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I have two WU's that are still pending. They appear to have finished OK. All the other results associated with the WU's have been processed correctly, their credit granted if they were OK or an error message if they were late or failed but mine are still pending. URL's follow:

http://lhcathome.cern.ch/result.php?resultid=6512074
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/result.php?resultid=6512097

Any ideas, I have stumbled across a brand new Noble Prize-winning bug :) :) :)

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Still pending :-(

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There is a known bug in the deleter that deletes results once a quorum has been reached, even if there are outstanding results still to come in, and even if the deadline has not yet been reached. Results affected by this will always be the last results to come back, and never get credit granted.

There is a fixed deleter running on the Alpha test platform, but it makes substantially more demands on the server hardware, and consequently it hasn't yet been rolled out to the production platform.

The "vocal guy from Belgium" has a different problem: one machine seems to have had every result left at pending. There was a database crash in January that might be responsible, or there may be some as yet unidentified fault with that machine.

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Gaspode the UnDressed
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Still pending !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Still pending !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I find it weird, I must admit, that some people are so desperate to get the last result in (in the totally mistaken belief they'll get extra credit for it - BOINC doesn't work that way, children) that they'll deliberately delay the end of a project by weeks.

I think you think you you know what other people think. I think your a fool but that doesn't make me right and it won't change the way you think - I think.

So I'll tell it to you like your a four year old. There is a problem with the project, I still have pending credits. Will this problem be rectified and can the moderator put an age check on sQuonk, I don't think he's old enough to be left alone on a computer 8-)

Can I have my credits now? And while your at it, add two hundred in intrest!

Any ideas, I have stumbled across a brand new Noble Prize-winning bug :) :) :)

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I think you think you you know what other people think. I think your a fool but that doesn't make me right and it won't change the way you think - I think.

So I'll tell it to you like your a four year old. There is a problem with the project, I still have pending credits. Will this problem be rectified and can the moderator put an age check on sQuonk, I don't think he's old enough to be left alone on a computer 8-)

Can I have my credits now? And while your at it, add two hundred in intrest!

Is this really necessary? Maybe we should just ban Australians if this is their attitude.

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Gaspode the UnDressed
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Mitch, I believe that the fool is not that which you believe....
If you don't upload your units in times, you will NEVER have your credit which are attached there. Either you cancelled them and returned as it was still time, or you make your mourning and you pass to next one!
For the interests, I have pity of you.

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I've notice something else with this bug. The WU's with Pending status are holding up the deleting of the remaining results for other users. See my results and follow to the other users.

[edit]I ment to add the details. Click the hyperlink > WUID 999470 > CID 80964 (pending) > Results 216 > 215 pending results and one at zero Granted Credit![/edit]

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http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=670237

Wait from 06.10.2005!!! :-)

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http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=670237

Wait from 06.10.2005!!! :-)

Yeah (sigh), that's the same bug. So it's been around for about six months.
Damn, I thought I found it first :-(

I thought we were out off beta testing ;-) (I had to check before I wrote that).

@ sQuonk

I know some really nice Aussies who can spell and don't assume only males use a computer :P

As it happens, I know a very lovely French, opps, I mean Parisian Lady. Or I did for 15 years, she's back in Paris now :-( Talk about your high maintenance friends. She had no trouble spelling, just needed me to translate her accent, annoyed her no end. I thought it was cute but that only made things worse.

If there is anything wrong with my spelling, blame Bill Gates, I run it through MS Word first (Natalie used to help me with my spelling, but no more).

Funny you should mention "don't assume only males", I've heard that from a number of different places. That, and we don't assume monoculture.

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Here are two more are still living in the database:

http://lhcathome.cern.ch/result.php?resultid=3407702 since 4 Oct 2005
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/result.php?resultid=5686836 since 31 Jan 2006

When time passed by, they became good friends of mine. Every time I had a look for results, they were there. Even in the time of drought, when no workunits were available, they stay aside.
So please, don't kill them! Keep my old friends alive ;-)

Happy crunching

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I have one even older pending WU:
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=371751
It's there since Jul 2005

Any way to clear this so I can delete the machine?

3667838 708923 4 Oct 2005 19:56:30 UTC 11 Oct 2005 5:23:59 UTC Over Success Done 261,804.04 105.35 73.89

Thanx, Skip

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Any way to clear this so I can delete the machine?

3667838 708923 4 Oct 2005 19:56:30 UTC 11 Oct 2005 5:23:59 UTC Over Success Done 261,804.04 105.35 73.89

Thanx, Skip

I don't think there's been any change made for this problem.

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Six results still pending here.........

http://lhcathome.cern.ch/result.php?resultid=2042810
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/result.php?resultid=2518888
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/result.php?resultid=4614115
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/result.php?resultid=5624485
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/result.php?resultid=6029764
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/result.php?resultid=6377238

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It is well known that there are 'issues' with the LHC@Home database. They've been discussed endlessly in these boards. It is also well known that there was a database crash earlier this year that corrupted machine data, and maybe WU data too.

It has been said by the admin team that manually fixing these orphaned units will probably cause more problems than it fixes.

And lastly, it is also well known that there is no administrator in control of this system at present. Chrulle does a bit here and there, but he no longer works for CERN.

So, if you have a few old results kicking around please accept them gracefully - there won't be a solution along any time soon.

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Gaspode the UnDressed
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