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Host 107106 trying to cheat?
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Send message Joined: 26 Sep 05 Posts: 85 Credit: 421,130 RAC: 0  
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In my pending credits, I noticed this WU... http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1158626 The host above is showing crunch times not in sync with the other 2 hosts that have returned results thus far 5979076 60871 8 Feb 2006 23:37:54 UTC 16 Feb 2006 10:44:44 UTC In Progress Unknown New --- --- --- 5979077 107106 8 Feb 2006 23:37:35 UTC 9 Feb 2006 0:02:43 UTC Over Success Done 130.25 0.24 pending 5979078 95869 8 Feb 2006 23:36:50 UTC 9 Feb 2006 8:05:20 UTC Over Success Done 3,740.19 13.44 pending 5979079 102469 8 Feb 2006 23:37:58 UTC 16 Feb 2006 10:44:48 UTC In Progress Unknown New --- --- --- 5979080 106879 8 Feb 2006 23:37:48 UTC 9 Feb 2006 3:54:20 UTC Over Success Done 8,810.53 14.87 pending So, I looked in his host, and ALL OF HIS WUs for pages and pages show a claimed credit of < 1... http://lhcathome.cern.ch/results.php?hostid=107106 He's got 100 of these WUs, that are either pending, get low credit, or even 0.00 credits. http://lhcathome.cern.ch/show_host_detail.php?hostid=107106 Just looking through the first several, where his claimed credits are not in sync with other comps, are these WUs http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1143721 http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1129716 http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1129708 http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1180150 http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1180126 http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1179903 http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1179199 http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1179198 http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1178809 http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1177896 The one's that follow, it's obvious the validator penalized this host, but granted more obvious credit to all other hosts. In the above cases, no one has gotten credit yet... http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1179015 http://lhcathome.cern.ch/results.php?hostid=107106&offset=20 http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1178797 http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1177904 http://lhcathome.cern.ch/workunit.php?wuid=1176352 For quite a number of more pages this pattern continues, with 1 more side note. EVERY ONE of these 100 WUs, has a download date of February 9... 
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 Mr.Pernod Send message Joined: 16 Jul 05 Posts: 65 Credit: 369,728 RAC: 0 |
not sure what is going on with that machine. it's running linux, Boinc is reporting application version 4.66 for his results, but the stderr.out looks like he is trying to run 4.65 <core_client_version>5.2.13</core_client_version> maybe someone that's trying to use an app_info.xml on a project that doesn't have "alternate" versions of the science application? |
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Send message Joined: 27 Sep 04 Posts: 11 Credit: 156,184 RAC: 0 |
not sure what is going on with that machine. I have that message for my Linux computers and they are running 4.66 too. I promise I am not doing anything fishy. My work units are valid with 2.6 Linux kernels. This guy sure has a lot of invalid work units. I had a computer like that, an Athlon XP 2800+ with Windows XP and it never did valid work and I just gave up doing LHC with it. |
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Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 82 Credit: 6,336 RAC: 0 |
I think that his sustem is having problems, may be overclocked to much or something else. Most of his get marked as Invalid after going through the validator so I would not worry about it. But it would be good it the owner looked at it and corrected what is causing that. Ray  Pizza@Home - Rays Place - Rays place Forums |
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Send message Joined: 6 Aug 05 Posts: 2 Credit: 12,313 RAC: 0 |
Have a 3200+ on XP that refuses to complete a valid work unit, it just crunches for einstein and seti now. 
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Morgan the Gold Send message Joined: 18 Sep 04 Posts: 38 Credit: 173,867 RAC: 0 |
i have win 98 se machines that when running both predictor and lhc, if both projects have pre-empted work they will still add time to cpu time irregardless of which other project is actualy useing the cpu. this results in high credit claims 
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Send message Joined: 4 Sep 05 Posts: 112 Credit: 1,864,470 RAC: 0
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In my pending credits, I noticed this WU... What ever it was, it looks like it's been fixed now. He only has two results that I could find that gave him credit. One was the minamal amount and the other was half the minamal amount. Click here to join the #1 Aussie Alliance on LHC. |
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Send message Joined: 29 Sep 04 Posts: 196 Credit: 207,040 RAC: 0 |
Have a 3200+ on XP that refuses to complete a valid work unit, it just crunches for einstein and seti now. Winman- what's your motherboard & bios revision? AthlonXP 3200+ cpus do not overclock well at all (it's the 400mhz fsb that pushes it so hard) and some motherboards have been known to set the fsb a wee bit too high. My Biostar M7NCD mobo would cause the 3200+ to do weird things if it was set as high as 402mhz fsb. Another factor could be your ram which is also coupled to the fsb. Needless to say there was no OC potential with the 3200+ but man does it perform for a Socket-A cpu. 
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Magic Quantum Mechanic Send message Joined: 24 Oct 04 Posts: 1118 Credit: 49,726,920 RAC: 13,602 
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I have been running a 3200+ 64 w/XP Pro from the beginning and never had a problem running the old seti,Einstein,or LHC. (1gig ram) Volunteer Mad Scientist For Life |
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Send message Joined: 27 Sep 04 Posts: 102 Credit: 7,236,754 RAC: 5,682  
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i have win 98 se machines that when running both predictor and lhc, if both projects have pre-empted work they will still add time to cpu time irregardless of which other project is actualy useing the cpu. A known problem on Win98 boxes if you have "Leave in Memory" selected. Create a separate location for that box and uncheck that option.  
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