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Message 11854 - Posted: 7 Jan 2006, 4:43:37 UTC

I feel greater efforts are needed to make students & teachers around the world aware of LHC@home. It still has very few members compared to SETI@home. I am pretty much sure that many more would like to join this project once they become aware of it. What do you say ?
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Message 11865 - Posted: 8 Jan 2006, 11:48:45 UTC - in response to Message 11854.  

I feel greater efforts are needed to make students & teachers around the world aware of LHC@home. It still has very few members compared to SETI@home. I am pretty much sure that many more would like to join this project once they become aware of it. What do you say ?


Hi Atanu.

I think you are right about the educational benefits of a lot of the boinc projects. I'm a physics teacher and I would love to get my students crunching. I'd be wary about getting them involved with Seti because of the nature of the boards over there, but I think I'll try and get my older students onto LHC and Einstein next week. Reading the science forums would be really good for them.

Also, I'll send out an email to the Physics teacher network and see how many of them have even heard of the project. :-)
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Message 11866 - Posted: 8 Jan 2006, 15:40:58 UTC - in response to Message 11865.  

I feel greater efforts are needed to make students & teachers around the world aware of LHC@home. It still has very few members compared to SETI@home. I am pretty much sure that many more would like to join this project once they become aware of it. What do you say ?


Hi Atanu.

I think you are right about the educational benefits of a lot of the boinc projects. I'm a physics teacher and I would love to get my students crunching. I'd be wary about getting them involved with Seti because of the nature of the boards over there, but I think I'll try and get my older students onto LHC and Einstein next week. Reading the science forums would be really good for them.

Also, I'll send out an email to the Physics teacher network and see how many of them have even heard of the project. :-)


I'd recommend Rosetta as well, it may not be physics but they are doing good science and their science boards are usually at a level most physics student will understand. And maybe recommending a biochem project as well as a couple of physics ones will make you seem more impartial ;-)

Also as a science teaching point the three projects demonstrate different contributions to the respective sciences. LHC is helping to design an experiment, Einstein is helping to sift the results looking of an experiment, and Rosetta is developing a new way to make predictions so is more about applying the theory than doing an experiment. All of three approaches being essential to the interplay between theory and experiment in any science.

Equally it is not just reading the boards that I think they will find attractive, but the chance to be involved in a small way in cutting edge science, whether it is particle physics, gravitational astronomy, or biochemistry.

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Message 11870 - Posted: 8 Jan 2006, 17:18:29 UTC - in response to Message 11866.  
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I'd recommend Rosetta as well, it may not be physics but they are doing good science and their science boards are usually at a level most physics student will understand. And maybe recommending a biochem project as well as a couple of physics ones will make you seem more impartial ;-)

Also as a science teaching point the three projects demonstrate different contributions to the respective sciences. LHC is helping to design an experiment, Einstein is helping to sift the results looking of an experiment, and Rosetta is developing a new way to make predictions so is more about applying the theory than doing an experiment. All of three approaches being essential to the interplay between theory and experiment in any science.

Equally it is not just reading the boards that I think they will find attractive, but the chance to be involved in a small way in cutting edge science, whether it is particle physics, gravitational astronomy, or biochemistry.

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Thanks River. You've made some interesting points here. I'll think about recommending Rosetta, but I my students might have a heart attack if I start recommending anything to do with biology! I never pretended to be impartial and with the chronic shortage of physics teachers and people taking up physics I think I can afford not to be. ;-)
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Message 11889 - Posted: 11 Jan 2006, 17:26:12 UTC

I also recomend rosetta. it is a nice project

personaly i run lots of projects to balance my work load and my intrest in them

attached is a list of what i am running

Rosetta@home <- love the support, this project works on optimizing the Rosetta code and help in the research to fight diseases (our prime choice ~ 50%)

Climateprediction.net <- goal to investigate the approximations that have to be made in state-of-the-art climate models improve our understanding of how sensitive our models are to small changes and also to things like changes in carbon dioxide and the sulphur cycle. To explore how climate may change in the next century under a wide range of different scenarios. In the past estimates of climate change have had to be made using one or, at best, a very small ensemble (tens rather than thousands!) of model runs. (~ 15%)

Predictor <- an effort to use distributed computing to predict protein structure from protein sequence and to test new algorithms and methods of protein structure prediction. This development and testing with applications to real biological targets. (~7%)


Einstein <- I love Sci-fi and outer space so searching for spinning neutron stars (or pulsars) using data from the LIGO and GEO gravitational wave detectors. Sounds nice so I also picked this project (~5%)

Primegrid <- always wanted to do some math factoring stuff. This project is a PerlBOINC testing project, trying to deal with RSA Factoring Challenge - trying to split the 193-digit number into two factors that multiplied form the original number. (~2%)

SZTAKI Desktop Grid <- currently searching for generalized binary number systems.
This program aims at finding many generalized binary number systems. These may be used in data compression, coding or cryptography. (~2%)

World Community Grid <- a further split under boinc that will run various scientific research. (~2%)

SIMAP <- a public database of pre-calculated protein similarities that plays a key role in many bioinformatics methods. containing about all currently published protein sequences and is continuously updated. SIMAP calculates protein similarities for biological research projects. (~2%)

Seti <- Neat graphics, The Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence. By using radio telescopes to listen for narrow-bandwidth radio signals from space. Such signals are not known to occur naturally, so a detection would provide evidence of extraterrestrial technology. I started with DC and like to continue to crunch the occasional work unit (~2%)

UFluids <- Space propulsion (pre-alpha project) so anyone taking part should expect a few problems a massively distributed computer simulation of two-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics problems. To design better satellite propellant management devices and address two-phase flow in microchannel and MEMS devices. (~2%)
The other 10% will probably be used by the other projects running or upcoming
LHC <- Large Hadron Collider. LHC@home helps the construction of LHC. It simulates how the particles travel trough the 27 km long tunnel. With the help of the calculated information, the magnets that control the beam can be calibrated with greater precision. Lots of time has no work.
BURP <- just like the name of it (pre-alpha project) BURP aims to develop a publicly distributed system for rendering 3D animations. (currently out of work)
Malaria control <- Africa @ home. Simulation models of the transmission dynamics and health effects of malaria are an important tool for malaria control. They can be used to determine optimal strategies for delivering mosquito nets, chemotherapy, or new vaccines currently under development and testing.

PlanetQuest <- will look for planets around other stars. Will analyze telescope data to detect the presence of planets around stars and to learn more about the stars. Project participants who discover planets will be credited with the discovery in the project's planet catalog. The project is currently in development and internal alpha testing
Orbit @ home <- will use the Orbit Reconstruction Simulation and Analysis (ORSA) framework "to monitor the impact hazard posed by Near Earth Objects pre alpha

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Message 11895 - Posted: 12 Jan 2006, 18:38:38 UTC

For a different kind of collaborative project, see this link - looking at microscope pix to find tiny pieces of stardust
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Message 11906 - Posted: 13 Jan 2006, 15:24:38 UTC - in response to Message 11889.  

I think one should not have too many projects running simultaneously because then there is a good chance that the computer would not be able to submit results in time and one would end up with less credit.
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Message 11908 - Posted: 13 Jan 2006, 17:58:53 UTC - in response to Message 11906.  

I think one should not have too many projects running simultaneously because then there is a good chance that the computer would not be able to submit results in time and one would end up with less credit.


This was true in the days of v4.19 and earlier.

Now, since about v4.45 the client is usually clever enough to only grab work it can complete in time. This means if you specify too many projects you will not see them all on your box at once, and the client will try to get the resource share right over a time comparable to the longest deadline of any project.

The way it does it is frequantly counter intuitive, so the updated advice is not to have too many porjects if you want to understand what the xxxx your client is up to! However, for those who are prepared to trust it, it usually gets it right on a single cpu box, but still occasionally gets it badly wrong on a multi-cpu box (inc Intel HT)

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Message 11987 - Posted: 14 Jan 2006, 22:28:01 UTC - in response to Message 11854.  
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I feel greater efforts are needed to make students & teachers around the world aware of LHC@home. It still has very few members compared to SETI@home. I am pretty much sure that many more would like to join this project once they become aware of it. What do you say ?


I'm working on a music CD which I have entitled "Riding the graviton"
I'll be sure to mention it.
I thank all of you for your inspiration.

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Message 12113 - Posted: 17 Jan 2006, 11:27:54 UTC - in response to Message 11854.  

I feel greater efforts are needed to make students & teachers around the world aware of LHC@home. It still has very few members compared to SETI@home. I am pretty much sure that many more would like to join this project once they become aware of it. What do you say ?


LHC@Home needs more work units first !!
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Message 12125 - Posted: 17 Jan 2006, 15:04:13 UTC - in response to Message 12113.  

LHC@Home needs more work units first !!


yesss! my preciouss work unitsss - don't ssshare them with anyone elssse
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Message 12242 - Posted: 21 Jan 2006, 23:54:59 UTC - in response to Message 11987.  

I feel greater efforts are needed to make students & teachers around the world aware of LHC@home. It still has very few members compared to SETI@home. I am pretty much sure that many more would like to join this project once they become aware of it. What do you say ?


I'm working on a music CD which I have entitled "Riding the graviton"
I'll be sure to mention it.
I thank all of you for your inspiration.

Ernie Solis
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You do that and i will buy it :D.

I feel greater efforts are needed to make students & teachers around the world aware of LHC@home. It still has very few members compared to SETI@home. I am pretty much sure that many more would like to join this project once they become aware of it. What do you say ?


Hell yeah. More publicity and work units

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Message 12244 - Posted: 22 Jan 2006, 1:20:05 UTC

Heh the rate that these WU's are being churned through, its not publicity that is needed, its more WU's! My pending credit keeps rising with the 8 machines I have running, but given that 2 weeks ago there were 500,000 WUs left and now only ~100000 it looks like we crunchers will go quicker than the scientists can!
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Message 12330 - Posted: 23 Jan 2006, 21:28:52 UTC
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This speaks for itself I think :-)


They have to spend a million credits per day, I hope they have a good amount of credits left ;-)

Popularity is growing - this is the first time they give out workunits since SETI Classic and Find A Drug closed the doors so I guess they can count on a good base of crunchers all the time from now on.
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Message 12958 - Posted: 7 Mar 2006, 9:52:36 UTC

even i feel it doesn't need more publicity as this will just get more people and there will be less work to crunch. the project was hardly up for 1-2 days and then again it went out of work so i think it could do with publicity if scientists could provide more work.
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Message 12997 - Posted: 12 Mar 2006, 19:20:48 UTC - in response to Message 12958.  

even i feel it doesn't need more publicity as this will just get more people and there will be less work to crunch. the project was hardly up for 1-2 days and then again it went out of work so i think it could do with publicity if scientists could provide more work.



My cd "Riding the graviton" is in the process, and I owe it to all
of you..... The crunchers of the planet earth.

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