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Message 11220 - Posted: 6 Nov 2005, 5:42:25 UTC

Ok, so I am new to LHC and have probably missed this, but why does the newest result I have received have a reporting deadline sooner than the one before?
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Message 11221 - Posted: 6 Nov 2005, 7:16:03 UTC - in response to Message 11220.  

Ok, so I am new to LHC and have probably missed this, but why does the newest result I have received have a reporting deadline sooner than the one before?




wnov1B_v6s4hvnom_mqx__2__64.274_59.294__8_10__6__15_1_sixvf_boinc58857
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wnov1A_v6s4hvnom_mqx__15__64.255_59.275__10_12__6__35_1_sixvf_boinc48950

I think in the boinc wiki, or in the FAQ, there's explanations as to what the different studies are.
http://boinc-doc.net/boinc-wiki/index.php?title=LHC%40Home_FAQ

Someone probably wanted the model to look at a certain set of parameters based on initial results of their study... so maybe the 1B study has a higher priority for the designers.

I'm not the LHC Alex. Just a number cruncher like everyone else here.
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Message 11222 - Posted: 6 Nov 2005, 8:29:24 UTC - in response to Message 11220.  

Ok, so I am new to LHC and have probably missed this, but why does the newest result I have received have a reporting deadline sooner than the one before?


The LHC scheduler has an optimiser built in that estimates the best deadline to get the studies done in the shortest overall time. The optimiser calculates deadlines on the fly based on return times, the number of computers available, and the size of the study (amongst other things).

It is quite possibe that the deadlines have shortened between downloads such that later units finish earlier than earlier ones.


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Message 11328 - Posted: 11 Nov 2005, 20:01:28 UTC - in response to Message 11222.  
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Ok, so I am new to LHC and have probably missed this, but why does the newest result I have received have a reporting deadline sooner than the one before?


The LHC scheduler has an optimiser built in that estimates the best deadline to get the studies done in the shortest overall time. The optimiser calculates deadlines on the fly based on return times, the number of computers available, and the size of the study (amongst other things).

It is quite possibe that the deadlines have shortened between downloads such that later units finish earlier than earlier ones.



That's all well and good however i am getting 4 and 5 day deadines to complete WU's and the scheduler is downloading far too many WU's to get them completed in time. The LHC@home scheduler does not seem to take in account the LHC@home project share of cpu time or the fact that I have 4 other Boinc projects running on my PC.

It looks like LHC@home will be getting suspended on my PC until we return to something even approaching a sensible deadline for complettion.



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Message 11331 - Posted: 11 Nov 2005, 21:54:11 UTC - in response to Message 11328.  

Ok, so I am new to LHC and have probably missed this, but why does the newest result I have received have a reporting deadline sooner than the one before?


The LHC scheduler has an optimiser built in that estimates the best deadline to get the studies done in the shortest overall time. The optimiser calculates deadlines on the fly based on return times, the number of computers available, and the size of the study (amongst other things).

It is quite possibe that the deadlines have shortened between downloads such that later units finish earlier than earlier ones.



That's all well and good however i am getting 4 and 5 day deadines to complete WU's and the scheduler is downloading far too many WU's to get them completed in time. The LHC@home scheduler does not seem to take in account the LHC@home project share of cpu time or the fact that I have 4 other Boinc projects running on my PC.

It looks like LHC@home will be getting suspended on my PC until we return to something even approaching a sensible deadline for complettion.



Of course if you are using a fairly recent (4.43 or later) version of BOINC, the CPU scheduler will ensure that the deadlines will be met if at all possible, and the project that needs the extra CPU time will not get to download work for a while, so it evens out in the long run.


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