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Message 9993 - Posted: 8 Sep 2005, 14:55:24 UTC

I found this on the Q&A boards, posted by Chrulle a couple of days ago:

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The Sixtrack program will not run forever. It will continue doing runs on and off until the LHC is built (2007). In the meantime we are looking into running other simulations under LHC@home. At the moment we are trying to run Geant4, this is a simulation program that models the detectors in the LHC.

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You can find out more about Geant4 here


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Message 9997 - Posted: 8 Sep 2005, 18:11:22 UTC - in response to Message 9993.  

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The Sixtrack program will not run forever. It will continue doing runs on and off until the LHC is built (2007). In the meantime we are looking into running other simulations under LHC@home. At the moment we are trying to run Geant4, this is a simulation program that models the detectors in the LHC.
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Nice to know, that LHC@home is not ending soon. But why is this info
buried in the Q&A board. This should be on the front page!

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Message 9998 - Posted: 8 Sep 2005, 20:19:55 UTC - in response to Message 9993.  

<blockquote>I found this on the Q&A boards, posted by Chrulle a couple of days ago:

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The Sixtrack program will not run forever. It will continue doing runs on and off until the LHC is built (2007). In the meantime we are looking into running other simulations under LHC@home. At the moment we are trying to run Geant4, this is a simulation program that models the detectors in the LHC.

Chrulle
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You can find out more about Geant4 here

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I saw this on the BOINC Synergy front page before I saw it here. It should be on the front page.

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Message 10000 - Posted: 9 Sep 2005, 3:19:57 UTC

Yea, I really don't think that the front page has an informational purpose anymore either :)
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Message 10010 - Posted: 9 Sep 2005, 15:30:04 UTC

No it should not be on the front page, because it was a specific answer to a specific question.

Just to clarify:

Sixtrack will need to be run for the design phase of the LHC, which is planned to go into operation in 2007. Sixtrack will the move to a support phase for the LHC, where it will run studies while the LHC is in operation.

In the meantime we are looking for more applications to run on LHC@home. The best candidate at the moment is Geant4.



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Message 10012 - Posted: 9 Sep 2005, 15:43:25 UTC

Chrulle,

Thanks for all of the good news. As a physics "wanna-be" this is extrodinarily interesting to me. If I were to do only one project LHC@Home would be it. So, for me this is very good news indeed.
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Message 10035 - Posted: 10 Sep 2005, 13:06:28 UTC

Good to hear LHC will be around for some time yet.........If I am reading this correctly, it means that once the LHC is in operation, sixtrack will be used to analyse the results?
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Message 10037 - Posted: 10 Sep 2005, 14:08:05 UTC
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Sixtrack will not analyse results, a new client will be required for this or for detector simulation work Geant4, (a particle/matter simulator), is a current investigation.

Wave upon wave of demented avengers march cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream.
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Message 10067 - Posted: 11 Sep 2005, 16:13:12 UTC

Well, if they decide to change the machine, sixtrack-Plus will come out ... and who has heard of scientists satisfied with their toys? :)
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Message 10076 - Posted: 11 Sep 2005, 21:49:40 UTC - in response to Message 10067.  

<blockquote>who has heard of scientists satisfied with their toys? :)</blockquote>
Only if they have found the answer to the problem. In which case all of the toys for that problem are turned into scrap.


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Message 10077 - Posted: 12 Sep 2005, 1:28:26 UTC - in response to Message 10076.  

<blockquote>Only if they have found the answer to the problem. In which case all of the toys for that problem are turned into scrap.</blockquote>

most answers create many new (related) questions, some of the toys get reused then ;)
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Message 10084 - Posted: 12 Sep 2005, 10:09:39 UTC

In which case all of the toys for that problem are turned into scrap.

Not really. Usually people are quite inventive when it comes to finding new interesting uses for machines once their original task is done.
If scientific equipment is suddenly scraped it is usually for political reasons. like the american moon program being canceled when there was no russian reply to it.
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Message 10085 - Posted: 12 Sep 2005, 11:07:54 UTC

Klasm is right.
At cern for example we are still using the SPS from the seventies. It is going to be modified to be used as a proton injector for the LHC.

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