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 Paul D. BuckSend message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 545 Credit: 148,912 RAC: 0 |
For those that pointed out that LHC@Home does not have SETI@Home characteristics and components shoud be relieved to know that the server status page has been updated ... |
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Send message Joined: 3 Oct 04 Posts: 19 Credit: 46,312 RAC: 0 |
For those that pointed out that LHC@Home does not have SETI@Home characteristics and components shoud be relieved to know that the server status page has been updated ... Where is it??? There doesn't appear to be alink to any server status page from the Home page |
 Send message Joined: 18 Sep 04 Posts: 163 Credit: 1,682,370 RAC: 0 |
For those that pointed out that LHC@Home does not have SETI@Home characteristics and components shoud be relieved to know that the server status page has been updated ... The default page which comes with BOINC, I suppose. See there too. Michael Team Linux Users Everywhere 
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Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 545 Credit: 148,912 RAC: 0 |
Where is it??? There doesn't appear to be alink to any server status page from the Home page See, I have this bad habit of getting things from the Wiki ... where the link exists ...:) |
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Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 60 Credit: 4,221 RAC: 0 |
Where is it??? There doesn't appear to be alink to any server status page from the Home page Paul, your wiki is stuffed with great information. Everything there has a purpose, and there are also some interesting facts. However, I find it extremely difficult to navigate. YOU may get tons of info from the wiki, but if no one else can find it or has trouble doing so, all of that great information suddenly is not as useful. Please take my my criticism in a positive manor. If I had more expertise in the html field, I could offer some suggestions, but my knowledge is limited. |
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Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 545 Credit: 148,912 RAC: 0 |
Senatoralex, Not offended at all ... As soon as someone can tell me how to make the data more accessable I will jump on it like a shot ... :) the trouble is that all of us know what the problem is, but not a cure. But, some hints ... Start with the index page, is it a problem with the BOINC Manager? Try the BOINC Application Owner's Manual; is it related to the web site, try the Web Site Owner's Manual. Use the search, since it is a Google search you can use logical expressions and grouping with quotes. Look at the bottom of the pages, click on the category links, there you get an alphabetical list of all the pages in that category (this is the way we index the web site owner's manual). If it is a question on how to do something, there is a How-To section, your question starts with an error message, start with the messages section. Like all books, and encyclopedias, the more time you spend using it BEFORE you need it, the more likely you will find the answers. Read the FAQs for BOINC, and the projects ... the project FAQs are still slimmer than I would like ... but I cannot get people like you to send me questions that are not already there, that you would like an answer to ... It is your reference, tell me how to fix what you find broken ... A personal aside, this is the frustration that is currently feeding my depression... no matter how much I write, index, cross-reference, etc. my effort is ultimately futile as it rapidly ages, few are reading it anyway, etc. I don't need html help, the wiki engine does all that ... what I need are ideas on how to make what is there useful... and you are the perfect guy to help you can tell me what exactly did not work, and how it would have worked if only we had ... but, of course, that requires that you decide to help those that follow that know what you know ... |
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Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 60 Credit: 4,221 RAC: 0 |
Senatoralex, ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul, I will contact you by e mail........ |
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Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 60 Credit: 4,221 RAC: 0 |
[quote]Senatoralex, ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul, I definitely have a few suggestions. I need some time to think about the best way to put them. I have a test tomorrow in economic botany (yes, a biology major crunching for a physics project). Probably sometime friday I will e mail you with some suggestions. Basically, the information in the wiki is STELLAR, however the way it is presented on the homepage is overwhelming and confusing. More to come! Hopefully my suggestions will help! Thank you for being such an honest and open person. Not many people can take constructive criticism! Out of curiosity, how many hits on the wiki do you get on an average day? |
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Lee Carre Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 23 Credit: 22,567 RAC: 0 |
Out of curiosity, how many hits on the wiki do you get on an average day? just an idea to go in the "would be nice" category, how about a little "site stats" page (unless your host provides them publicly?) i'm sure the wiki will get thousands of hits when DC really takes off, it seems to be slowly at the moment, hearing more about it in non-DC circles, so chin up paul :) at least now you're a wiki expert (and probably a MySQL and PHP guru too), and it's a fantastic job you've done, it's not often you find someone so dedicated to doing a good and proper job with documentation :) in fact, on that note, if you have some free time, you might want to help out another wiki based site that is having MySQL troubles which keeps crashing the server, so the site may not be available all the time. The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - it's a site about a series of RPG games, but i thought the admin (dave) could benifit from your experience, as he's still quite new to the wiki system |
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Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 545 Credit: 148,912 RAC: 0 |
Surprisingly enough, there it a page, try the "Special Pages" link at the bottom of the nav panel, and "statistics, the current text is: "There are 3,271 total pages in the database. This includes "talk" pages, pages about BOINC-Wiki, minimal "stub" pages, redirects, and others that probably don't qualify as content pages. Excluding those, there are 1,207 pages that are probably legitimate content pages. There have been a total of 923,454 page views, and 10,037 page edits since the wiki was setup. That comes to 3.07 average edits per page, and 92.00 views per edit." According to the provisioner, about 2800-3200 unique visits a day; 3-5 pages per visit. Not sure how it counts what I do ... :) As far as taking suggestions, well, I learned in the USN that none of us has all the answers. And being a leader does not mean that you cannot be open to suggestions. Listening to your subordinates and actually taking their advice really pays off. If you don't take it, you can, but are not obligated to say why, but, just the active listening can really pay off. When I was a leader of leaders (E8 with E7 & E6 to command), when I would see a problem I would make a concept of what I wanted to happen, and a way to do that. Then I would call the chiefs in and tell them we had a problem and *MY* solution was to do "x", if they were Ok with that we moved on. If they weren't, well, I solicted input. If they suggested we do "y" I was Ok with that ... but, then they had to make "y" get the results required or we went to my plan "x" or something similar ... My one objection to much of what happens in the BOINC world is that this principle seems to be regularly violated by those that want to exercise power and control without the recognition that they may have the power, but never really will have the control. Worse, that the very micromanagement itself causes problems, like the loss of the big picture. In the Wiki, as a contrary example, if you look at the history of the front page you can see that a lot of us had our fingers into that pie. The editors and I "talk" quite a bit, and I try to visit all the changed pages and maybe do a little more "touch up" ... |
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Lee Carre Send message Joined: 13 Jul 05 Posts: 23 Credit: 22,567 RAC: 0 |
Surprisingly enough, there it a page, try the "Special Pages" link at the bottom of the nav panel, and "statistics i found that one, it was good, just not really what i was after According to the provisioner, about 2800-3200 unique visits a day; 3-5 pages per visit.this is more of what i was thinking of, statistics about the site, rather than the content, it's sort of "pointless" i know, but it's interesting to see how busy a site is as for the "suggestion process", sounds great, i just wish more companies/organisations would adopt that "model" of working, in all the companies i've worked for, the majority of managers are only interested in "plan x" and don't even want to hear any potential time/effort saving ideas from the staff "in the field" which would make a job quicker and actually save them money, sad really, so i know exactly what you mean about poeple being "power hungry" |
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Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 2 Sep 04 Posts: 545 Credit: 148,912 RAC: 0 |
Lee, Those numbers have held steady for most of the Wiki's life. There are also pages in "Special" for example that list the populatity. Of course I have the problem that pages that have little content or are poorly written tend to have low use. So, I depend on user input if I can get it ... of my gut call. For example, I did a lot of work on a FAQ for SETI@Home and the Web Site Owner's Manual ... neither developed much traffic. So, though I add material there on occassion, the original FAQ ran about 24 hits per question ... With others running into hundreds for the same period ... well ... what was the point? So, you can see the page hit counters ... but the unique visits and pages per visit (about 5) I have to get from the provisioner 1&1 using their log tools. In general, I rarely look as there is not much I can do with the information. And, for content matters the Wiki reports are good enough for me to work with. So, if there is a question in the SETI@Home FAQ you want the answer to, ask and I will get the answer and add it in ... but if no one asks, no one cares ... :) |
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