KNOW how it works, you should know that azwoody. All I'm asking is that we get an update from the project people on the status of what is happening with the LHC@Home project if there has been no work for a while. Things like, will there be new work and in the expected time frame. It's just a courtesy that I'd like to think we could get from a professional crew who treat their volunteers like assets and not the commodity that we really are, is all!

Live long and crunch.

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Message 13612 - Posted: 14 May 2006, 5:02:41 UTC - in response to Message 13610.  

It is not that the admin do not care, but very often they know that there are new WU exactly the same way you do. By the number going up on the frontpage. The submission system is completely automated and the physicist that is submitting most of the work is in Canada. So even if he remembers to send an email saying he is putting up more work, the admins will probably have gone home. You should also remember that there is no full time admin at the moment.

But summer is soon here, so a bunch of summerstudents will be arriving soon. I am sure one of them will be put to work on the Boinc system, and will have some spare time to do some sys-admining.




OK, I've been around BOINC long enough to KNOW how it works, you should know that azwoody. All I'm asking is that we get an update from the project people on the status of what is happening with the LHC@Home project if there has been no work for a while. Things like, will there be new work and in the expected time frame. It's just a courtesy that I'd like to think we could get from a professional crew who treat their volunteers like assets and not the commodity that we really are, is all!

Live long and crunch.


And if that answer is unknown what message would you like them post?

Reading through the website the LHC@Home project is only one facet of the computational solutions available to the CERN scientists, ie just one of many resources to be exploited.
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